"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Araki]

I really don't understand how people can get so upset over the Potara rule, when it's nothing more than Toriyama finally giving an explanation to something he simply brushed off in the past. Goes to show how obnoxious this fanbase became.

Yup, to be honest I didn't even know he did that till pointed out..

Seriously, did you ever read the original manga?

[Ki Breaker]

Yup, to be honest I didn't even know he did that till pointed out..

Seriously, did you ever read the original manga?

Yes I did, it's not like I missed every single one of the similarities but it's not really a very big issue either..

[Duo]

It's such a lazy criticism.

"I recognize a thing therefore this artist is bad!"

Alright, congrats. You recognized something. Is the panel itself bad? Does the homage detract from the story? What about the overall context? Why is this actually a problem?

[mfwlegend3]

[pacz360]

How reliable is that quote exactly?

[OLKv3]

Kanzenshuu forums are mostly /a/ with rules lol.

[emperior]

Kanzenshuu forums are mostly /a/ with rules lol.

What's this /a/ you keep talking about?

[Bullza]

How reliable is that quote exactly?

Well Beerus is mentioned but that's all I know.

[OLKv3]

Something similar was said in the anime too, when they called his power unfathomable. Then Toei's producer said they're cheat characters. Don't know why fans deny this, the fusions surpassed the GoD

Kanzenshuu forums are mostly /a/ with rules lol.

What's this /a/ you keep talking about?

Hell

[pacz360]

Kanzenshuu forums are mostly /a/ with rules lol.

What's this /a/ you keep talking about?

As someone who's familiar with it... Hell aka 4Chan.

[Ki Breaker]

Kanzenshuu forums are mostly /a/ with rules lol.

What's this /a/ you keep talking about?

Hell

How so?

[Basako]

Wooo, this is a big thing, getting close to Beerus now.

I can buy it. Goku SSG fought well, Vegetto SSB is much more powerful.

[Grimlock]

But how does Kaioshin of East know the full extent of Beerus' power?

[Ki Breaker]

But how does Kaioshin of East know the full extent of Beerus' power?

He probably has a rough idea, old kai must have told him

[The gr]

It was obvious,of course vegito Will appear. I'm siding with Draconic, toyoraro is rushing This,the art is as bad as the previous chapter, and he should stop doing homages and stuff,is annoying and Make his manga uncreative, goku vs Frost, goku vs botamo, kibito vs zamas, black vs trunks,hit vs Goku we're arguably the best fight because they we're creative and had 0 homages

[Draconic]

We had vague statements in the anime about this, but to have a somewhat definitive answer/direct comparison to Vegetto's power against Beerus' is great. Hope it's accurate.

[sintzu]

How reliable is that quote exactly?

Goku as a SsjG made Beerus use 70% of his power.

Both Goku and Vegeta trained with Whis which made them stronger and they gained an even stronger form.

They both then trained some more before Champa's tournament then Vegeta trained even more before fighting Black again.

Fusing not only combines those 2 powers but also adds to it so I don't know how Vegetto couldn't be stronger. I doubt he's so stronger that he could sleep during a fight but he'd give him a lot of trouble if they fought.

[The gr]

We had vague statements in the anime about this, but to have a somewhat definitive answer/direct comparison to Vegetto's power against Beerus' is great. Hope it's accurate.

I sure toyotaro will troll us and say vegito have surpassed a surpressed Beerus , didn't a interview Said toriyama had no plan of goku and Vegeta of surpassing Beerus

Wtf is going with the artstyle,it still looks stiff like Last month,45 pages increase was not a good idea

[Zephyr]

I don't think Merged Zamasu defusing would be a plothole.

Only Kaiōshin are allowed to time travel

That makes it sound not like you have to be a Kaioshin in order to be capable of operating the time ring, but rather that you have to be a Kaioshin in order to be allowed to operate the time ring without it being considered a crime. This means that Black's use of the time ring does not necessarily entail that he is a Kaioshin.

And wearing the Potara alone clearly doesn't make one a Kaioshin; the idea that it does isn't explicitly stated (so we need not assume that), and Kibito's wearing of them while obviously not being a Kaioshin would clearly contradict that idea. The fact that Gowasu gave Zamasu the Potara certainly implies that it is necessary for being a Kaioshin, but not that it alone is sufficient.

[alakazam^]

How reliable is that quote exactly?

If those panels are real then it's reliable. Although Kaioushin isn't that specific "Maybe it [Veget's power] has already.... Beers-sama". It's pretty much implied the same, though.