Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:29 pm

qjz123 wrote:You think this looks pretty sharp? The trailer for the level sets looks nothing like the actual level sets on blu ray.
Yeah, compared to something like the orange bricks. The only difference is the compression, which is a given. That's not "nothing like" the actual footage. There's barely any macroblocking in this new trailer (the original, before it was taken down, as the screenshots show). I don't see why you keep saying "this one trailer was poorly encoded, so this one is too", even though it's clearly of higher quality.
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Post by KingofWisdom » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:41 pm

qjz123 wrote:You think this looks pretty sharp? The trailer for the level sets looks nothing like the actual level sets on blu ray.
Even the best encoding in the world can't help the fact that that trailer has around 1/10th of the bitrate of the actual blu ray.
One thing's for sure, it's clear that the colors aren't oversaturated.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:06 pm

How would people feel about full screen version?

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Post by KingofWisdom » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:12 pm

I find it marginally less crappy.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by qjz123 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:12 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote:How would people feel about full screen version?
Wow that actually looks a lot better than I expected.
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:16 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote:How would people feel about full screen version?
No thank you.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:29 pm

Ok. After taking a look at screenshots a second time, I've changed my opinion. That isn't to say that the users here influenced me, but the fact that the screenshots presented right in the front of me. The screenshots looks absolutely disgusting. I can't believe I have overlooked the crushed blacks. And they made DBZ looked like it hadn't been put on the films. I gave the Level sets a benefit of doubt for having crushed blacks simply because it was the best looking release by FUNimation. It is, in my eyes, better than Dragon Boxes by far. Obviously it's because of the sets being on Blu-ray, which clearly gives its advantage, but still. But no, FUNimation just decided that it's better to crop and DNR the Level set footage to the maximum. Everything looks plastic now. Everyone looks like Buu now.

First they cancelled Ultimate Uncut Edition, now the Level sets. Both were excellent releases by FUNimation. All they had to do was to bundle the episodes into box set and put them on the market. Or maybe they should have been patient and wait for the right time to release the Level sets. But they couldn't wait and start thinking about the money already. It's sad, really. They've already oversaturated the market. They just go even further beyond.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by ShadowDude112 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:42 pm

So, I can tell these sets look like garbage, but could someone describe to me where I should be looking for these "crushed blacks" in the screenshots? Not a big video tech guy so I don't know where to see them.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by qjz123 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:43 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:So, I can tell these sets look like garbage, but could someone describe to me where I should be looking for these "crushed blacks" in the screenshots? Not a big video tech guy so I don't know where to see them.
Here
Dragon ball z season 1 trailer
All of the detail in the dark areas of the image have been removed.
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Post by KingofWisdom » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:44 pm

It seems the good releases always either come out immediately after a previous release, or in the middle of a shitstorm.
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Post by qjz123 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:47 pm

KingofWisdom wrote:It seems the good releases always either come out immediately after a previous release, or in the middle of a shitstorm.
If anything this release will hopefully make Funimation enough money to complete the level sets similar to how the orange bricks made Funimation enough money to go out and license the dragon boxes.
Kendamu wrote:
AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Post by KingofWisdom » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:55 pm

The first Level set came out a month after the final Dragon Box. Yikes! They don't even give us time to miss the series.
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They wanna turn up hours late and steal the show from the pros who had to die for the name." - Yamcha (DBWTF: Z-Rap 3)

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by qjz123 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:02 am

KingofWisdom wrote:The first Level set came out a month after the final Dragon Box. Yikes! They don't even give us time to miss the series.
But it was announced around five months prior to its release date so they did give us time to build up anticipation for the release.
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Post by KingofWisdom » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:06 am

Doesn't make it any easier on the wallet. :P
It's no wonder the Level sets failed.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Roland_ELoG » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:54 am

qjz123 wrote:
KingofWisdom wrote:It seems the good releases always either come out immediately after a previous release, or in the middle of a shitstorm.
If anything this release will hopefully make Funimation enough money to complete the level sets similar to how the orange bricks made Funimation enough money to go out and license the dragon boxes.

I don't think there's a way that'll happen. The Level sets were a step up from the Orange Bricks and the Dragon Boxes, since they were on Blu-ray and were fully remastered. But they won't release the Blu-ray season sets and THEN release them in smaller, different looking chunks. That would confuse the consumer even more than they already were/are.
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Post by qjz123 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:15 am

Roland_ELoG wrote: I don't think there's a way that'll happen. The Level sets were a step up from the Orange Bricks and the Dragon Boxes, since they were on Blu-ray and were fully remastered. But they won't release the Blu-ray season sets and THEN release them in smaller, different looking chunks. That would confuse the consumer even more than they already were/are.
If they did continue the level sets I would assume that they would be sold in full levels consisting of 34 episodes and they would be targeted at a different audience than this blu ray release, this blu ray release is for the people who bought and liked the orange bricks. Funimation followed one dvd release (orange bricks) with another dvd release (dragon boxes). I think Funimation milking the series one last time and re releasing the level sets sometime in 2016 when these blu rays are done is very possible.
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:16 am

qjz123 wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:So, I can tell these sets look like garbage, but could someone describe to me where I should be looking for these "crushed blacks" in the screenshots? Not a big video tech guy so I don't know where to see them.
Here
Dragon ball z season 1 trailer
All of the detail in the dark areas of the image have been removed.
Why are those in spoiler tabs? Spoiler alert - these look like shit.

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Post by qjz123 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:19 am

Tanooki Kuribo wrote: Why are those in spoiler tabs? Spoiler alert - these look like shit.
I put them in spoiler tabs so people aren't bombarded with huge images.
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Post by MarcFBR » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:38 am

qjz123 wrote:
Tanooki Kuribo wrote: Why are those in spoiler tabs? Spoiler alert - these look like shit.
I put them in spoiler tabs so people aren't bombarded with huge images.
Just link to them. There is no reason to embed them in the first place.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by ect5150 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:21 am

eledoremassis02 wrote:How would people feel about full screen version?
I would prefer Steve's untouched transfer in widescreen over a fullscreen version like that - assuming those were the choices. Interesting mock up though.
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If you guys post links to certain cites (like imgur), they will auto generate thumbnails you can embed and click to link out to the full version. I always thought this was the best way to handle images as to not waste bandwidth. I think Photobocket used to have a nice setup, but they changed over the years.
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