I agree, when potara is introduced its a huge decline in quality. Even as a kid I could tell the series didn't know what the hell it was doing, like when Vegetto defused for the dumbest reason.RandomGuy96 wrote: I think the Saiyan arc was great and the Buu arc was even better. I actually think the Buu arc got better after Vegeta died; not that it was bad before, but when Super Buu showed up is when everything started becoming really good. It then had a massive drop in quality soon after Potara was introduced to shove Goku back into the spotlight, but even that bit of awfulness can't completely cancel out how good the first two thirds are. The Freeza arc was good, but really dragged on in certain parts, like when Freeza repeatedly declared that he wasn't left handed, and the character himself felt like a rehash of Vegeta. Hell, half the arc is just one long fight with Freeza. Cell arc sucked something serious, for reasons I won't repeat. Suffice to say I think it's the worst of the four by FAR.
Does anybody actually think that DBZ got better post-Namek?
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Re: Does anybody actually think that DBZ got better post-Nam
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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Re: Does anybody actually think that DBZ got better post-Nam
I like how the post cuts off the topic so that it seems to imply the question of whether or not DBZ got better after it returned from its scuffle in Vietnam. 

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Re: Does anybody actually think that DBZ got better post-Nam
Or maybe its asking if DBZ got better when Goku beat Nam!Gaffer Tape wrote:I like how the post cuts off the topic so that it seems to imply the question of whether or not DBZ got better after it returned from its scuffle in Vietnam.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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Re: Does anybody actually think that DBZ got better post-Nam
Toriyama intended to end the story at Nam, but his editor made him continue.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: Does anybody actually think that DBZ got better post-Nam
Such fact.RandomGuy96 wrote:Toriyama intended to end the story at Nam, but his editor made him continue.
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