"Dragon Ball Super" Bang Zoom Dub Official Discussion Thread

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Very dissatisfied by this trying to copy Funimation is the wrong move Erik Kimmerer would have been a way better choice for Goku. They made a very poor decision trying to match Funis Dub when funimation has been doing Dragonball since 98. This might end up being Bang Zooms worst Dub I'm curious to see more but very disappointed.

Nah, this is far from their worst work. Still disappointed though. That voice is way too deep, but I'll give it a chance. Those kiai were a nice touch in the scene, but I dunno how well they'll work in an actual fight. It just sounds like they're impersonating Sean Schemmel, though. -sigh-

....that Goten sounds good though.

So many ignorant people out there. Too many haters. First of all, nobody is doing any impressions of other actors. We are all friends. Because of some f'd up contracts, the original cast was unable to do the Asia and Europe version of this show. Sean Schemmel happens to be a personal friend of mine, and we talked about it before this got started. He will always be Goku in my book, but he was unable to do this version, so they cast with english speakers from the USA, (instead of just english speakers from Asia, like they normally do). So my advice to any hardcore DB fans out there: allow for this version to be what it will be. There are a lot of seasoned professionals bringing their talents to this project. And although it won't be the voices you are used to, it will be an ongoing effort to make a great show. So here's to an exciting version of this show!

Unfortunately as sangofe said we won't be able to see (hear?) the dub outside whatever clips Toonami Asia release as UK rejected Super. If you don't mind me asking but how many episodes have you guys dubbed so far?

[Super Sayian Prime]

Lex, any idea on if this version will wind up in Australia?

[trunkschan90]

I'm curious in who's going to voice who. What about Kyle, Laura, and Todd, are they able to reprise their characters in this version?

[huzaifa_ahmed]

I'm curious in who's going to voice who. What about Kyle, Laura, and Todd, are they able to reprise their characters in this version?

That'd never happen. Their contracts are to FUNi's dub for those characters. They could possibly, & likely will, be in it at some capacity, Laura aside (being that she has surpassed foreign-dubbing overall, & Trunks has a decent-ish sized role in Super). Laura hasnt done a dub in 5 years. I dont think she'd do an entirely different dub instead. Thatd make no sense. Troy Baker I'd say the same thing for. Todd Haberkorn has recently begun working with Andrea Romano, so it's sort of possible even he may be off the table in the future. I mean in general, Toei has neglected the handling of localizations/budgets, & ultimately, I think they'd prefer if we saw DB in Japanese.

That being said, contracts aside, there are a few VAs that FUNi enlists from LA on occasion, like Matthew Mercer, Johnny Yong Bosch, Patrick Seitz, & recently Alexis Tipton listed LA on her Twitter. Ian Sinclair & Brina Palencia have been working in LA from time to time as well, mostly dubs but big-ish dubs like Dead or Alive & Street Fighter 5. It's totally possible for some of those VAs to have different parts in both dubs.

I'd also sort of appreciate a small honorary cameo from Schemmel in the BZ dub, even though he categorically stated that he is not in LA to do dubs, & has only done a guest part on Naruto since his LA move. He's literally only doing Goku & only because it's a massive, massive show, & even that in mind, he's heavily underpaid for a show that did that much in ratings.

[sangofe]

Why am I quoted here? I didn't write any of this. Edit: most of us, if anyone, will be able to watch the Bang Zoom dub, unfortunately...

I think you mean "won't" instead of "will", unless you're being kind of rude.

I meant will not! The "not" just slipped for some reason...

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

It does, in fact, amusingly seem to be Lex Lang (Gohan from the Final Bout dub, actually), whom many of us were discussing just a moment ago, lol. I cannot believe it, it's his Kenshiro/Goemon voice doing a Schemmel impression (or a Nozawa impression, which comes with the matter of dubbing overall). This is insane & I cannot believe it exists.

So many ignorant people out there. Too many haters. First of all, nobody is doing any impressions of other actors. We are all friends. Because of some f'd up contracts, the original cast was unable to do the Asia and Europe version of this show. Sean Schemmel happens to be a personal friend of mine, and we talked about it before this got started. He will always be Goku in my book, but he was unable to do this version, so they cast with english speakers from the USA, (instead of just english speakers from Asia, like they normally do). So my advice to any hardcore DB fans out there: allow for this version to be what it will be. There are a lot of seasoned professionals bringing their talents to this project. And although it won't be the voices you are used to, it will be an ongoing effort to make a great show. So here's to an exciting version of this show!

Lex, I respect you as an actor, but I dislike your Goku voice. It doesn't sound anything like what Goku should sound like. That's just me though, I hope the audience in Asia really enjoys the dub while we enjoy FUNi's. We're all just a little bitter about this because Dragon Ball always gets multiple English dubs in other parts of the world so it's kind of frustrating.

[TekTheNinja]

Sorry if I'm being stupid, but how do we know that this is really Lex Lang? I mean I don't want to doubt you right away, but I like to keep reasonable doubt until I know something for sure, ya know? I mean anybody could make a Kanzenshuu account and name it LexVO.

[DBZ_Lee]

Sorry if I'm being stupid, but how do we know that this is really Lex Lang? I mean I don't want to doubt you right away, but I like to keep reasonable doubt until I know something for sure, ya know? I mean anybody could make a Kanzenshuu account and name it LexVO.

I *think* it is Lex. He posted something last night on his twitter/facebook pages saying he posted. Never said where though. I *assume* he was referring to this post.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LexLang/stat ... 2230233088

[Nejishiki]

Lex, I respect you as an actor, but I dislike your Goku voice. It doesn't sound anything like what Goku should sound like. That's just me though, I hope the audience in Asia really enjoys the dub while we enjoy FUNi's. We're all just a little bitter about this because Dragon Ball always gets multiple English dubs in other parts of the world so it's kind of frustrating.

With the exception of Toriyama casting Nozawa (and Kuririn & Yajirobe sounding similar if you wish to take it further), there's no particular guideline for how Goku should sound like. Ideally, voice actors are attempting to capture the spirit of a character and voice emulation is not a part of that process. Rather, using one element for example, it's vocal ticks and delivery that they want to properly convey, such as Goku's improper grammar or Cell's monstrous throat. Beyond that, and as long as the voice actors are well directed, foreign Goku is free to sound however he needs to be for the sake of the adaption. Faithfulness is encouraged but it's easy to forget that there's no singular road towards accuracy.

[TheBlackPaladin]

With the exception of Toriyama casting Nozawa (and Kuririn & Yajirobe sounding similar if you wish to take it further), there's no particular guideline for how Goku should sound like. Ideally, voice actors are attempting to capture the spirit of a character and voice emulation is not a part of that process. Rather, using one element for example, it's vocal ticks and delivery that they want to properly convey, such as Goku's improper grammar or Cell's monstrous throat. Beyond that, and as long as the voice actors are well directed, foreign Goku is free to sound however he needs to be for the sake of the adaption. Faithfulness is encouraged but it's easy to forget that there's no singular road towards accuracy.

Precisely. Or, to quote Peter Kelamis...

The level and emotion of the original performance is attempted to be re-created but not the voice. If I tried to re-create the original voice I think I would run the risk of hitting a note so high that I may not be able to have children in future life.

Whether it's Dragon Ball or any other show, it has never been important to me at all that the dub actor be a "vocal clone" of the original performer.

Furthermore, one clip is never enough for me to make an informed judgement on a performance for better or for worse. For those of you who weren't around for when Kai first started airing on Nicktoons, you might be surprised to learn that the initial reaction to Chris Ayres as Freeza was based on one clip, only for pretty much everyone here to do a full 180--for the better--once they heard more dialogue out of him. So, I can only speak for myself, but I'm withholding judgement on every single performance--in both dubs--until I hear more of them. Whatever your opinions on these dubs, there's no lack of effort or lack of care on the part of those involved. All involved want to make a great show.

[ConfusedPhantom]

Very dissatisfied by this trying to copy Funimation is the wrong move Erik Kimmerer would have been a way better choice for Goku. They made a very poor decision trying to match Funis Dub when funimation has been doing Dragonball since 98. This might end up being Bang Zooms worst Dub I'm curious to see more but very disappointed.

Nah, this is far from their worst work. Still disappointed though. That voice is way too deep, but I'll give it a chance. Those kiai were a nice touch in the scene, but I dunno how well they'll work in an actual fight. It just sounds like they're impersonating Sean Schemmel, though. -sigh-

....that Goten sounds good though.

So many ignorant people out there. Too many haters. First of all, nobody is doing any impressions of other actors. We are all friends. Because of some f'd up contracts, the original cast was unable to do the Asia and Europe version of this show. Sean Schemmel happens to be a personal friend of mine, and we talked about it before this got started. He will always be Goku in my book, but he was unable to do this version, so they cast with english speakers from the USA, (instead of just english speakers from Asia, like they normally do). So my advice to any hardcore DB fans out there: allow for this version to be what it will be. There are a lot of seasoned professionals bringing their talents to this project. And although it won't be the voices you are used to, it will be an ongoing effort to make a great show. So here's to an exciting version of this show!

Well, that was the last thing I expected out of my notifications.

Anyway, I apologize for assuming that back when I watched that promo. I was expecting something a hundred percent different, but when your voice did the falsetto thing when Goku was happy, your voice kinda went to the same place as Sean Schemmel does whenever he does happy Goku and occasionally in other places, which gave me the impression that it was despite how different your voice was. But, it's just a Goku thing and I probably just needed the full episode to get the feel that it was your take. I shouldn't of jumped the gun like that. It makes me happy that you guys are making your version your own though. Hopefully people outside of those areas can see it one day.

[NitroEX]

Sorry if I'm being stupid, but how do we know that this is really Lex Lang?

For what it's worth, I sent him a private DM over Twitter yesterday and he confirmed that it was indeed him. He also left a public tweet around the same time (which someone else already mentioned) that alludes to his post here.

Lex, I respect you as an actor, but I dislike your Goku voice. It doesn't sound anything like what Goku should sound like.

Mr. Lang, I don't mean to offend you as I am a big fan of your work, but from the dub promos, it just sounds like you're doing a Schemmel impression and I don't think you're the best choice for Goku.

Nice going guys. With insightful critiques like these I'm sure he'll want to stick around

I for one am hoping Mr. Lang can provide us with some info on who some of the other cast members are. I'm also quite intrigued by the "f'd up contracts" that he mentioned. I'm dying to know more about how this dub came about.

[TekTheNinja]

Sorry if I'm being stupid, but how do we know that this is really Lex Lang?

For what it's worth, I sent him a private DM over Twitter yesterday and he confirmed that it was indeed him. He also left a public tweet around the same time (which someone else already mentioned) that alludes to his post here.

Oh, I see. Thanks.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Sorry if I'm being stupid, but how do we know that this is really Lex Lang?

For what it's worth, I sent him a private DM over Twitter yesterday and he confirmed that it was indeed him. He also left a public tweet around the same time (which someone else already mentioned) that alludes to his post here.

Lex, I respect you as an actor, but I dislike your Goku voice. It doesn't sound anything like what Goku should sound like.

Mr. Lang, I don't mean to offend you as I am a big fan of your work, but from the dub promos, it just sounds like you're doing a Schemmel impression and I don't think you're the best choice for Goku.

Nice going guys. With insightful critiques like these I'm sure he'll want to stick around

I for one am hoping Mr. Lang can provide us with some info on who some of the other cast members are. I'm also quite intrigued by the "f'd up contracts" that he mentioned. I'm dying to know more about how this dub came about.

Nice of you to misquote me dude, I can respect an actor but be honest when I don't like their role. Lex wasn't sugarcoating what he said so why should I? Look, Lex is a perfectly fine actor but I don't like his Goku voice, it's not like I told the guy to fuck off or anything.

[NintendoBlaze53]

For once can Kanzenshuu not disrespect a Voice Actor on these forums? Lex took the time to come to a Dragon Ball fansite and check see what people are saying. Most VA's wouldn't bother, but it seems Lex wanted to get to know the community he is now a voice actor for. Maybe this time we'll have a VA stick around on these forums, though based on what's already been said and what's happened in the past I unfortunately doubt it.

[8000 Saiyan]

Sorry if I'm being stupid, but how do we know that this is really Lex Lang?

For what it's worth, I sent him a private DM over Twitter yesterday and he confirmed that it was indeed him. He also left a public tweet around the same time (which someone else already mentioned) that alludes to his post here.

Lex, I respect you as an actor, but I dislike your Goku voice. It doesn't sound anything like what Goku should sound like.

Mr. Lang, I don't mean to offend you as I am a big fan of your work, but from the dub promos, it just sounds like you're doing a Schemmel impression and I don't think you're the best choice for Goku.

Nice going guys. With insightful critiques like these I'm sure he'll want to stick around

I for one am hoping Mr. Lang can provide us with some info on who some of the other cast members are. I'm also quite intrigued by the "f'd up contracts" that he mentioned. I'm dying to know more about how this dub came about.

I don't think I was being rude to Lang. I was just telling him how I felt about his performance.

[LexVO]

Sorry if I'm being stupid, but how do we know that this is really Lex Lang? I mean I don't want to doubt you right away, but I like to keep reasonable doubt until I know something for sure, ya know? I mean anybody could make a Kanzenshuu account and name it LexVO.

It's really me.

[jelleline89]

I don't care if it's Lex Lang, Sean Schemmel, or even Donald Trump. People shouldn't be expected to stay silent if they don't like a certain actor or actress' performance just because said actor or actress joins the discussion. I realize it's a weird situation where Lex Lang is taking on a new role others have done before him, but that doesn't change the fact that his performance wasn't pleasing to some users here, including myself. It's not the worst I've heard to be honest, but still pretty unsettling.

If Lex Lang is willing to share some behind the scene information about this dub, he's more than welcome to. But he has absolutely no right to get upset if he doesn't win over every one with his performance. Entertainment is constantly met with critics, good and bad. The moment that needs to be censored, that's when there's a serious problem.

[8000 Saiyan]

Sorry if I'm being stupid, but how do we know that this is really Lex Lang? I mean I don't want to doubt you right away, but I like to keep reasonable doubt until I know something for sure, ya know? I mean anybody could make a Kanzenshuu account and name it LexVO.

It's really me.

Lex, one question if you don't mind. Are you allowed to provide information on who are the other cast members?

[LexVO]

Lex, one question if you don't mind. Are you allowed to provide information on who are the other cast members?

If I knew more I could, but we work alone, so I haven't "bumped into other cast members"

I don't care if it's Lex Lang, Sean Schemmel, or even Donald Trump. People shouldn't be expected to stay silent if they don't like a certain actor or actress' performance just because said actor or actress joins the discussion. I realize it's a weird situation where Lex Lang is taking on a new role others have done before him, but that doesn't change the fact that his performance wasn't pleading to some users here, including myself.

If Lex Lang is willing to share some behind the scene information about this dub, he's more than welcome to. But he has absolutely no right to get upset if he doesn't win over every one with his performance. Entertainment is constantly met with critics, good and bad. The moment that needs to be censored, that's when there's a serious problem.

I'm not upset if you are not thrilled with anyone's performances, Including my own. What I find alarming is the degree of judgment that came from many people from just a sneak preview with only 2 or 3 lines of dialog and a few efforts.

Just so everyone is aware what we are going for with the character of Goku is a purity, an innocence, good hearted, cheerful energetic nature, with a love for competition and food, and an underlying ferocity driven by his anger and determination when being challenged or seeking vengeance. You can't please all of the people all of the time, I suppose.