"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion of all things related to Dragon Ball video games (console and portable games, arcade versions, etc.) from the entire franchise's history.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Chuquita » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:36 pm

I haven't been following Heroes all that much, but mustached oozaru King Vegeta is absurdly hilarious. X3
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Post by TRL » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:27 pm

DNA wrote:But I do love how his cape also grows somehow. I can swallow the explanation for the armour and the undergarments, but the cape? C'mon...
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:26 pm

Since we got Bebi Janemba last time then I think we likely going to get something random again. Forms 1-3 for Coola would be cool though.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:37 pm

It might not be any what if at all, it might be Baby: Adult Body, it wouldn't surprise me. Secret or not, I'd like to see that, all we saw of him was on the second opening of GT, when he runs away at the end of his arc and a small figure in which him and Goku Super Saiyan 4 battle each other, with Baby charging a red ki blast. I own that figure and like it very much.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by MCDaveG » Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:38 pm

Yeah, Baby is my favorite villain from GT and having his complete mutant form as playable character will be awesome.
I was dissapointed that after seeing him having like 12 forms, his last one was fleeing away and gotten destroyed.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:10 pm

Baby had 8 forms, not 12. Or maybe 9, if you count Janenba Baby.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JeffJarrett » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:21 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Baby had 8 forms, not 12. Or maybe 9, if you count Janenba Baby.
12: Infant form, Baby Rilldo, Baby Trunks, Teenage form, Baby Goten, Baby Gohan, Baby Vegeta, Super Baby Vegeta, Super Baby Vegeta 2, Great Ape Baby, Adult form, Baby Janemba.

or 8: Infant form, Teenage form, Baby Vegeta, Super Baby Vegeta, Super Baby Vegeta 2, Great Ape Baby, Adult form, Baby Janemba.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:23 pm

It would be cool if, for example, he had somehow managed to harness the raw power of the Ozaru form into his original body, meaning, Vegeta's body was only an hindrance at that point. So instead of overpowering, Goku would be surprised by a fully powered Baby in his adult form and a final titanic battle would occur.
JeffJarrett wrote:12: Infant form, Baby Rilldo, Baby Trunks, Teenage form, Baby Goten, Baby Gohan, Baby Vegeta, Super Baby Vegeta, Super Baby Vegeta 2, Great Ape Baby, Adult form, Baby Janemba.
If you're gonna count all those "forms", you can't forget Baby kid from spaceship, Baby doctor from Pital and Baby four random guys. See how ridiculous it sounds?
He had eight forms, and even half of those are just stages of his growth, but I get what you're saying.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:48 am

JeffJarrett wrote:12: Infant form, Baby Rilldo, Baby Trunks, Teenage form, Baby Goten, Baby Gohan, Baby Vegeta, Super Baby Vegeta, Super Baby Vegeta 2, Great Ape Baby, Adult form, Baby Janemba.
I don't count the Trunks, Gohan, etc possessions because, unlike in Vegeta's & Janenba's case, he didn't transform with their bodies, he just possessed them.
JeffJarrett wrote:or 8: Infant form, Teenage form, Baby Vegeta, Super Baby Vegeta, Super Baby Vegeta 2, Great Ape Baby, Adult form, Baby Janemba.
You are right, it's 8. I counted 9 because I accidentally included his incomplete infant form when he was still in that tank of liquid.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:22 pm

They could do Bebi Freeza given that they both share a hatred for Saiyajins. I think it would make a neat duo and would make more sense then Bebi Janemba.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:41 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:They could do Bebi Freeza given that they both share a hatred for Saiyajins. I think it would make a neat duo and would make more sense then Bebi Janemba.
I did make a mention of that on the last page.

TheDevilsCorpse: we had a conversation a long time ago about what models are in the Budokai engine, I just realized that we both forgot to include Kibito. When Kaioshin uses Fusion Kibito's model is there, so there's really no excuse to exclude him.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:16 am

DNA wrote:I just realized that we both forgot to include Kibito.
That's because no body cares about him. =P

Anyway, from the Twitter:
皆様あけましておめでとうございます!2013年!今年もDBH、ド派手にいくぜ!!1月にはGM6弾、2月には3DS、3月には劇場版とGM7弾!春からはエリア代表ヒーロー決定戦!GM8弾や9弾、10弾だって待ち構えてる!DBHは終わりませんよ!皆、覚悟はいいか!!今年もよろしくねー!
Happy New Year. Blah, blah. Heroes isn't over, awaiting even GM8, 9 and 10. Blah, blah.

So with a new set roughly every 2 months or so, we know we have at least enough content to last till at least the end of this year as well. Will it wrap up then, or will they roll over into 2014 too? :D
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:49 am

Depends on how fast they move things. I hope they cover the remaining movies at least, it would be a shame if they didn't.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JeffJarrett » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:00 am

I can't find the GM4 animated trailer (Tullece/Oozaru Gohan x Baby Vegeta/Super Oozaru Goku). The link TheDevilsCorpse provided here doesn't work anymore. Does anyone have it?

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by bleed0range » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:31 am

Is there a guide on Kanzenshuu or somewhere that fully explains DB Heroes? I'm not completely ignorant... I know that it's an arcade game involving cards you use and that they must obviously have expansions fairly often with new characters. But I would like to know stuff like, what expansions there are and when they came out. I'd like to see videos/pictures of all the "fantasy" characters/cards like SSJ3 Trunks or whatever. I've seen some random stuff on YT but it's all very confusing about exactly what is going on. Do they make new little animations for every new set of cards? What are those animations, commercials? Is there some kind of storyline? Are those kids supposed to have been sucked into the world of dragon ball through the arcade machine (kind of like that Nintendo cartoon that ran during the 1980s/early 90s, to which I forget the name)? I really wish Kanzenshuu had a comprehensive guide on this as it's probably the most currently leading confusing thing dragon ball related on the net (the videos being used to create fake series like hoshi)... I'm so confused. Someone help!

It's a video game so I don't take it too seriously, but I kind of hate how they're just making up a form for pretty much any character now. Oh SSJ3 Gogeta, sure... ssj4 gotenks why not? It just gets a bit silly and goes a bit too far, but at least they're not trying to make it canonical.

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:35 pm

Nah, we don't have a complete guide to it just yet. It's definitely something we'll include when the "Video Game Guide" gets ported from Kanzentai and receives its proper VegettoEX upgrade :).

I suppose that can be one of my 2013 resolutions...
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Ryuman » Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:55 pm

bleed0range wrote:I really wish Kanzenshuu had a comprehensive guide on this as it's probably the most currently leading confusing thing dragon ball related on the net (the videos being used to create fake series like hoshi).
Actually, DBH is pretty straight forward. Once you read up about I think you'll be a little underwhelmed since it's just a card game with some what-ifs. I'd say Dragon Ball Online is much more of an enigma due to it being a bigger game and a Korean product.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:55 pm

GM6 commercials have been airing on TV and making their way to youtube. They're the short versions and don't show very much off, but we've got a few characters out of it.

Confirmed new characters to be introduced with the set so far: Gohan (Future), SS Gohan (Future), Trunks (Future), SS Trunks (Future), Kyui, Toma, Selypa, Totepo, Panbukin, Oozaru King Vegeta, Vegeta (Childhood), Nappa (Hair)?

...Okay, that last one is technically a joke. The kid Vegeta card has a team attack that looks to feature himself with his father and a character that looks like Nappa with hair from the TV special. Obviously though, I can't confirm if that is who it is (looks to have a mustache, so it could be Paragus), and even if it is, I don't know what they are using as his card name. If it is Nappa though, they are making a distinction between the haired version and the series version, as they never show alternate costumes on those little icons.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Saiga » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:09 am

I guess if Nappa is given a separate distinction for his TV Special version they'd call it Nappa: Young or something (Prime?). Nappa: Hair would officially be the best character distinction ever though.
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