lancerman wrote:At least you can use the logic that Goku and Vegeta preferred to save their sons, rather than kill them by proxy. And that by saving them they had 3 fighters who could easily kill Buu.
There is no logic, no need to save three fighters to kill Boo, because a Boo would not exist, if they had killed the demon while were yet fused together. Also, this goes in contrast on what happens after: Goku saves Satan but not Gohan. Then, Vegetto wasn't even sure that his barrier, and his plan, would works. I really love the saga, but that episode is really forced, as Cell's regeneration.
-Not being proactive against the Androids in the first place (but subsequently feeling that 17 and 18 were so much of a threat that they had to stop them from being released).
Who? Vegeta and Goku wanted this, and this is perfectly consistent and in line with their characters and their motives. These two are fighters who crave challenges, not heroes.
-Goku not taking his medicine for reasons...
He had no symptoms and did not know how the sickness would be manifested. Trunks told him to take the medicine after the first symptoms and that, in his timeline, had died BEFORE the appearance of the two android.
-Vegeta after being humbled by 18, being a complete arrogant moron again, and letting Cell transform (which is hilarious after how he dealt with Freeza's transformations).
Fully in character. Vegeta has always been arrogant and has never learned one single lesson. Even the humiliation suffered by Goku's Kioken x3 hinted him that should not allow the enemy to be reinforced during the fight. He is so. He likes to humiliate the enemies. Become smart and tactical only in trouble situations. His decision to instigate Freeza to transforms was much more stupid, since it was already a critical situation. With Cell, also, could not know that Cell, which was incredibly weaker than him, would become so strong (5 times according to the reference available in the manga), and wasn't aware to his regeneration's ability (to the limit, even if it had overpassed him, he could count on the Final Flash as ultimate weapon). So that, taking account of his personality and his motivation (get satisfaction) makes perfect sense.
-Kuriren not blowing up Android 18 when he had the chance.
He didn't mean to kill her for love (this has been made clear to the reader chapters and chapters before) and why not considered evil, and why Cell, at the moment, was losing against Vegeta, and the Prince could easily kill him at any moment, making unnecessary the use of controller.
-Goku not training at all and putting all his eggs in the basket of Gohan, who would have been killed had Cell not been interested in pushing Gohan's limits.
He do not train, most likely, because it considered that an additional year of training would not guarantee further improvement to its Stadium FP, also because it considers the room a torture, more than a real training. The FP,very likely, at that point of the manga had been thought to be real the limit of SSJ (a SSJ2 not existed). Nevertheless, he fights against Cell and try to defeat him with the IT-Kmehameha combo (like Vegeta he didn't know that Cell could regenerate parts of his body, especially the head).
That's a lot of convenient things happening and characters acting like idiots for the sake of the plot
Absolutely not, there is always a reason, inherent in their personality, and a logic. There many other defects, but not these.
Not to mention, that's BEFORE getting alternate timelines being used to handwave so many issues with the arc.
The timelines are not a problem, because the whole thing is easily explained with metaphysical theory of the multiverse. This is one of the many ways granted by science fiction to eliminate temporal paradoxes.
apex_pretador wrote:
and cell's motivations to be a villain
The only sensible motivation for a being created specifically to excel on all in combat. Another villain related to conquest, after Piccolo, Vegeta and Freeza, would be repetitive. Even Buu is particularly interesting for that, because he, like Cell, just wants to have fun
