Gohan Strongest Unfused character.

[dbzfan7]

Whoever said 400x... I missed that obviously. Holy Sh*t. 400x? I figured maybe 5x at most...

Because of the whole Oob thing people think he got over 400x stronger. Only in GT he did that as he has full access to the power of GT logic. I figure he could get 3x at most.

GT is like AF. That story can do what it wants, no matter how unrealistic it is. Base Kid Goku > SSJ3 Z Goku = still mind boggles the living f**k out of me.

Yeah but it not only high balls Goku, it low balls everyone who's not Goku. GT accoring to Toriyama means Grand Touring/Grand Tour, but I like to think GT actually stands for Goku Time. The rule of Goku Time is that your not able to do shit unless your Goku. Vegeta was lucky that they allowed him to have SSJ4 just so they could make Goku more powerful as Gogeta. But after that failed Goku Time kicked in again as he ended the series with a Genki Dama while tanking Omega Shenrons attacks (which makes no sense),Why, because it was Goku Time.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Speaking of GT... why is it that when Vegeta or Goten or Gohan try to fight the bad guy, they always charge toward them at base form? Like seriously? You already do not stand a chance as a SSJ, so you might as well start out as one... GT logik for ya.

[MDSTSSJ]

I don't think Gohan was ever surpassed (except in the upcoming movie with SSJ God). Goku as an SSJ was already close to Cell Games Gohan SSJ before the 7 years. After the seven years he is only somewhat above SSJ2 Cell Games Gohan without including SSJ3. That means he didn't get drastically stronger (I would say 2-3x maybe). Piccolo classifies Majin Vegeta as around SSJ2 Gohan back then and Vegeta says Goku is stronger then Gohan was. I find it hard to believe Goku could get 400x stronger in 10 years when no boost like that has ever been seen. Zenkais have become insignificant according to the daizenshuu, and he trained only on earth. I say he could get maybe 4x stronger at best. That still pales to Gohan.

Well.... Goku did fairly intense weight training.. at least in the Anime that was shown.

And remember when Goku was on his way to Namek and he got several times stronger in just 5 days? He went from only 8,000 to 90,000 base (not counting a potential 10x kaioken stating he could already use). He did most likely undergo a Zenkai; but that couldn't have made it any higher than a 6,000 or 8,000 additional boost.

In the seven years he barely got stronger. He was started somewhat below SSJ Gohan and became somewhat stronger then SSJ2 Gohan Cell Games. That is a minimal increase. Goku got that much stronger on the way to namek because he abused zenkais and had gravity training. Both examples are still way below the 400x increase people think Goku got.

Mmm in 7 years he barely got stronger? In those 7 years you forgot SSJ3? In those 7 years, he achieve SSJ2 and SSJ3. That´s a lot power and you know that . SSJ3 is 4 times stronger that SSJ2.

In 10 years we don´t know nothing about Kakarotto´s training but, we do know, he was going to train hard ( he said that before defeating Boo ). He invented the Room Time idea, he invented gravity training idea, he invented the Fusion idea. Is very conceivable that he devised a new type of training for surpass his powers even in Earth. Besides, he doesn´t know when the reincarnation of Boo appear, so, even greater are the chances for exceed his power in that period of time, even before that those 10 years I dare to say.

[Saiga]

If Vegeta stands any chance, Toriyama must have made him SSJ3. This is the only way he make any sort of a difference in a fight with these new enemies.

Not likely. It seems that despite being outclassed in Super Saiyan 3 form, Goku is still capable of fighting Bils in his regular Super Saiyan form, and Vegeta might be able to put up a better fight than Gohan as a regular Super Saiyan. This is why I wouldn't trust the movie for any power comparisons.

[dbzfan7]

Mmm in 7 years he barely got stronger? In those 7 years you forgot SSJ3? In those 7 years, he achieve SSJ2 and SSJ3. That´s a lot power and you know that . SSJ3 is 4 times stronger that SSJ2.

In 10 years we don´t know nothing about Kakarotto´s training but, we do know, he was going to train hard ( he said that before defeating Boo ). He invented the Room Time idea, he invented gravity training idea, he invented the Fusion idea. Is very conceivable that he devised a new type of training for surpass his powers even in Earth. Besides, he doesn´t know when the reincarnation of Boo appear, so, even greater are the chances for exceed his power in that period of time, even before that those 10 years I dare to say.

I didn't forget SSJ3. I didn't add it to my point because my point is that his base abilities didn't increase that much in 7 years. His base grew to a point where his SSJ2 form would only be somewhat stronger then Cell Games Gohan. That is a small increase in base. He only got drastically stronger in those seven years from gaining SSJ2/3. His base state only grew a little. Now without transformations to exploit he can't get big increases.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

If you give Gohan an anger boost during the fight with Cell, Goku got quite a lot better in those 7 years.

[DannyDBZfanforever]

By the Toriyama Universe (aka manga continuation) yeah, he has high possibilities. By Toei Universe (anime with fillers, movies), Goku-san is the man of the show. By the games, who knows, perhaps Broly . Broly did Gogeta fly a few miles with just one punch (DBZ Budokai 3 opening Scene)