Having some variety from the standard Spike DBZ games is a good, no, great thing, I'm excited to play Dragon Ball Z For Kinect.sintzu wrote:if there is no annoncment at e3 than we are left with the terror knowen as dbz kinect
I'm pretty okay with not spending 50 euros on a crappy game since I don't have the console. I'll just pop in Advanced Adventure and pretend it's the new portable gamesintzu wrote:if there is no annoncment at e3 than we are left with the terror knowen as dbz kinect
(still fun and holds up)Kinda uncalled for, since VegettoEX already warned him. (And even if he didn't, you need to remember that you're not a mod...and that there are less rude ways to say things)dbboxkaifan wrote:By the way, Sintzu, I shouldn't be saying this but the rules state to write in proper English and this isn't YouTube to be writing like that.
Believe me, even at that price it's still money better spent on something else loldbboxkaifan wrote:As for Ultimate Blast, I still haven't played it yet because I'm waiting for a price drop around £9.95 or £12.95 (TheHut/Zavvi).
what do you mean ( proper english) and (writing like that)dbboxkaifan wrote:Having some variety from the standard Spike DBZ games is a good, no, great thing, I'm excited to play Dragon Ball Z For Kinect.sintzu wrote:if there is no annoncment at e3 than we are left with the terror knowen as dbz kinect
As for Ultimate Blast, I still haven't played it yet because I'm waiting for a price drop around £9.95 or £12.95 (TheHut/Zavvi).
By the way, Sintzu, I shouldn't be saying this but the rules state to write in proper English and this isn't YouTube to be writing like that.
I don't know why you are so optimistic, in fact I find it pretty annoying. Especially since I can just as well bet that once the game is released and you've played it you will begin saying it wasn't as you expected and not that great. Out of curiosity, how did you find UT?dbboxkaifan wrote:Having some variety from the standard Spike DBZ games is a good, no, great thing, I'm excited to play Dragon Ball Z For Kinect.sintzu wrote:if there is no annoncment at e3 than we are left with the terror knowen as dbz kinect
We should probably continue this in another thread, but I want to reply to that specific part. I don't think that makes much sense from both a business and fandom point of view. Devil May Cry 1, 2 and 3 were last gen games, so does that mean they SHOULDN'T have made a 4 on the PS3 and made something new? Of course not, they did really well. Similarly, (albeit in a smaller scale) we have yet to see a Dragon Ball game do as well as Sparking Meteor (BT3) overall, so it would make perfect sense to go back and make a sequel to the game that most people still point to. Even more so when Raging Blast, advertised as the next generation Sparking/BT, seemed like a reboot taking quite a few steps back that DID make them look not so competent, specially when they even managed to screw up the CAMERA in the game.DonieZ wrote:they were never going to make a sequel to BT3, never. One, it was a last gen game, which was made nearly 5 years ago. Two, as a company it would really have made them look in-competent, to think that they would had to resort to doing such a thing since lacking ideas. It would have shown that they weren't ver creative and simply that they were failing.
)Yes, but you're ignoring the fact that BT3 was created around 5 years ago (I think, abit more or less anyway). If they tried to make a sequel just as they began into next gen, then yeah, it makes plenty of sense. Well not plenty, since there are some MAJOR difficulties which a lot of people disregard, such as the inability to port over data and continue working on a next-gen format. Anyway, it's how many years later, and Spike have released RB, RB2, and UT. Now, as RB basically can be regarded as the series following Tenkaichi, since the concept is the same, but with a different name, why would the game be stated and named BT4, hinting it has nothing to do with RB, when they've been working on RB for a couple years now? It would make a lot more sense to say they are making a 'RB3', but advertised with just as many characters as BT3. BT4 fortunately was never going to happen.Rukura wrote:We should probably continue this in another thread, but I want to reply to that specific part. I don't think that makes much sense from both a business and fandom point of view. Devil May Cry 1, 2 and 3 were last gen games, so does that mean they SHOULDN'T have made a 4 on the PS3 and made something new? Of course not, they did really well. Similarly, (albeit in a smaller scale) we have yet to see a Dragon Ball game do as well as Sparking Meteor (BT3) overall, so it would make perfect sense to go back and make a sequel to the game that most people still point to. Even more so when Raging Blast, advertised as the next generation Sparking/BT, seemed like a reboot taking quite a few steps back that DID make them look not so competent, specially when they even managed to screw up the CAMERA in the game.DonieZ wrote:they were never going to make a sequel to BT3, never. One, it was a last gen game, which was made nearly 5 years ago. Two, as a company it would really have made them look in-competent, to think that they would had to resort to doing such a thing since lacking ideas. It would have shown that they weren't ver creative and simply that they were failing.
Ultimate Tenkaichi proved that they really are not that creative and are indeed lacking ideas. In that respect, it makes sense that you either make the game everyone seems to want or start to repackage the old ones in HD Collection. (Oh, look, managed to tie it back to the thread
Devil May Cry 4 came three whole years after 3. I don't see what the big deal is, since Spike's been using the same engine all these years. Discussing name changes is neither here nor there, since they already did that this year with Ultimate Blast, being completely different from Raging Blast, yet using that name. Making a new one under that Sparking name wouldn't be that much out there as you seem to think.DonieZ wrote:Yes, but you're ignoring the fact that BT3 was created around 5 years ago (I think, abit more or less anyway). If they tried to make a sequel just as they began into next gen, then yeah, it makes plenty of sense. Well not plenty, since there are some MAJOR difficulties which a lot of people disregard, such as the inability to port over data and continue working on a next-gen format. Anyway, it's how many years later, and Spike have released RB, RB2, and UT. Now, as RB basically can be regarded as the series following Tenkaichi, since the concept is the same, but with a different name, why would the game be stated and named BT4, hinting it has nothing to do with RB, when they've been working on RB for a couple years now? It would make a lot more sense to say they are making a 'RB3', but advertised with just as many characters as BT3. BT4 fortunately was never going to happen.
That's very easy, actually. A lot of people don't actually play it for the gameplay itself, but for the characters. They use it as a DBZ simulator. Raging Blast had a much shorter roster and the gameplay didn't feel as fluid in comparison, not to mention that they entirely changed the button layout for no real reason. Oh, and did I mention that they messed up the camera that worked properly for the 3 games prior to it?DonieZ wrote:I don't think RB made them look incompetent, not the first one anyway. I mean why? They used the same concept, but it's not like it was the same exact game, it wasn't at all. Plenty of things were adjusted in the gameplay and other areas. What held it back is probably the fact that they just aren't good with making fighting games, they don't seem to know the meaning of depth. Doesn't mean to say RB made them look incompetent though, the combat aspect in fact is the best out of any of their Sparking! styled games.
I don't know why people credit Budokai Tenkaichi III so much, the story mode is flawed, characters, there's plenty of characters, they felt replicas with different skins but not much variety and the music was depressing to the point I had to mute it.Rukura wrote:DonieZ wrote:we have yet to see a Dragon Ball game do as well as Sparking Meteor (BT3) overall
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"Goku (End)"Okay, well that's true. However, I'm guessing, unless I'm mistaken, that the developers took at least 2 of those 3 whole years to release 4, without releasing anything major to do with the same franchise in between on the same console. That's the difference, there have been many games between now and BT3 created by Spike, which would make going back to it seem pretty stupid for us to assume, I think. After all, all it was was speculation, what 'we' thought. Yeah, they did go a bit off-route with how they name the games, but still, to just magically expect a new Tenkaichi title, without considering everything, seems to me a bit naive.Rukura wrote:Devil May Cry 4 came three whole years after 3. I don't see what the big deal is, since Spike's been using the same engine all these years. Discussing name changes is neither here nor there, since they already did that this year with Ultimate Blast, being completely different from Raging Blast, yet using that name. Making a new one under that Sparking name wouldn't be that much out there as you seem to think.
Whilst a lot of people don't, a lot of people do, and that's why they don't buy 'em. RB's gameplay didn't feel as fluid, however it was solid and not very broken, all it required was jazzing up in it's sequel, and more emphasis on character uniqueness. Tbh, expecting that much doesn't seem very realistic considering the amount of characters added and the time they have. And about that camera, I don't see it as they 'messed' it up, but more like they couldn't get it as good before. I mean, it's not like they had set as how it was on default, then made adjustments and messed it up, not at all They tried, but couldn't.That's very easy, actually. A lot of people don't actually play it for the gameplay itself, but for the characters. They use it as a DBZ simulator. Raging Blast had a much shorter roster and the gameplay didn't feel as fluid in comparison, not to mention that they entirely changed the button layout for no real reason. Oh, and did I mention that they messed up the camera that worked properly for the 3 games prior to it?
I really hope they make an HD collection pack. 
The music.Cold Skin wrote:If they actually do it, I don't understand why they make a whole pack instead of the third episode only, which is considered to be the best (and they are just more complete updates everytime, so why would anyone play Tenkaichi 1 & 2 so much?).
Most who think that way are over at YouTube, and there's a topic here about which DBZ game is the best, which is subjective, of course.Cold Skin wrote:I think if they know so much how people consider Tenkaichi 3 to be the best
It May Have Its Flawse But Its Way Better Than What We Got This Generationdbboxkaifan wrote:The music.Cold Skin wrote:If they actually do it, I don't understand why they make a whole pack instead of the third episode only, which is considered to be the best (and they are just more complete updates everytime, so why would anyone play Tenkaichi 1 & 2 so much?).
Most who think that way are over at YouTube, and there's a topic here about which DBZ game is the best, which is subjective, of course.Cold Skin wrote:I think if they know so much how people consider Tenkaichi 3 to be the best
Not going to repeat myself but BT3 is a very flawed game, OK game, I'd say.
BT1 released outside Japan had Yamamoto's Budokai music, right? It would be replaced for sure if this HD collection really got released. In addition, the Japanese version of BT3 had the theme song composed by Yamamoto, which cannot be used any more.dbboxkaifan wrote:The music.Cold Skin wrote:If they actually do it, I don't understand why they make a whole pack instead of the third episode only, which is considered to be the best (and they are just more complete updates everytime, so why would anyone play Tenkaichi 1 & 2 so much?).
Which is actually taken from the Budokai games. (In the international releases only, of course)dbboxkaifan wrote:The music.Cold Skin wrote:If they actually do it, I don't understand why they make a whole pack instead of the third episode only, which is considered to be the best (and they are just more complete updates everytime, so why would anyone play Tenkaichi 1 & 2 so much?).
BT1's music was taken from the Budokai games.dbboxkaifan wrote:BT3's music is from a Budokai game? I don't remember hearing such horrific soundtrack from a Budokai game.
