Die-hard dub fans (why are you, if so?)

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Post by Rocketman » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:35 pm

penguintruth wrote:Subtleties and eccentricities are what separate interesting, compelling characters from generic ones. Guess which the Funimation versions are?
I'm actually interested in some kind of comparison thread between characters in the JPN and US versions.

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Post by laserkid » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:31 pm

That's not a bad idea, I'll be back with something along those lines in a bit.
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Post by Chrono Trigger » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:40 pm

laserkid wrote:That's not a bad idea, I'll be back with something along those lines in a bit.
Aw man I wanted to do it! Oh well. I can't wait to see what you come up with. Should be pretty interesting.
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Post by Kaboom » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:53 pm

I could compile something similar, but I'd probably just end up using snarky, humorous pictures to represent the dub-versions of the characters, and that might end up counter-productive.
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Post by laserkid » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:50 am

This took longer then I thought it would (mainly because I got invited to dinner by my folks), but here's my comparison chart. This is my take on it, so feel free to disagree with it, but if you do please give your reasons, rather then just arguing. It's not as though I'm some all knowing source, this is just my take on it. Sooo...

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:03 am

Seems right for the most part.
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Post by Dr. Casey » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:05 am

Damn, this is nice. Looking forward to the rest of the comparison.

Goku's more serious in the dub, though? I thought they kept his lighthearted attitude, they just increased his intelligence somewhat and removed some of the country folksy flavor from him. Of course, I haven't watched the dub since 2004, so...

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Post by Big Momma » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:09 am

Dr. Casey wrote: Goku's more serious in the dub, though? I thought they kept his lighthearted attitude, they just increased his intelligence somewhat and removed some of the country folksy flavor from him. Of course, I haven't watched the dub since 2004, so...
That's about it. He's still carefree and loose in the dub.

But I will say that, if anything, he is more serious when he's fighting.
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Post by penguintruth » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:11 am

Yeah, I definitely think they made Goku a few IQ points higher in the dub, not just made him "more serious". There are times when Japanese Goku can be SERIOUS BUSINESS, too.

Goku comes off as being sort of a wiseass in the dub, whereas in Japanese, he doesn't really understand sarcasm that well.
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Post by laserkid » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:13 am

I didn't mean to imply dub Goku is NEVER silly, or that the original is NEVER serious, its a proclivity issue.
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Post by bkev » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:19 am

Well, I'd argue that dub-Goku still loves a good fight; didn't he say something like that in the Broly movie before reading and sports? ;). He is a bit more of a Superman though.

I'd like to tackle Vegeta tomorrow if that's okay.
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Post by laserkid » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:52 am

Go ahead, I'm at a loss on who to tackle next. Mainly because this is all from memory, I haven't watched the dub seriously in a long time.
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Post by penguintruth » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:29 am

I think Vegeta is too inconsistent in the dub. Sometimes they get him right, other times not at all. It would be hard to get a profile on him.
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Post by laserkid » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:45 am

Well, in the mean time here's my take on Yamcha. He actually makes it out better then Goku did. As with Goku, feel free to disagree with me, these are just my observations, and if you disagree, tell me in what way. :)

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Post by laserkid » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:39 am

And because the IRC chatroom demanded it, here's Master Roshi. Kuririn's next up to bat.

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Post by Dayspring » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:32 am

Going back to the original question, I find I can't watch any version of the Pilaf saga without it being the Saban dub. Which is odd, because I can't stand the anime (outside specials, movies, and certain Saiyan saga eps), let alone the dubs, let alone the Saban-era dubs. O_o
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Post by Big Momma » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:08 am

Some of these comparisons seem kind of insulting on the dub side, thus making them a little pointless.
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Post by caejones » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:29 am

laserkid wrote:This took longer then I thought it would (mainly because I got invited to dinner by my folks), but here's my comparison chart. This is my take on it, so feel free to disagree with it, but if you do please give your reasons, rather then just arguing. It's not as though I'm some all knowing source, this is just my take on it. Sooo...

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:28 pm

Truth be told, I look at that and I agree, but then I think about it. You really picked out the corniest lines from the dub (like for Goku being ally to justice and all that). The truth is that Goku is still a carefree idiot in the dub, he does find fighting to be fun and exciting, and yes loves his family, but the story itself insinuates he tends to forget about them. And in the dub, Yamcha is still very knowledgeable in martial arts. And I don't think Roshi is much different between the two versions.

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Post by isucamper » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:28 pm

Big Momma wrote:Some of these comparisons seem kind of insulting on the dub side, thus making them a little pointless.
Perhaps offer suggestions for improvements? If you know the dub well, maybe you can offer good insight.

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