What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by GreatSaiyaJeff » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:08 pm

Yeah with 40 fighters left, Tien I can imagine will take one or two more out before he gets eliminated
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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

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Post by precita » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:06 pm

That's still not much though, you know most of the ep will be Gohan/Piccolo or Goku/Vegeta centered.

Tien really needs one full episode dedicated to him like Krillin and Roshi got.

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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:33 pm

How big of a pinch will it be that they need all three? Interesting.
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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by Basako » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:01 pm

precita wrote:That's still not much though, you know most of the ep will be Gohan/Piccolo or Goku/Vegeta centered.

Tien really needs one full episode dedicated to him like Krillin and Roshi got.
And why do you say it's centered in all except Ten? I mean, Gohan and Piccolo are defenseles against a sniper they can't sense and Goku, Vegeta and Tenshinhan go to help. It won't be a one fighter centric, but saying it will be centered in all except Ten sounds kind of biased against him.

He may not have a centric in the end, definitively not one like Roshi, who got one all for him and just him. 17 and Gohan had partials and Krilin shared some room with 18. I think Piccolo will get his with the namekians. 18 is the other I don't see having a centric, but maybe she will share one with 17.
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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by Shinda Forever » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:27 am

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
ShinTenshin wrote:Tenshinhan will help to beat a strong guy that clearly give some difficulty to Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and Piccolo so.... I'm thinking Toriyama will give him special abilities with his 3rd Eye, allow him to see invinsible thing, by this way he can help to beat fearsome opponents. I totally see him beating the 2 Brothers of U4, they will probably fuse to be the strongest fighter of U4. Toshio say he will have a moment comparable to the fight against Cell.
Sooo he will hold someone back for 7 seconds before his entire effort is rendered useless and hes eliminated?
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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:43 pm

Oh, poor Tien.

Eliminates just one person, barely fights after that and then takes another character out of bounds while getting eliminated himself as well. He had a terrible showing in this tournament. Toriyama had nothing special planned for that guy.

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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:46 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Oh, poor Tien.

Eliminates just one person, barely fights after that and then takes another character out of bounds while getting eliminated himself as well. He had a terrible showing in this tournament. Toriyama had nothing special planned for that guy.
While this was he only solo takedown he has team worked another fighter so he's got a score of 2 in my book.

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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by Hakaishin Liquir » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:49 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Oh, poor Tien.

Eliminates just one person, barely fights after that and then takes another character out of bounds while getting eliminated himself as well. He had a terrible showing in this tournament. Toriyama had nothing special planned for that guy.
Tien got trolled so much in this arc. First he got trolled by Roshi in his recruitment episode, then he got trolled in episode 90 by Gohan, and then he got trolled by Harmira (but at least he got to troll him back).

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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by blackbewhite2k7 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:49 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Oh, poor Tien.

Eliminates just one person, barely fights after that and then takes another character out of bounds while getting eliminated himself as well. He had a terrible showing in this tournament. Toriyama had nothing special planned for that guy.
I'd say thats still a much better showing than literally half the contestants in this whole tourney

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Lord Frieza wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Oh, poor Tien.

Eliminates just one person, barely fights after that and then takes another character out of bounds while getting eliminated himself as well. He had a terrible showing in this tournament. Toriyama had nothing special planned for that guy.
While this was he only solo takedown he has team worked another fighter so he's got a score of 2 in my book.
I 2nd That, he has a Team-Up Take-down and a Solo Self-Sacrifice Takedown, so that is 2 For Tien! 8)
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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:04 pm

I can't imagine why Toei would drop the ball so hard with Tien this entire arc. I hope Toyotaro gives him more to do in the manga, but I have a feeling his role will be just a limited, if not more so. I mean, given the fact that Future Trunks played a backseat role for 90% of plot in his own arc in the manga version of the Future Trunks arc, makes me think that Toriyama didn't give him much to do in the original plot outline and Toei went out of their way to make him a more central figure in the arc in the anime. And considering Tien was already a minor side character, I wouldn't be surprised if he's shown in a few panels and then eliminated.

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Post by Totamo » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:10 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:I can't imagine why Toei would drop the ball so hard with Tien this entire arc. I hope Toyotaro gives him more to do in the manga, but I have a feeling his role will be just a limited, if not more so. I mean, given the fact that Future Trunks played a backseat role for 90% of plot in his own arc in the manga version of the Future Trunks arc, makes me think that Toriyama didn't give him much to do in the original plot outline and Toei went out of their way to make him a more central figure in the arc in the anime. And considering Tien was already a minor side character, I wouldn't be surprised if he's shown in a few panels and then eliminated.
Like I said before, Toriyama's plotlines seem very vague, including character actions and personalities.


How things get to point a to point b is not done by toriyama, the most important part of a story.

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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by Whatever » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:14 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:I can't imagine why Toei would drop the ball so hard with Tien this entire arc. I hope Toyotaro gives him more to do in the manga, but I have a feeling his role will be just a limited, if not more so. I mean, given the fact that Future Trunks played a backseat role for 90% of plot in his own arc in the manga version of the Future Trunks arc, makes me think that Toriyama didn't give him much to do in the original plot outline and Toei went out of their way to make him a more central figure in the arc in the anime. And considering Tien was already a minor side character, I wouldn't be surprised if he's shown in a few panels and then eliminated.
Lol Toyo giving someone that is not named Goku or Vegeta some credibility.You forgot how much worse he treated Piccolo that the anime did?
This is the same person that downgrades the antagonists/villain so he could wank Goku and Vegeta(more Vegeta if anything).

Honestly i am surprised that hope exists.
Granted i will be more than happy to be proven wrong on this one but considering his history then yeah...

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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:19 pm

Totamo wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I can't imagine why Toei would drop the ball so hard with Tien this entire arc. I hope Toyotaro gives him more to do in the manga, but I have a feeling his role will be just a limited, if not more so. I mean, given the fact that Future Trunks played a backseat role for 90% of plot in his own arc in the manga version of the Future Trunks arc, makes me think that Toriyama didn't give him much to do in the original plot outline and Toei went out of their way to make him a more central figure in the arc in the anime. And considering Tien was already a minor side character, I wouldn't be surprised if he's shown in a few panels and then eliminated.
Like I said before, Toriyama's plotlines seem very vague, including character actions and personalities.


How things get to point a to point b is not done by toriyama, the most important part of a story.
With a tournament that has so many characters with so many different abilities, I can't for the life of me imagine that Toriyama's plot outline would still be so vague with regards to get from plot point A to plot point B like previous arc. I mean, for an arc like the Universal Survivial arc, Toei and Toyotaro need much more work with from Toriyama for this arc to live to its potential. If Toriyama is still giving barebones details to for both Toei and Toyotaro, then that's really concerning.

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Lord Beerus wrote:I can't imagine why Toei would drop the ball so hard with Tien this entire arc. I hope Toyotaro gives him more to do in the manga, but I have a feeling his role will be just a limited, if not more so. I mean, given the fact that Future Trunks played a backseat role for 90% of plot in his own arc in the manga version of the Future Trunks arc, makes me think that Toriyama didn't give him much to do in the original plot outline and Toei went out of their way to make him a more central figure in the arc in the anime. And considering Tien was already a minor side character, I wouldn't be surprised if he's shown in a few panels and then eliminated.
Lol Toyo giving someone that is not named Goku or Vegeta some credibility.You forgot how much worse he treated Piccolo that the anime did?
This is the same person that downgrades the antagonists/villain so he could wank Goku and Vegeta(more Vegeta if anything).

Honestly i am surprised that hope exists.
Granted i will be more than happy to be proven wrong on this one but considering his history then yeah...
Piccolo is a loser in both version no matter what how long his figth was,he was worthless in the narrative like piccolo in namek,it all depend in the outline, by looking at Tien performance, AT didn't care him
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Post by Rhuagh » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:24 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:I can't imagine why Toei would drop the ball so hard with Tien this entire arc. I hope Toyotaro gives him more to do in the manga, but I have a feeling his role will be just a limited, if not more so. I mean, given the fact that Future Trunks played a backseat role for 90% of plot in his own arc in the manga version of the Future Trunks arc, makes me think that Toriyama didn't give him much to do in the original plot outline and Toei went out of their way to make him a more central figure in the arc in the anime. And considering Tien was already a minor side character, I wouldn't be surprised if he's shown in a few panels and then eliminated.
Kibito and Shin had much bigger roles in the manga. Same can and will happen with other characters in this arc, and maybe Tenshinhan will be one of those, maybe not. One thing is sure, Tenshinhan can hardly be more disappoiting than he was in the anime. What a waste.

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Post by The gr » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:27 pm

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With a tournament that has so many characters with so many different abilities, I can't for the life of me imagine that Toriyama's plot outline would still be so vague with regards to get from plot point A to plot point B like previous arc. I mean, for an arc like the Universal Survivial arc, Toei and Toyotaro need much more work with from Toriyama for this arc to live to its potential. If Toriyama is still giving barebones details to for both Toei and Toyotaro, then that's really concerning.
his outline is still vague because an interview mention that IIRC, u9 being erased first is totally an AT idea along with Roshi role
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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by ShinTenshin » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:44 pm

Tenshinhan eliminate a powerful opponent to protect Gohan and Piccolo of an elimination. The Sniper's shot is similar to Makankosappo (Piccolo said it). So Tenshinhan most likely save the day, not so bad.
The Sniper from U2 really humiliate Gohan.
It's a great fight for Tenshinhan, beat a guy stronger than Piccolo.

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Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Post by Whatever » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:05 pm

The gr wrote:
Whatever wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I can't imagine why Toei would drop the ball so hard with Tien this entire arc. I hope Toyotaro gives him more to do in the manga, but I have a feeling his role will be just a limited, if not more so. I mean, given the fact that Future Trunks played a backseat role for 90% of plot in his own arc in the manga version of the Future Trunks arc, makes me think that Toriyama didn't give him much to do in the original plot outline and Toei went out of their way to make him a more central figure in the arc in the anime. And considering Tien was already a minor side character, I wouldn't be surprised if he's shown in a few panels and then eliminated.
Lol Toyo giving someone that is not named Goku or Vegeta some credibility.You forgot how much worse he treated Piccolo that the anime did?
This is the same person that downgrades the antagonists/villain so he could wank Goku and Vegeta(more Vegeta if anything).

Honestly i am surprised that hope exists.
Granted i will be more than happy to be proven wrong on this one but considering his history then yeah...
Piccolo is a loser in both version no matter what how long his figth was,he was worthless in the narrative like piccolo in namek,it all depend in the outline, by looking at Tien performance, AT didn't care him
Frost had no reason to use the poison needle on Piccolo in the manga since he was winning and Piccolo saved Goku in namek so he was usefull there.

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