"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by OLKv3 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:13 am

mfwlegend3 wrote:wew, these pages.

Anyways, have full raws released? I fell asleep. I've seen some new small pages have been leaked.
What new pages were leaked? Also this thread is pretty tame compared to the shitstorm we had last month. Next month will be insane if Zamasu actually defuses.

Also, they still have one senzu left, correct? Who's going to use it?

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:18 am

OLKv3 wrote:What new pages were leaked?
OLKv3 wrote:Anyways, have full raws released? I fell asleep.
Any bits of the manga chapter I've seen came from this lovely gentleman.
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Post by mfwlegend3 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:26 am

OLKv3 wrote:Also, they still have one senzu left, correct? Who's going to use it?
Vegetto uses it, as seen here.

https://twitter.com/white4517/status/85 ... 00/photo/1

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Post by OLKv3 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:28 am

mfwlegend3 wrote:
OLKv3 wrote:Also, they still have one senzu left, correct? Who's going to use it?
Vegetto uses it, as seen here.

https://twitter.com/white4517/status/85 ... 00/photo/1
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Post by Basako » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:49 am

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In fact, Gowasu says that only the Kaioshins are allowed to wear the ring of time. But there is no restriction that impels anyone else to use.This is a matter of tradition / rules imposed by the gods themselves
The earring does not give kaioshin to anyone. In between, the earring of Kaioshins has a specific color.
Gowasu gave Zamasu the position of Kaioshin temporarily, only for him to go to the planet Babari a thousand years later.
Because he named Zamasu Kaioshin, he gave his earring that has a characteristic color of the Kaioshins.

But that's not what makes him a Kaioshin
And again, Gowasu straight up said that Trunks can't used a Time Ring (which I believe it was because they wanted Trunks to leave), nothing about it being a rule since they've already broke one rule by letting Goku and Vegeta fuse despite being mortals.
Where does he say that Trunks can't use a time ring, because I can't find it. When Shin and Gowasu saved Trunks and Mai he didn't say such a thing.

The conversation before going to Babari, looks more like a matter of allowance than real possibility, in respect of the rules. Otherwise Black wouldn't have been able to use it, because Gowasu clearly stated the temporary condition of the other time. Zamasu never became a full time kaioshin, this temporary time at most, and it was probably just a formality.
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HeroR wrote:In this very chapter, Gowasu said that Trunks can't used a Time Ring because he isn't a Supreme Kai
Where does he say this?
Yeah, I have the same question.
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Post by ChaosLordBrandon » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:06 am

OLKv3 wrote:
mfwlegend3 wrote:wew, these pages.

Anyways, have full raws released? I fell asleep. I've seen some new small pages have been leaked.
What new pages were leaked? Also this thread is pretty tame compared to the shitstorm we had last month. Next month will be insane if Zamasu actually defuses.

Also, they still have one senzu left, correct? Who's going to use it?
It's very tame because because there was no big difference than from the anime and nothing to really talk about. and this thread reaction is pretty much the community reaction in general, very calm and people saying that chapter was okay but they hoped to see Gogeta and see if the retcon was still there from what I saw.

The thing just I see from people talking is just that female saiyan image and if that is female Broly or not. I have not seen a big fuss over this chapter at all.

the first chapters of this arc was very tame to, I remember people saying how bad ass that one panel was when Goku Black smiled and every said how good the chapters were and I agreed with that, and I don't like manga that much and I say that the first chapters was very okay and had nothing really to complain about all. but that's just my thoughts and i'm the first to criticize the manga for something and I don't see a thing to complain about this chapter at all really.

This chapter was soild to me.

And I don't know if new pages leaked, pretty much all the important ones was released around the time the first leaks dropped over 10 hours ago.

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Post by Basako » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:18 am

ChaosLordBrandon wrote: It's very tame because because there was no big difference than from the anime and nothing to really talk about. and this thread reaction is pretty much the community reaction in general, very calm and people saying that chapter was okay but they hoped to see Gogeta and see if the retcon was still there from what I saw.

The thing just I see from people talking is just that female saiyan image and if that is female Broly or not. I have not seen a big fuss over this chapter at all.

the first chapters of this arc was very tame to, I remember people saying how bad ass that one panel was when Goku Black smiled and every said how good the chapters were and I agreed with that, and I don't like manga that much and I say that the first chapters was very okay and had nothing really to complain about all. but that's just my thoughts and i'm the first to criticize the manga for something and I don't see a thing to complain about this chapter at all really.

This chapter was soild to me.

And I don't know if new pages leaked, pretty much all the important ones was released around the time the first leaks dropped over 10 hours ago.
There's nothing wrong with the chapter. We have a very good looking Vegetto and the few we've got about how he crushes MZ looks cool, like the part where he cuts his hands. I have no objection if MZ defuses too, if it's explained that it is because he wasn't really a kaioshin when they fused. And he wasn't, otherwise he would be linked to a hakaishin, and they said all gods were dead in that timeline.
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Post by ChaosLordBrandon » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:29 am

Basako wrote:
ChaosLordBrandon wrote: It's very tame because because there was no big difference than from the anime and nothing to really talk about. and this thread reaction is pretty much the community reaction in general, very calm and people saying that chapter was okay but they hoped to see Gogeta and see if the retcon was still there from what I saw.

The thing just I see from people talking is just that female saiyan image and if that is female Broly or not. I have not seen a big fuss over this chapter at all.

the first chapters of this arc was very tame to, I remember people saying how bad ass that one panel was when Goku Black smiled and every said how good the chapters were and I agreed with that, and I don't like manga that much and I say that the first chapters was very okay and had nothing really to complain about all. but that's just my thoughts and i'm the first to criticize the manga for something and I don't see a thing to complain about this chapter at all really.

This chapter was soild to me.

And I don't know if new pages leaked, pretty much all the important ones was released around the time the first leaks dropped over 10 hours ago.
There's nothing wrong with the chapter. We have a very good looking Vegetto and the few we've got about how he crushes MZ looks cool, like the part where he cuts his hands. I have no objection if MZ defuses too, if it's explained that it is because he wasn't really a kaioshin when they fused. And he wasn't, otherwise he would be linked to a hakaishin, and they said all gods were dead in that timeline.
that's what I said, that the chapter soild and there was pretty much not a single thing to make a big deal about or wrong with it.

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Post by Basako » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:45 am

ChaosLordBrandon wrote: that's what I said, that the chapter soild and there was pretty much not a single thing to make a big deal about or wrong with it.
Yeah, I'm agreeing. :thumbup:

If I don't like something, I think the anime did something better or I see a plothole, I'll say it, I always do. But, for now, the art looks cool, the translations show some good writing, like the stuff Trunks say about his mother. Merged Zamasu's great power is shown first and then Vegetto's even greater. We still need the full thing and the arc is not finished, one more has to do it. I thought it could be done in this one, but now that I see it, it's fine there is more. I don't want him to rush things, if two chapters make it better, then be it.
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Post by HeroR » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:58 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Cause plot convenience? You can "but why" everything to death, but it's just nitpicking. If we're going that far, we may as well ask "Why didn't Zamasu just wish for the erasure of all humans?" Roundabout things happen all the time to serve the plot, especially in Dragon Ball. Once again, it's nothing new.
This isn't a nitpick. Toyo clearly said in this chapter that only Supreme Kais can used the Time Rings, which is why Trunks couldn't. Black and Future Zamasu can, meaning that they are seen as Supreme Kais. So their fusing not being forever doesn't make sense unless the fusion works under different rules. This isn't like "why didn't Zamasu just wish for the erasure of all humans?" at all since we're talking about rules not character's motives.
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You say that, and then make a typical Youtube comment.


When did I even imply I was stating my opinion as fact? Oh right. I didn't. Does everyone have to explicitly state "in my opinion" every time they post a comment to not get criticized like this??
And what Youtube comment did I made? That you're stating your opinion as fact, which you kind of did. And yes, you should state when something is your opinion, especially in a matter of quality, because this is the internet and all I can see is your text.
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Where does he say that Trunks can't use a time ring, because I can't find it. When Shin and Gowasu saved Trunks and Mai he didn't say such a thing.

The conversation before going to Babari, looks more like a matter of allowance than real possibility, in respect of the rules. Otherwise Black wouldn't have been able to use it, because Gowasu clearly stated the temporary condition of the other time. Zamasu never became a full time kaioshin, this temporary time at most, and it was probably just a formality.
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HeroR wrote:In this very chapter, Gowasu said that Trunks can't used a Time Ring because he isn't a Supreme Kai
Where does he say this?
Yeah, I have the same question.
It was in this chapter from the text I have seen. Gowasu said that someone like Trunks couldn't used the Time Ring because he isn't a Supreme Kai. Now, I could have misread it, but that what the conversation went. I wasn't talking about the Babari chapter.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Basako » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:11 am

HeroR wrote:
It was in this chapter from the text I have seen. Gowasu said that someone like Trunks couldn't used the Time Ring because he isn't a Supreme Kai. Now, I could have misread it, but that what the conversation went. I wasn't talking about the Babari chapter.
Ok, we'll see. I would be surprised because I don't see why Trunks would want to use the time ring in this chapter. If anything, he says he wants to fight and Vegeta doesn't let him.
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Post by Kogu 87 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:47 am

Can't wait to read this new chapter. The art looks fantastic as usual ! (loving the cell homage).

I must say, some of you fans have got it good.
For Dragon Ball Super to bother you as much as it does. From the level of hatred and complaining seen on these forums one would think that this is the only major issue you've got in your real lives. If so, then life is truly good !!
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Post by mfwlegend3 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:55 am

Missed opportunity to put Vegetto in a new outfit based on their Whis ones. What bothers me more is that Vegetto should technically still have a new outfit since Vegeta was wearing his armor. Unless they're going with the, "Vegetto's clothes are his default clothes no matter what the participants of the fusion wear", thing.

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Post by Black Hawk » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:15 am

mfwlegend3 wrote:Missed opportunity to put Vegetto in a new outfit based on their Whis ones. What bothers me more is that Vegetto should technically still have a new outfit since Vegeta was wearing his armor. Unless they're going with the, "Vegetto's clothes are his default clothes no matter what the participants of the fusion wear", thing.
I may be alone in this, but I'm personally glad that Vegetto maintains his Boo Arc physical appearance, as it never made any sense to me that Vegeta, following the Boo Arc, went back to dressing as he had during the Cell Arc. In the 2008 Jump Special, he briefly explained that the armor qualified as formal Saiyajin attire befitting a social gathering, which I suppose makes sense, since the Jump Special and Battle of Gods take place at parties, but, following the tournament between Universes Six and Seven, it doesn't really make sense for Vegeta to continue dressing "formally". Of course, the same could be said for Gokū's dōgi having the "Kame" symbol and "Go" symbol again in the 2008 Jump Special and Battle of Gods, respectively, for seemingly no reason.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:55 am

Kogu 87 wrote:Can't wait to read this new chapter. The art looks fantastic as usual ! (loving the cell homage).

I must say, some of you fans have got it good.
For Dragon Ball Super to bother you as much as it does. From the level of hatred and complaining seen on these forums one would think that this is the only major issue you've got in your real lives. If so, then life is truly good !!
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:55 am

Black Hawk wrote:
mfwlegend3 wrote:Missed opportunity to put Vegetto in a new outfit based on their Whis ones. What bothers me more is that Vegetto should technically still have a new outfit since Vegeta was wearing his armor. Unless they're going with the, "Vegetto's clothes are his default clothes no matter what the participants of the fusion wear", thing.
I may be alone in this, but I'm personally glad that Vegetto maintains his Boo Arc physical appearance, as it never made any sense to me that Vegeta, following the Boo Arc, went back to dressing as he had during the Cell Arc. In the 2008 Jump Special, he briefly explained that the armor qualified as formal Saiyajin attire befitting a social gathering, which I suppose makes sense, since the Jump Special and Battle of Gods take place at parties, but, following the tournament between Universes Six and Seven, it doesn't really make sense for Vegeta to continue dressing "formally". Of course, the same could be said for Gokū's dōgi having the "Kame" symbol and "Go" symbol again in the 2008 Jump Special and Battle of Gods, respectively, for seemingly no reason.
Honestly the most likely out of universe reason is simply the outfit is Vegeta's most well known and the one the animators have been used to the longest so it was kept for the sake of being able to draw frames/chapters quicker and save time in production.
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Post by Legion » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:29 am

Anyway, since casual merged Zamasu just stomps Goku and Vegeta with two punch (and Vegeth is even more stronger), at least we know that in the manga the fusions are MORE stronger than Goku/Vegeta. Like in DBZ i guess.

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Post by mfwlegend3 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:37 am

Full korean raws are out and I still hold my judgement, it's pretty shit, but cool art.

Merged Zamasu is such a damn pushover that it hurts to watch. Toyo did terribly with his portrayal of "menacing" villains.

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Post by Zamasu55 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:59 am

Shin said SsjB Vegito might be stronger than Beerus.
Interesting. Very interesting.

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Post by Basako » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:03 am

mfwlegend3 wrote:Full korean raws are out and I still hold my judgement, it's pretty shit, but cool art.

Merged Zamasu is such a damn pushover that it hurts to watch. Toyo did terribly with his portrayal of "menacing" villains.
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