Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:35 pm

rereboy wrote:First rule of a design: looking good. Golden Freeza doesn't look good.
But what if the point is to look bad? Like Bacterian, Man Wolf as a human, and Monster Zarbon? :lol:
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Post by Big Momma » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:38 pm

dbzfan7 wrote: His final form was the most different of all. This new form won't ruin the movie for sure, but it encourages using overly simple as an excuse to not try and do something interesting.
His final form was a skinny little shrimp.

And, even from a character design standpoint, it's incredibly simple. Look at his silhouette. There's not much too it.



dbzfan7 wrote: Well personally simple changes aren't very interesting to look at. Hence why people tend to like the AF stuff.
I don't think I've hardly seen anyone praise the AF stuff besides the people that make it themselves. Especially since nearly all of it looks like the same.

no need to sugarcoat it just say it's a Lazy way to go about doing things
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Post by In Brightest Day » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:39 pm

The target DBZ audience is children. If you think kids are going to feel differently towards this upcoming movie than they did the series I don't know what to say to you... other than stop being a baby.

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Post by rereboy » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:41 pm

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rereboy wrote:First rule of a design: looking good. Golden Freeza doesn't look good.
But what if the point is to look bad? Like Bacterian, Man Wolf as a human, and Monster Zarbon? :lol:
Bacterian and Man Wolf were comedy oriented. Monster Zarbon looked as a monster should: scary.
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Post by Big Momma » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:43 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:The target DBZ audience is children. If you think kids are going to feel differently towards this upcoming movie than they did the series I don't know what to say to you... other than stop being a baby.
What are you talking about?
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:43 pm

Big Momma wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote: His final form was the most different of all. This new form won't ruin the movie for sure, but it encourages using overly simple as an excuse to not try and do something interesting.
His final form was a skinny little shrimp.

And, even from a character design standpoint, it's incredibly simple. Look at his silhouette. There's not much too it.
What's your point? Skinny shrimp is fine if he doesn't just look like he's just been tweaked. All of Freeza's forms had more significant changes than this one. 4th stage Freeza looks completely different from all of his previous stages. Now THAT is how you do a good transformation. You could pass true form Freeza as a whole new character if he wasn't used as Freeza's true form.
I don't think I've hardly seen anyone praise the AF stuff besides the people that make it themselves. Especially since nearly all of it looks like the same.
Some designs yes, some no.
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rereboy wrote:First rule of a design: looking good. Golden Freeza doesn't look good.
But what if the point is to look bad? Like Bacterian, Man Wolf as a human, and Monster Zarbon? :lol:
Bacterian and Man Wolf were comedy oriented. Monster Zarbon looked as a monster should: scary.
I know they ain't supposed to look good, that's the point. Fitting the part is what they are designed for well enough though.
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Post by Dyno » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:57 pm

Big Momma wrote:Hmmm...Maybe some more lines might do the trick?

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This is better than the official version.

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Post by Doctor. » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:00 pm

That looks terrible.

I don't like Golden Freeza's design but I have to say that I haven't found a fan design that I do enjoy either.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:01 pm

Toriyama has always gone with simplistic, sleek looks for "ultimate" forms. Or are we just going to pretend that Fr­ieza's fourth form and Perfect Cell are hulking monstrosities?
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Post by Dyno » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:01 pm

I like those spines on his shoulders, like the lines... Just put these details on the official version and... MATCHED! You have made a wonderful evolution for Freeza.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:03 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Toriyama has always gone with simplistic, sleek looks for "ultimate" forms. Or are we just going to pretend that Fr­ieza's fourth form and Perfect Cell are hulking monstrosities?
Well I wouldn't call Perfect Cell sleek but I would call him monsterous. He was a nightmare to me. Freeza 4th form is NOTHING like his other forms. So... :| .

I didn't know we HAVE to like everything new.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:04 pm

Big Momma wrote:Hmmm...Maybe some more lines might do the trick?

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Yikes! :shock:

That is hideous. :thumbdown:

Golden Freeza looks revolutionary in comparison to that.

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Post by rereboy » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:06 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Toriyama has always gone with simplistic, sleek looks for "ultimate" forms. Or are we just going to pretend that Fr­ieza's fourth form and Perfect Cell are hulking monstrosities?
Being simple on itself is not necessarily a bad thing. But a design has to look good (considering its purpose) and it has to work. If a design looks good for its intent, if it works and, to top it off, its simple, it probably is a great design. But Golden Freeza doesn't look good and it doesn't really work.

Freeza's final form and Perfect Cell had designs that worked and that looked pretty good, while managing to be kind of simple.

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Post by Abel Taylor » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:07 pm

TheGmGoken wrote: I didn't know we HAVE to like everything new.
You don't, but hating it and dismissing the movie and Toriyama in their entireties for it is ridiculous.

I like his new form, because it is very similar to his final form, which was my favorite, moreso than his second even. I would like a new form similar to his second or for him to not change at all, or to get red rather than purple pads, so his new form is cool with me.
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Post by Hugo Boss » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:11 pm

Man, with all these references from Freeza saga, I'm afraid that Goku will die in this movie. But I would love if Vegeta is the one that will defeat Freeza in the end, a battle of prodigies. Maybe Bulma will die too.

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Post by Doctor. » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:12 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:Man, with all these references from Freeza saga, I'm afraid that Goku will die in this movie. But I would love if Vegeta is the one that will defeat Freeza in the end, a battle of prodigies. Maybe Bulma will die too.
If the Earth is getting blown up like they made it seem like, everyone's dying.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:12 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Toriyama has always gone with simplistic, sleek looks for "ultimate" forms. Or are we just going to pretend that Fr­ieza's fourth form and Perfect Cell are hulking monstrosities?
Well I wouldn't call Perfect Cell sleek but I would call him monsterous. He was a nightmare to me. Freeza 4th form is NOTHING like his other forms. So... :| .

I didn't know we HAVE to like everything new.
What you didn't know 4th form Freeza is a reskin of 1st, 2nd, or 3rd form. You must not be seeing it...wait....True Freeza looks nothing like the previous forms. It looks completely different and could even pass as it's own character?...huh. Whadya know, creativity.

Seems to be the consensus sometimes. If you don't like it, try to explain things away and do the creative teams work for them.
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Post by Avenged » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:14 pm

Big Momma wrote:Hmmm...Maybe some more lines might do the trick?

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So, Princess Ruto? lol

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:18 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Toriyama has always gone with simplistic, sleek looks for "ultimate" forms. Or are we just going to pretend that Fr­ieza's fourth form and Perfect Cell are hulking monstrosities?
Well I wouldn't call Perfect Cell sleek but I would call him monsterous. He was a nightmare to me. Freeza 4th form is NOTHING like his other forms. So... :| .

I didn't know we HAVE to like everything new.
What you didn't know 4th form Freeza is a reskin of 1st, 2nd, or 3rd form. You must not be seeing it...wait....True Freeza looks nothing like the previous forms. It looks completely different and could even pass as it's own character?...huh. Whadya know, creativity.

Seems to be the consensus sometimes. If you don't like it, try to explain things away and do the creative teams work for them.
I feel like since it's an evolution instead of a transformation. It would have been okay to do minor changes like removing the purple plate on the stomach, gaining god aura, or even do a hybrid of his 2 most famous forms. But Golden Freeza sucks. It's just...ugly. I honestly DON'T mean to harm to people's opinions but how can you like it?
What's y'all opinion on this had it been Freeza's God form?
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:21 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:I feel like since it's an evolution instead of a transformation. It would have been okay to do minor changes like removing the purple plate on the stomach, gaining god aura, or even do a hybrid of his 2 most famous forms. But Golden Freeza sucks. It's just...ugly. I honestly mean to harm to people's opinions but how can you like it?
What's y'all opinion on this had it been Freeza's God form?
I didn't need a gigantic change, but something that made the form stand out more. A paint job and some tiny tweaks don't do it for me.

That is worse cause it's a literal recolour by all definitions.
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