Vegeta gets decimated. Gohan is not only at least four times stronger than Vegeta as it is, but a Super Strong Kamehameha to top it off would be absolute overkill, even with a charged-up Final Flash. Heck, Gohan could probably tank it.Galan007 wrote:SSJ2 Gohan's 'Cell-buster' Kamehameha vs. ASSJ Vegeta's Final Flash.
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KentalSSJ6 wrote:The Final Flash only severely wounded a very suppressed Cell (something Cell himself plays up to shoot down Vegeta's ego). Gohan's Kamehameha erased Cell down to the last tiny bit and this was after Cell came back even stronger than before.
Gohan's Kamehameha would punch right through the Final Flash like it did the Kamehameha Cell fired from the air and resulted in him losing a arm and both legs.
I thought the same. I was just having a debate on another forum about this and wanted to hear opinions from others who actually know what they're talking about(several of the posters on that board actually believe Vegeta's FF was around the same level, lol.) Mind you, I don't think Gohan could tank it, but I believe his Kamehameha was FAR more powerful.Darkron2151 wrote:Vegeta gets decimated. Gohan is not only at least four times stronger than Vegeta as it is, but a Super Strong Kamehameha to top it off would be absolute overkill, even with a charged-up Final Flash. Heck, Gohan could probably tank it.
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Nah, Gohan would tank it, especially if he weren't injured.
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Beerus VS Buuggeto.
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Now granted, I don't put too much stock in "amplifications", but I'd put that charged-up Final Flash as an attack that dishes out about a 2x boost, 3x at the very most (bonus for charging). At the same time, I'd probably give the Father-Son Kamehameha about a 2x boost also. So judging by the differences in power between the two (My Personal Numbers):singsing wrote:Nah, Gohan would tank it, especially if he weren't injured.
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Buugetto is done. Granted, I have the gap between Beerus and SSJ3 Vegetto 10 vs. 8 (in which Super Buu won't make a lick of difference), but Beerus isn't one to screw around like Goku did against Freeza, so Beerus takes this.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Beerus VS Buuggeto.
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KentalSSJ6 wrote:Beerus VS Buuggeto.
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Beerus > hypothetical BoG ssj3 vegetto.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Beerus VS Buuggeto.
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So of course beerus is going to stomp the crap out of buuggeto.
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If you subscribe to the belief that Beerus > SSJ3 Vegetto that is. Which I do not.
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Beerus gets turned into candy, and because he lacks Potara magic, he stays that way.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Huh......somehow I completely forgot about thatRandomGuy96 wrote:Beerus gets turned into candy, and because he lacks Potara magic, he stays that way.
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Then we find out his GoD magic makes it so that magic doesn't work on him, period.RandomGuy96 wrote:Beerus gets turned into candy, and because he lacks Potara magic, he stays that way.
If you don't then why post a stomp that you are fully aware of?KentalSSJ6 wrote:If you subscribe to the belief that Beerus > SSJ3 Vegetto that is. Which I do not.
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Potara fusion of Freeza and Cooler VS a Namek arc Vegetto (Goku and Vegeta having their last recorded PL's).
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Nope. Buu eats him. No one is immune to transmutation except Vegetto, and that's supposed to be a special property of his. Simply being a god doesn't make you immune to magic. Gods have never been portrayed as anything special (until BOG at least), they're just regular beings (albeit strong ones) with jobs.Then we find out his GoD magic makes it so that magic doesn't work on him, period.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Beerus would just dodge it, like Goku did. At point blank range.
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I see Beerus as the type who would probably just let himself be hit, thinking the attack to be harmless. That's what he did with Vegeta. Plus, Vegetto couldn't dodge it when Buu took him off guard, so it's obviously not impossible to hit someone with it.Saiga wrote:Beerus would just dodge it, like Goku did. At point blank range.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Vegetto should stomp this.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Potara fusion of Freeza and Cooler VS a Namek arc Vegetto (Goku and Vegeta having their last recorded PL's).
5th Form and Super Saiyan allowed.
Who says that no one else in the entire existence of DB has those "special characteristics" besides Vegetto?RandomGuy96 wrote:Nope. Buu eats him. No one is immune to transmutation except Vegetto, and that's supposed to be a special property of his. Simply being a god doesn't make you immune to magic. Gods have never been portrayed as anything special (until BOG at least), they're just regular beings (albeit strong ones) with jobs.Then we find out his GoD magic makes it so that magic doesn't work on him, period.
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No one, but you'd have to actually prove that Beerus has that capability. Vegetto is the only one who is actually stated and/or shown to be immune.Who says that no one else in the entire existence of DB has those "special characteristics" besides Vegetto?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Yajirobe vs Yamcha.
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Both BoZ.
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Do we know that it is because of Potara magic? I always thought it is because Vegetto is so strong, plus, the Potara seem to be weak to Boo's magic, since the atmosphere in Boo's body broke its power.RandomGuy96 wrote:Beerus gets turned into candy, and because he lacks Potara magic, he stays that way.
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The Daizenshuu bio for Vegetto heavily implies it has nothing to do with strength. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a certain special property of Vegetto, any more than his ability to punch hard would be a "certain special property". Which makes sense, both logically, and because even Vegetto didn't know why he was still able to fight.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Do we know that it is because of Potara magic? I always thought it is because Vegetto is so strong, plus, the Potara seem to be weak to Boo's magic, since the atmosphere in Boo's body broke its power.RandomGuy96 wrote:Beerus gets turned into candy, and because he lacks Potara magic, he stays that way.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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I seriously doubt beerus would take a candy blast head on.
Seems entirely out of character, he didn't tank a single blast in BoG for the sake of showing off.
Even when he was in full show off mode against Goku on KK's planet, he dodged everything.
Seems entirely out of character, he didn't tank a single blast in BoG for the sake of showing off.
Even when he was in full show off mode against Goku on KK's planet, he dodged everything.