Resurrection F Box Office - $64.8 million Worldwide

[fexus]

Yes, people like different things but that doesn't mean that some things aren't better than the other.

Being better isn't an objective quality. Being better is always subjective. Something can only be better to someone and only because someone judged it to be better. Better is not a natural state of things, it's a judgment.

Being better is sometimes an objective quality. Better animation, better directing, better characters and better character interaction. Sure, you could like bad animation, bad directing, bad characters and people acting like a rock but that doesn't suddenly make something better.

[rereboy]

Being better is sometimes an objective quality. Better animation, better directing, better characters and better character interaction. Sure, you could like bad animation, bad directing, bad characters and people acting like a rock but that doesn't suddenly make something better.

There's better animation because you judged it to be better than some other animation. There's no scientific test to determine if its better, there's no chemical reaction that happens when you add water to it that indicates that indeed it's better, there's only a judgment made by people according to their own subjective criteria of what actually constitutes better animation.

If you disagree with someone regarding something having better animation, that's all you can do, disagree. Because it's all just opinion, judgment, not an objective state of being. If an alien visited our world and said that some animation that you consider awful was better than some animation that you consider great, how would you prove him wrong? You literally couldn't, precisely because it's subjective and the alien was obviously using different criteria and judgments than you.

And it's the same for everything else you mentioned.

[fexus]

Being better is sometimes an objective quality. Better animation, better directing, better characters and better character interaction. Sure, you could like bad animation, bad directing, bad characters and people acting like a rock but that doesn't suddenly make something better.

There's better animation because you judged it to be better than some other animation. There's no scientific test to determine if its better, there's no chemical reaction that happens when you add water to it that indicates that indeed it's better, there's only a judgment made by people according to their own subjective criteria of what actually constitutes better animation.

If you disagree with someone regarding something having better animation, that's all you can do, disagree. Because it's all just opinion, judgment, not an objective state of being. If an alien visited our world and said that some animation that you consider awful was better than some animation that you consider great, how would you prove him wrong? You literally couldn't, precisely because it's subjective and the alien was obviously using different criteria and judgments than you.

And it's the same for everything else you mentioned.

You actually could judge some animation to be better. For example, if there are people that think that the animation in Ninja Slayer is better than the animation in Redline, they are obviously wrong. If there is an alien that would do that, they need to explain themselves. Maybe they think that trash smells nice and flowers smell awful. Who knows?

[johnboy1]

For example, if there are people that think that the animation in Ninja Slayer is better than the animation in Redline, they are obviously wrong.

If you're so confident in that fact, why don't you prove it? I'm serious. If it's so obvious, then it shouldn't be too much trouble to write down a rigorous scientific proof. Go ahead, I'll wait right here. Oh, and "Just look at it" doesn't constitute proof.

[fexus]

For example, if there are people that think that the animation in Ninja Slayer is better than the animation in Redline, they are obviously wrong.

If you're so confident in that fact, why don't you prove it? I'm serious. If it's so obvious, then it shouldn't be too much trouble to write down a rigorous scientific proof. Go ahead, I'll wait right here. Oh, and "Just look at it" doesn't constitute proof.

Oh, that's easy. Redline actually has animation and not moving paper cut outs.

[Bullza]

Thursday Estimated Gross - ¥41 million ($343,000)

Total - ¥1.205 billion ($10.12 million)

Admissions Estimate - 906,000

Today it performed inline with Conan which did ¥45 million. So that whole thing yesterday with Conan making significantly more and it possibly being because DBZ isn't as appealing to females seems to be true.

[johnboy1]

Oh, that's easy. Redline actually has animation and not moving paper cut outs.

But that statement is founded on the assumption that paper cut-outs are inferior to full animation, a comparison which has likewise not been proven. If someone said that the cut-out animation was amazing, how would you prove him wrong? See the problem here? From an objective standpoint, ANY aesthetic statement is built on a foundation of sand, because beneath each opinion is an assumption about what constitutes quality, and that assumption is based on... more opinion. When two different assumptions clash, we have no device by which to judge between them except... our opinions, which brings us right back to square one.

[FortuneSSJ]

Today it performed inline with Conan which did ¥45 million. So that whole thing yesterday with Conan making significantly more and it possibly being because DBZ isn't as appealing to females seems to be true.

Man, that's dirty. We need discount for men too.

I'm actually glad this movie made less than BoG.

Comments like this make wonder why who say them are even fans of this franchise.

It seems every time we get something new there are "fans" like you who want it to fail.

This fanbase can be really pathetic most of the times.

[Chuquita]

Thursday Estimated Gross - ¥41 million ($343,000)

Total - ¥1.205 billion ($10.12 million)

Admissions Estimate - 906,000

Today it performed inline with Conan which did ¥45 million. So that whole thing yesterday with Conan making significantly more and it possibly being because DBZ isn't as appealing to females seems to be true.

Are there that few female fans of DB in Japan? I never felt like I was one of a small group on the internet, but then the internet is the whole world, so. (And also my interests are such that I don't fall into the stereotype anyway.)

I read a page back Wednesday is discount day, that make it a general date night or something? Do romance movies make more on Wednesdays in Japan?

Edit: Wait, is it a discount applies only to women? Like a ladies night a bar, only it's a theater?

[FortuneSSJ]

- Ask for equality
- Still like to be treated different

Edit: Wait, is it a discount applies only to women? Like a ladies night a bar, only it's a theater?

Yup, seems like this is the best comparison.

[sintzu]

Thursday Estimated Gross - ¥41 million ($343,000)

Total - ¥1.205 billion ($10.12 million)

Based on these numbers,do you think it'll be able to make 40 million in Japan ?

[Chuquita]

Weird that there's a ladies' discount day. Is there a kids or seniors day? I'd think those would be there first.

[Bullza]

Are there that few female fans of DB in Japan?

I have no idea but it would probably be safe to assume so. Fast 7 also had a bigger boost on Wednesday too. Even though you'd think that was more guy centric as well.

From just what I've seen over the years DB has always seemed to attract a more male heavy fan base. There's obviously a lot of female fans too but not to the same kind of ratio that Naruto seems to have for example.

There aren't exactly many female characters in the series, especially strong characters so it doesn't surprise me.

Wait, is it a discount applies only to women?

Yeah, tickets cost less for women on a Wednesday. I'm going to see the film at Shibuya Toei and I was checking the website and it always mentions there that a General ticket is ¥1,800 but on ladies day every Wednesday it's only ¥1,100.

Is there a kids or seniors day? I'd think those would be there first.

Well at least according to the same website there's a permanent senior discount for people over 60. There's also a discount for small and medium infants from 3 and over.

[Bullza]

Based on these numbers,do you think it'll be able to make 40 million in Japan ?

I would say no as $40 million would be almost ¥4.8 million and I just can't see it making that much.

We'll have to see what it stands at after the second weekend before any real final result predictions could reasonably be given. It's opening weekend was spectacular but it's weekday grosses haven't been spectacular and from estimates have been behind Conan and Fast 7 (thought not by that much) which could really mean one of two things.

1. It's going to be front loaded and will drop off quickly.

2. It's more of a weekend film and that's where it will really rebound.

We'll know soon enough and then I'll try answering your question again.

[Chuquita]

I consider Bulma, 18, and Chi-Chi to be strong characters. They're just underutilized. It's why I was hoping for some 'Bulma pilots a mech' when I learned she'd be on the battlefield.

Naruto could never hold my interest, I left midway through the chuunin exams and only came back near the tail end because I heard things were getting crazy. I did like that Road to Ninja movie tho, but mostly the first half hour.

[FortuneSSJ]

We still don't know how many weeks ROF will be on theaters, do we?
The movie already made more than 1 billion yen and the first week still didn't over.

[Bullza]

I consider Bulma, 18, and Chi-Chi to be strong characters.

Do you mean physically because that's what I was referring to. Throughout DBZ #18 is the only character who has any kind of worthwhile strength and any real significance she had in the series went after the Tournament.

Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, Fairy Tail etc have a huge amount of female characters who appear far more frequently and stay significant in strenght so take part in significant battles.

They also have that whole "Who is X going to get with?" relationship pairing thing that DBZ doesn't really have and that helps bring in a female fan base.

[Doctor.]

bringing back dead villains like Freeza who didnt even get any character development

But he very clearly did.

[Big Momma]

Yes, people like different things but that doesn't mean that some things aren't better than the other.

Being better isn't an objective quality. Being better is always subjective. Something can only be better to someone and only because someone judged it to be better. Better is not a natural state of things, it's a judgment.

Except in this case that's wrong because Freeza is 100% an objectively better character than Broly.

[StrawHatPatriot]

For example, if there are people that think that the animation in Ninja Slayer is better than the animation in Redline, they are obviously wrong.

If you're so confident in that fact, why don't you prove it? I'm serious. If it's so obvious, then it shouldn't be too much trouble to write down a rigorous scientific proof. Go ahead, I'll wait right here. Oh, and "Just look at it" doesn't constitute proof.

Oh, that's easy. Redline actually has animation and not moving paper cut outs.

Ninja Slayers intentionally goes for a limited animation with high contrast colors to mimic an expressive, comic-book/manga like style. Redline goes for a slick, vibrant, blended feel.

There's nothing objectively better about one since they each go for different things.