Biggest exageration by fans?

[TheGreatness25]

I think the whole thing was kept in except his blood spurting out.

[ABED]

http://dbzu.3gkai.com/series/ep079.html
And it turns out, a lot of Gohan being totured by Freeza was cut from the episode.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Another exageration is how the fanbase treat DB- as something "Bad very Bad that should be forgotten", it is not so bad as they make it out to be.

[Hellspawn28]

DB- is okay. I never had issues with it. If we never got the 1990 Bardock TV special then I'm pretty sure people would like DB-.

[MajinMan]

On the whole dub vs sub thing; I understand if you like the dub more than the sub, but the dub is in no way, shape or form, accurate to the original product. As a grown man (kinda), I can see all the obvious faults it has as a DUB of something. It's not a good DUB in the traditional sense because it doesn't do a good job in translating the show. Now, that doen't mean that you can't enjoy it more than the original. It just means that it's not a good representation of the original Japanese version. However, the current dub is fantastic.

[Kuririn Fan]

Another exageration is how the fanbase treat DB- as something "Bad very Bad that should be forgotten", it is not so bad as they make it out to be.

It is bad. It is shit.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Another exageration is how the fanbase treat DB- as something "Bad very Bad that should be forgotten", it is not so bad as they make it out to be.

It is bad. It is shit.

As far as making sense go, DB- >> Episode of Bardock.

[Doctor.]

Another exageration is how the fanbase treat DB- as something "Bad very Bad that should be forgotten", it is not so bad as they make it out to be.

It is bad. It is shit.

As far as making sense go, DB- >> Episode of Bardock.

They're both terrible and shouldn't exist. At least EoB served as promotional material for Heroes, and that's literally the only reason it exists, DB Minus was actually supposed to be an expansion of the story and it fails at it.

[VegettoEX]

It is bad. It is shit.

This is what we would call "a nothing post": you've added nothing to the conversation, served only to be antagonistic, and we will not tolerate this kind of worthless contribution.

[Hellspawn28]

People say that Goku and Vegeta have too much screen time now does seem to be over exaggerated to me. The 2008 Jump Special had Goten and Trunks had their time to shine. ROF had Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin, Tien, Roshi and Jaco helping out against Freeza's army. Goku and Vegeta didn't show up to help out until later in the film. Not to mention the U6 saga is going have Piccolo and Buu join the team too. We are also going to get a space trip with Bluma, Tights and Jaco also.

[GTX]

GT plotholes. What plotholes anyway.

[Hellspawn28]

GT did had a good amount of plot holes in it. Sure GT is not the worst anime ever, but the writing in it was not very good though.

[GTX]

GT did had a good amount of plot holes in it. Sure GT is not the worst anime ever, but the writing in it was not very good though.

I don't think so. I don't see any plot hole in GT.

[precita]

I haven't watched GT in literally 10 years, but I remember a ton of plotholes.

For some reason I remember some episodes where Goku couldn't power up to Super Saiyan because "the energy of the world" wasn't there or something. I think this happened in the Dark Dragon saga. I think this also happened when he was in Hell against Freeza and Cell? There were also episodes where the cast for some reason forgot how to fly when they were in space, or Goku could have easily used his blasts to destroy a wall but they acted like they were trapped or something.

Android 19 was shown in Hell when he's a robot and shouldn't be there.

Vegeta magically grows his shirt back after changing from Super Saiyan 4. The whole Super 17 villain makes no sense in general.

[ABED]

For some reason I remember some episodes where Goku couldn't power up to Super Saiyan because "the energy of the world" wasn't there or something. I think this happened in the Dark Dragon saga.

I have seen it recently, and I have no idea what you're referring to.

There were also episodes where the cast for some reason forgot how to fly when they were in space+

When was this? They didn't forget how to fly, Pan was being pulled in by a star's gravity. That's the only think I can think of in regards to what you are talking about.

[GTX]

I haven't watched GT in literally 10 years, but I remember a ton of plotholes.

For some reason I remember some episodes where Goku couldn't power up to Super Saiyan because "the energy of the world" wasn't there or something. I think this happened in the Dark Dragon saga. I think this also happened when he was in Hell against Freeza and Cell? There were also episodes where the cast for some reason forgot how to fly when they were in space, or Goku could have easily used his blasts to destroy a wall but they acted like they were trapped or something.

Android 19 was shown in Hell when he's a robot and shouldn't be there.

Vegeta magically grows his shirt back after changing from Super Saiyan 4. The whole Super 17 villain makes no sense in general.

1. i dunno what do you mean. You meant the special dimension thing that even old kai cannot touch it? It was special magical dimension or spaces. It mostly has some kind of magical reality altering effect.
2. i dunno what do you mean. Though it has been answered above
3. he just have a spare robot on earth. The android go to hell/heaven or not, android 16 live again or not is not clear though in db universe. You know japan has some weird faith/ superstition about things often have soul or ghost no offense is just a possibility. factually there is no fact it was located in hell mostly it's in the city because next scene show building at the city. He was with pui pui so mostly he is in the city destroying building and make a havoc.
4. you know it's happened everywhere. this is not hentai it's called censor. It's called costume. It's like saying why the clothes is not torn every energy blast. in dbz or anime or even movie in general
5. it's make sense enough you're not clear. it's hell you know many people there it isn't limited by time and place.
I think it's clear enough

[Cetra]

I haven't watched GT in literally 10 years, but I remember a ton of plotholes.

For some reason I remember some episodes where Goku couldn't power up to Super Saiyan because "the energy of the world" wasn't there or something. I think this happened in the Dark Dragon saga. I think this also happened when he was in Hell against Freeza and Cell? There were also episodes where the cast for some reason forgot how to fly when they were in space, or Goku could have easily used his blasts to destroy a wall but they acted like they were trapped or something.

Android 19 was shown in Hell when he's a robot and shouldn't be there.

Vegeta magically grows his shirt back after changing from Super Saiyan 4. The whole Super 17 villain makes no sense in general.

I do not know what you mean by they cannot transform but even if, Kid Gokuu follows some limitations and otherworld also so there is always the possibility that such stuff is meant. But I am not even sure if what you say, did happen.
The gravity thing - ABED has it. Also flying requires Ki. Technically the characters can even be exhausted and do not enough power to fly properly or are not able to fly at all. Probably did not happen here, I just did want to at least mention it.
Also Dragon Ball Androids are constantly depicted as AIs. Constantly. The type of scifi AI, which means they are actual individuals (like Agent Smith from the Matrix for example) and that basically means they have a consciousness that stays after their death, even if their is no biological death in terms of "they have a living body". There is still a living individual inside of that. Think about it like a Horcrux from Harry Potter or the Ring of Power from Sauron. Non-biological shells that are used by an individual.

Vegeta - well. The characters magicall regrow and lose hair and stuff. Freeza magically regenerates armour. I do not see a problem with that. Maybe Super Saiyajin 4 is so powerful that it can convert energy to matter.
Super 17 makes more sense than what people always claim. I mean, he seems to be pretty non-sensical but in comparison he is not all that more non-sensical than the others.

What you can blame GT for is having a poor way of explaining.

[Deathbringer]

Yeah people overhate on DB Minus a bit too much, the Bardock special is much better of course but just because Minus is barebones and changes some things about Goku's origin (like him being sent to destroy all life on earth...except he is still sent to destroy all life earth in minus, minus just changed it so that he's sent to destroy life on earth to save him by getting him away from Freeza rather than being sent to destroy life on earth because he was actually given that mission by the Saiyans) As well as this the second half of the Bardock special can still happen after Minus, just in a different way.

Yes I would rather have minus not exist and I don't know why Toriyama felt the need to write it other than to adjust the story of Bardock to fit with the story of Jaco but people act like it's much worse than it is.

Another thing people exaggerate recently is the quality of animation in DBZ, mostly due to the average/below-average animation in DBS. You always seem to find people who are shocked at the DBS animation not because it's not very good on its own but because when compared to what DBZ was like "at the time" DBS is much worse somehow. People fail to realise that "at the time" DBZ had average/below average animation just like DBS and that both shows had episodes with slightly better animation and other episodes with slightly worse animation.

People also exaggerate Gohan "becoming a nerd" ... whenever I see comments like that I just wonder if that person was even paying attention to Gohan before the Cell games, I mean if they wanted their super "badass" version of Gohan they already got him in History of Trunks...except in that story it was really sad to see him like that having to live in a world where he had to become the strongest after everyone he knew died and he never got to live the life he wanted to live, and what was the life he wanted to live? It was the live he was living at the beginning of the Boo saga and the one he lives in at the end of the manga with his wife and daughter.

I have seen people accuse Toriyama/Toei of character assassinating Gohan and Videl in the new movies and Super, but all they're really doing is setting them up for how they are at the end of the manga, it's just that they're doing it much earlier than most of us thought they would do it (it's a very sudden change to Videl especially because she suddenly loses her attitude from the Boo saga rather than slowly becoming more like how she is at the end of the manga)

[precita]

I have seen it recently, and I have no idea what you're referring to.

Really? I could have sworn there was an episode where we see Goku struggling to power up to Super Saiyan but couldn't do it because something in the world/atmosphere that was preventing him from doing so. I remember thinking that was a stupid plothole because nothing like that should have prevented him from turning Super Saiyan.

[Hellspawn28]

I always notice that Goku had a hard time getting out of Hell in GT when he had no issues getting in and out of Hell when he went to Hell with Pikkon. Why didn't he just power up to SSj4 and teleported out of there? Not to mention the dead are immortal in GT despite Goku saying that Vegeta would be erase forever if he died again. Goku even made a big deal if Kid Buu blew up the Grand Kai planet in the filler episode of the Buu saga since they would all be erase for good.