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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Blue » Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:08 pm

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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Xyex » Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:13 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
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The uncut line is along the lines of,

"Yamcha, that idiot!! He could be out with every girl in the city for all I care, I'm done with him!!"

^^Doesn't really suggest cheating.
I don't know. That heavily implies to me that he has done (or is suspected of doing) exactly what she's saying. I doubt someone would just pull that out of their ass.
It doesn't imply anything of the sort, though. She's not saying that he could be out doing that because she's no longer watching him to stop him from doing that, but that she's ended her relationship with him and thusly doesn't care if he is out with another girl. I heard comments like those quite often back in highschool when there was absolutely no cheating involved, implied, or even suspected.

She's just, quite clearly, stating that she doesn't know what he's doing and doesn't care because she's through with him.
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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:18 pm

Xyex wrote:It doesn't imply anything of the sort, though. She's not saying that he could be out doing that because she's no longer watching him to stop him from doing that, but that she's ended her relationship with him and thusly doesn't care if he is out with another girl. I heard comments like those quite often back in highschool when there was absolutely no cheating involved, implied, or even suspected.

She's just, quite clearly, stating that she doesn't know what he's doing and doesn't care because she's through with him.
That's exactly how I interpreted it.
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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Kienzan88gt » Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:30 pm

In case some of you didn't get the link for all the clips so far, here it is again. http://www.mediafire.com/?mgtwwomuwmm

Also I'm re-uploading the youtube clips, I changed the file name and also changed the name of the youtube clip. I don't think FUNI or ABGroup will find it now :P.

Head on over to my youtube channel for the clips, as they start reappearing again. http://www.youtube.com/user/Kienzan88gt

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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:43 pm

Xyex wrote:
It doesn't imply anything of the sort, though. She's not saying that he could be out doing that because she's no longer watching him to stop him from doing that, but that she's ended her relationship with him and thusly doesn't care if he is out with another girl. I heard comments like those quite often back in highschool when there was absolutely no cheating involved, implied, or even suspected.

She's just, quite clearly, stating that she doesn't know what he's doing and doesn't care because she's through with him.
See, that's the funny thing about implicit dialogue: it's not explicit. So it really doesn't HAVE to be anything. You, and other people, interpret the line one way. I, and other people, interpret the line another way. It doesn't make either point any less valid unless whoever wrote the line or the character who spoke the line makes it explicit. But, you know, some people do make things we like to call "slip-ups" (it's a technical term) where people, attempting to deflect from giving away details, accidentally give it away through specifics because it's strongly on their minds. If Bulma rushed in and cried out, "I don't care if Yamucha does screw a hundred midget clowns while bathing in motor oil and ramming a violin up his own ass," it might just be hypothetical hyperbole... or it might sound a little suspicious.
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Post by SSJSteve » Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:53 pm

Thanks for the clips!

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Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:05 pm

Xyex wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:
ohaimynameiserik wrote:
The uncut line is along the lines of,

"Yamcha, that idiot!! He could be out with every girl in the city for all I care, I'm done with him!!"

^^Doesn't really suggest cheating.
I don't know. That heavily implies to me that he has done (or is suspected of doing) exactly what she's saying. I doubt someone would just pull that out of their ass.
It doesn't imply anything of the sort, though. She's not saying that he could be out doing that because she's no longer watching him to stop him from doing that, but that she's ended her relationship with him and thusly doesn't care if he is out with another girl. I heard comments like those quite often back in highschool when there was absolutely no cheating involved, implied, or even suspected.

She's just, quite clearly, stating that she doesn't know what he's doing and doesn't care because she's through with him.
Basically this. She doesn't care who he goes out anymore because she's through with him. I don't see how you can take it the other way.
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Post by Mewzard » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:10 pm

I agree, it's a finalization of the fact that she's cast Yamcha aside, for whatever reason. He's beyond her caring.

For the most part, I like what they're doing with this dub (with it's only failing being that it's not being done to Z). Definitely gives me hope that fans can be at least moderately less divided than in the past.

Remind me, from where to where does this first box set go (in terms of story)? I remember 1-13, but I don't remember what that covers in Kai.
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Post by Amigo Ten » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:19 pm

Episode 13 ends with Goku charging up the Kaioken x3.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:32 pm

jjgp1112 wrote: Basically this. She doesn't care who he goes out anymore because she's through with him. I don't see how you can take it the other way.
Based on the way the actress delivered the line. Kay, thanks!
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Post by Greenman » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:15 pm

Kienzan88gt wrote:Here's the youtube clips, all named in code (backwards ftw!! LOL)

example: 4pilC buD snootkciN detidE VT :iaKZllaBnogarD

http://www.youtube.com/user/Kienzan88gt

Just head over to my youtube account to view all the clips. Oh and don't forget to download all of them at http://www.mediafire.com/?mgtwwomuwmm.
Thank you for the download link. May I ask what method you used to rip the Nicktoons clips?

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Post by Kienzan88gt » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:31 pm

Greenman wrote:
Thank you for the download link. May I ask what method you used to rip the Nicktoons clips?
I used a streaming recorder program called Jacksta. A great program, but you have to pay to fully use it. I'm sure you can find the answer into getting this for free ;).

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Gaffer Tape wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: Basically this. She doesn't care who he goes out anymore because she's through with him. I don't see how you can take it the other way.
Based on the way the actress delivered the line. Kay, thanks!
And I gotta say, I'm lovin' Monica Rial's performance as Bulma. She uses the same voice and tone she used for sexy Simca from Air Gear. She's one of my favorite VA's, so I knew she was going to deliver a good performance for Bulma.

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Post by SilverPlaqueVII » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:36 pm

Nice clips. I gotta say Clinkenbeard looks good without Naldony. IMO, Naldony was good in the Cyborg arc when she played the role as Teen Gohan fought perfect-state Cell.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:52 pm

NeoKING wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: Basically this. She doesn't care who he goes out anymore because she's through with him. I don't see how you can take it the other way.
Based on the way the actress delivered the line. Kay, thanks!
And I gotta say, I'm lovin' Monica Rial's performance as Bulma. She uses the same voice and tone she used for sexy Simca from Air Gear. She's one of my favorite VA's, so I knew she was going to deliver a good performance for Bulma.
I agree. I'm pleased with Rial so far. I think she'll do quite well in the role.
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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:56 pm

Yeah, I have no problem with Monica Rial as Bulma, especially considering the fact that she sounds almost exactly like Tiffany Vollmer, who was already good enough anyway.

Although I'm not liking Gohan so far. It's mainly because I've always looked at Gohan as more grown up and mature then a regular four year old, to the point where I don't even imagine him as a pre-schooler, and I look at him more in the same light as I do Kid Goku in GT. It's easy to forget that Gohan is only 5 in the Namek saga; and I think Nadolny's voice reflected that.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:11 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Although I'm not liking Gohan so far. It's mainly because I've always looked at Gohan as more grown up and mature then a regular four year old
That's because of the dub. At first he is supposed to be a typical 4 year old, which is to contrast him with Goku, and to show how far he comes in maturity when the fighting starts. I'm sure Clinkenbeard's performance will change as the character changes.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:14 pm

To refute that, for a while, I did think it was because of his voice, but when I actually decided to watch it in Japanese and read the manga on top of that, every now and then I would still think, "Oh yeah, I forgot, he's only 5 at this point." I think his voice just reflects the fact that he grew up WAY faster than the average 5 year old.

EDIT: Oh wait, I didn't realize what you were talking about. Stephanie Nadolny's voice was a little more cutesy for 4 year old Gohan back when he was annoying as fuck. But when you watch all of the training filler, her voice gradually becomes more "normal" as Gohan starts to man up more. There's a noticable difference in his voice in the episode where he's with the orphans from the episode where he's stuck on the cliff and Piccolo tosses him an apple.
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Post by Gozar » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:54 pm

Hey guys, any word on if Chris Rager is playing Enma? I'm curious because of Mr. Rager's accident months ago.

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Post by TheMajinRedComet » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:02 pm

Gosh I had not thought about that, I Hope he is. He was a good Enma.
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