The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:23 am

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Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) What if Super Perfect Cell wasn't entirely destroyed by the spirit of Goku, Vegeta, and Teen Gohan during the conclusion of the Cell Games and had regenerated from the subcellular-level before using Instant Transmission to appear before Majin Vegeta? When the Evil Saiyan Prince was just about to provoke Goku by killing people at the World Tournament?
Vegeta would be overwhelmed by Cell's power and he would be forced to team up with Goku to win, this will probably humiliate him and make him give up on fighting Goku.
1) Then what if during the fight, Legendary Super Saiyan Broly from Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming came crashing down to join in? :P
Things would become even more chaotic, Goku and Vegeta would have to split up and deal with Cell and Broly individually. Goku, being stronger than Vegeta would be able to hold Cell off while Vegeta deals with Broly. Broly would be weaker than Vegeta, I have him at 9 billion compared to Majin Vegeta's 10 billion, so Vegeta would beat him and then team up with Goku to beat Cell. However Vegeta may get frustrated and do something stupid and get himself injured/killed.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:28 am

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TheUltimateNinja wrote: Vegeta would be overwhelmed by Cell's power and he would be forced to team up with Goku to win, this will probably humiliate him and make him give up on fighting Goku.
1) Then what if during the fight, Legendary Super Saiyan Broly from Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming came crashing down to join in? :P
Things would become even more chaotic, Goku and Vegeta would have to split up and deal with Cell and Broly individually. Goku, being stronger than Vegeta would be able to hold Cell off while Vegeta deals with Broly. Broly would be weaker than Vegeta, I have him at 9 billion compared to Majin Vegeta's 10 billion, so Vegeta would beat him and then team up with Goku to beat Cell. However Vegeta may get frustrated and do something stupid and get himself injured/killed.
1) Knowing Vegeta, he will find a way to ensure his own destruction...

2) What if Majin Vegeta had decided to betray Goku when Super Perfect Cell was about to lose?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:31 am

Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) Knowing Vegeta, he will find a way to ensure his own destruction...

2) What if Majin Vegeta had decided to betray Goku when Super Perfect Cell was about to lose?
Cell would regenerate and without Goku's help, Vegeta would get killed. Then Cell would try to destroy the planet, but the Z fighters would hold him off for a little while until Goku wakes up, then Goku would use Super Saiyan 3 and easily beat Cell.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:37 am

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Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) Knowing Vegeta, he will find a way to ensure his own destruction...

2) What if Majin Vegeta had decided to betray Goku when Super Perfect Cell was about to lose?
Cell would regenerate and without Goku's help, Vegeta would get killed. Then Cell would try to destroy the planet, but the Z fighters would hold him off for a little while until Goku wakes up, then Goku would use Super Saiyan 3 and easily beat Cell.
1) How would this scenario affect the Majin Buu Saga?

2) What if when Super Vegito had defused, he, Goku, and Vegeta were split apart?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:42 am

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) Knowing Vegeta, he will find a way to ensure his own destruction...

2) What if Majin Vegeta had decided to betray Goku when Super Perfect Cell was about to lose?
Cell would regenerate and without Goku's help, Vegeta would get killed. Then Cell would try to destroy the planet, but the Z fighters would hold him off for a little while until Goku wakes up, then Goku would use Super Saiyan 3 and easily beat Cell.
1) How would this scenario affect the Majin Buu Saga?

2) What if when Super Vegito had defused, he, Goku, and Vegeta were split apart?
1) With Vegeta dead, Babidi would be unable to revive Buu. Goku and co. would head back to his ship and destroy him along with Buu's capsule, Dabura would try to intervene but Goku would defeat him easily. However, due to using Super Saiyan 3 and wasting so much enegry, Goku would have already used up his time on earth and would have to go back to the afterlife without teaching the kids fusion.

2) Vegetto would lose a lot of power from being split apart, but once they remove the people Buu absorbed and turn him into Kid Buu he would team up with Goku to fight Buu and they would be able to defeat him without having to resort to the Spirit Bomb.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:47 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
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TheUltimateNinja wrote: Cell would regenerate and without Goku's help, Vegeta would get killed. Then Cell would try to destroy the planet, but the Z fighters would hold him off for a little while until Goku wakes up, then Goku would use Super Saiyan 3 and easily beat Cell.
1) How would this scenario affect the Majin Buu Saga?

2) What if when Super Vegito had defused, he, Goku, and Vegeta were split apart?
1) With Vegeta dead, Babidi would be unable to revive Buu. Goku and co. would head back to his ship and destroy him along with Buu's capsule, Dabura would try to intervene but Goku would defeat him easily. However, due to using Super Saiyan 3 and wasting so much enegry, Goku would have already used up his time on earth and would have to go back to the afterlife without teaching the kids fusion.

2) Vegetto would lose a lot of power from being split apart, but once they remove the people Buu absorbed and turn him into Kid Buu he would team up with Goku to fight Buu and they would be able to defeat him without having to resort to the Spirit Bomb.
1) What if in Otherworld, Vegeta had to fight Super Perfect Cell again?

2) What if Goku, Vegeta, and Vegito had evenly been given the latter's original power?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:49 am

Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) What if in Otherworld, Vegeta had to fight Super Perfect Cell again?

2) What if Goku, Vegeta, and Vegito had evenly been given the latter's original power?
1) He would repeatedly get his ass kicked due to being weaker than Cell. Cell would torment him constantly.

2) Then Buu would be no issue at all, any one of them could easily beat Buu would any difficulties.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:55 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) What if in Otherworld, Vegeta had to fight Super Perfect Cell again?

2) What if Goku, Vegeta, and Vegito had evenly been given the latter's original power?
1) He would repeatedly get his ass kicked due to being weaker than Cell. Cell would torment him constantly.

2) Then Buu would be no issue at all, any one of them could easily beat Buu would any difficulties.
1) Until Goku shows up?

2) Would Vegito help mend the relationships of the cast or make things worse later on?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:28 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) What if in Otherworld, Vegeta had to fight Super Perfect Cell again?

2) What if Goku, Vegeta, and Vegito had evenly been given the latter's original power?
1) He would repeatedly get his ass kicked due to being weaker than Cell. Cell would torment him constantly.

2) Then Buu would be no issue at all, any one of them could easily beat Buu would any difficulties.
1) Until Goku shows up?

2) Would Vegito help mend the relationships of the cast or make things worse later on?
1) Goku has better things to do with his time.

2) He'd probably be a loner, most likely wouldn't interact with the others much.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Smilodon » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:26 am

1) What if Dr Gero make an android with Zen'o + Daishinkan + Vados + Whis + Beerus + Champa + Hitto + Goku + Vegeta + Freeza cells? Would it be stronger than Zen'o itself? Would it be multiverse burster?

2) What if Yamcha and Vados get marryed? Would Yamcha go to U6? Vados lose her place as U6 attendant? How everybody else would react?

3) What if Majin Boo and Dabura worked together against Z fighters?

4) What would happened if Freeza and King Cold fused(dance) when they came to earth?

5) What if future Goku never get the heart virus?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:36 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: 1) He would repeatedly get his ass kicked due to being weaker than Cell. Cell would torment him constantly.

2) Then Buu would be no issue at all, any one of them could easily beat Buu would any difficulties.
1) Until Goku shows up?

2) Would Vegito help mend the relationships of the cast or make things worse later on?
1) Goku has better things to do with his time.

2) He'd probably be a loner, most likely wouldn't interact with the others much.
1) What if upon obtaining his initial Perfect Form, but before fighting Super Vegeta, Cell had created a hybrid offspring made both of Future Gohan's Saiyan DNA and Future Cooler's Frost Demon DNA?

2) What if Super Perfect Cell had done this before Vegeta attacked him?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:55 am

Smilodon wrote:1) What if Dr Gero make an android with Zen'o + Daishinkan + Vados + Whis + Beerus + Champa + Hitto + Goku + Vegeta + Freeza cells? Would it be stronger than Zen'o itself? Would it be multiverse burster?

2) What if Yamcha and Vados get marryed? Would Yamcha go to U6? Vados lose her place as U6 attendant? How everybody else would react?

3) What if Majin Boo and Dabura worked together against Z fighters?

4) What would happened if Freeza and King Cold fused(dance) when they came to earth?

5) What if future Goku never get the heart virus?
1) Good, God. Something even more overpowered than Zeno. Well, all of existence is finished.

2) Vegeta would have been really, really jealous. He would have been traveling between Universe 6 and Universe 7 very frequently while coaching the Universe 6 Team. Beerus would be laughing his butt off, Whis would have been trying to get along with his new brother, and both Champa and Puar would have become as close as friends could get.

3) Only Super Saiyan 3 Goku would be able to stop their combined might.

4) If they play around like they usually do, then SSJ Goku and SSJ Future Trunks will kill them.

5) Then, Future Android 17 and Future Android 18 would have been beaten much sooner.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:10 am

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) Until Goku shows up?

2) Would Vegito help mend the relationships of the cast or make things worse later on?
1) Goku has better things to do with his time.

2) He'd probably be a loner, most likely wouldn't interact with the others much.
1) What if upon obtaining his initial Perfect Form, but before fighting Super Vegeta, Cell had created a hybrid offspring made both of Future Gohan's Saiyan DNA and Future Cooler's Frost Demon DNA?

2) What if Super Perfect Cell had done this before Vegeta attacked him?
1) Not much would change, Gohan would go SSJ2 and kill both of them at the Cell Games.

2) That depends. If Gohan doesn't take Cell's blast for Vegeta and lets him die, then Gohan would be able to win as he still has both arms available. He would instantly kill Cell's hybrid Jr. and the defeat Cell. However if Gohan decides to sacrifice his arm for Vegeta, he won't have the strength to win against the two.
Smilodon wrote:1) What if Dr Gero make an android with Zen'o + Daishinkan + Vados + Whis + Beerus + Champa + Hitto + Goku + Vegeta + Freeza cells? Would it be stronger than Zen'o itself? Would it be multiverse burster?

2) What if Yamcha and Vados get marryed? Would Yamcha go to U6? Vados lose her place as U6 attendant? How everybody else would react?

3) What if Majin Boo and Dabura worked together against Z fighters?

4) What would happened if Freeza and King Cold fused(dance) when they came to earth?

5) What if future Goku never get the heart virus?
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1) Zeno easily solos. It would be multiversal level, though.

2) Everyone would be shocked, Yamcha and Vados' child would be pretty tough.

3) SSJ3 Goku would kill them both.

4) Goku arrives and Trunks performs the dance with him, then Trunku easily beats Friezold.

5) Future Androids would lose, Trunks has no reason to come back to the past.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:25 pm

What if Black had his potential unlocked by Guru?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:17 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:What if Black had his potential unlocked by Guru?
1) Impossible scenario, but if it did happen, Goku Black would be able to defeat Beerus.

2) What if before killing the Earthlings of the Future Earth, Goku Black had married Future Bulma?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:17 am

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:What if Black had his potential unlocked by Guru?
What if before killing the Earthlings of the Future Earth, Goku Black had married Future Bulma?
Bulma would never agree to such a thing.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:36 am

What if monaka actually turned out to be monstrously powerful
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Almighty Majin » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:09 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:What if monaka actually turned out to be monstrously powerful
If Monaka had actually lived up to his hype (which I really wish he did), he would have had a decent fight with Hit and then he would have massacred him. U7 wins and everything is normal except that Goku actually sees Monaka's power and is even more excited to fight him. There are no shenanigans afterwards later and instead of Goku vs Beerus sparring, it's Goku vs Monaka sparring. He would also probably have a greater impact on the story unless he is uninterested in joining the Z-Fighters which is probably the case.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:55 pm

Smilodon wrote:
5) What if future Goku never get the heart virus?
Two ideas on what could happen.

1 - Goku dies from #17 and #18 and everything goes out normally.

2 - Goku barely survives and only a few Z fights live. So maybe have Goku, Gohan, Kuririn and Piccolo live while Yamucha, Tenshinhan, Chaozu and Vegeta are killed off. Goku know that they can't win, so they train in the Room of Spirit and Time for a day. I would imagine they would put up a better fight, but still lose. Bluma would do some research and found a way to create a bomb to blow up #17 an #18. #17 and #18 would probably be destroyed and Cell would not show up until many years later.

We don't know if Babidi and Dabra would show up later or not seeing that the Cell games would probably would not happen. If they do show up seven years later, Goku and the others would probably lose to Dabra unless Goku pulls off a Genki Dama. If they do win, Beerus would go to Earth and find out about Goku. It's still possible that Goten would be born, but I'm not sure if Gohan would ever met Videl. If Goku can't go SSjG, the Earth is gone for good.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:40 pm

What if Mr Satan started training under real Masters and gets his potential unlocked..
Would that affect the story in any way
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