Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:56 pm

My problem with it is the fact that he takes everything so seriously and is so high and mighty about stuff, like he knows best, even better than Toriyama himself.
If he took it jokingly, I could even swallow Yajirobe kicking all kinds of ass, heck, I would welcome that!
LOL of course he high and might. He said DBM is more canon than DBGT! He think he's the best author for anything DB related. I bet if Akira told him that DBM sucked he would say DBM > Original DB manga. I'm not a fan of his plot logic. Bra being over powered is complete bullshit. I understand if she was stronger due to her father being Vegetto but her power is way o high. Future Gohan SSJ(Was he SSJ2?) being Dabura power is just "WHAT THE FUCK?". I just can't gasp some of his ideas. I could deal with the logic issues if he didn't treat them like fact. Broly gaining power every minute or second was a fan made thing. He states it's fact in the DBM comment section. I also think Vegetto should't have gotten so strong. He was already strong enough without Saglair's haxed but his power increase is way to high. He thinks DBGT is bullshit and DBM is more canon yet he's doing the same or even more bullshit than DBz.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:59 pm

Vegito1089 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Just out of curiosity. In one of the comments on the DB pages(From a long time ago like 2009ish maybe longer) Salagir said said DBM is more canon then DBGT. Was that discussed here. I'm remember it being heavily discussed on Byond, Youtube, and the comments sections of DBM. I wasn't a member(nor did I hear of) Kanzenshuu at the time but was it discuss here?
Oh please give me the page number on where that was stated on DBM or on this thread. :D
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:03 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Vegito1089 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Just out of curiosity. In one of the comments on the DB pages(From a long time ago like 2009ish maybe longer) Salagir said said DBM is more canon then DBGT. Was that discussed here. I'm remember it being heavily discussed on Byond, Youtube, and the comments sections of DBM. I wasn't a member(nor did I hear of) Kanzenshuu at the time but was it discuss here?
Oh please give me the page number on where that was stated on DBM or on this thread. :D
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Yes. As I said it was discussed in the comments section, youtube, and BYOND dbz games(gaming site). Mostly from byond through.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:04 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Yes. As I said it was discussed in the comments section, youtube, and BYOND dbz games(gaming site). Mostly from byond through.
Being discussed is one thing, him actually have said it is another thing. Until someone can produce an actual quote from him with source, I'm holding my judgement.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Storm101 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:05 pm

Are you guys sure he was even serious when he said that? Sounds like something you'd say as a joke.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:07 pm

DNA wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Yes. As I said it was discussed in the comments section, youtube, and BYOND dbz games(gaming site). Mostly from byond through.
Being discussed is one thing, him actually have said it is another thing. Until someone can produce an actual quote from him with source, I'm holding my judgement.
Understandable.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:49 pm

Well, Nostal's defined canon as how true something is to the series (in other words, lacking continuity errors) and I'm totally generalising just because he and Salagir are both French but maybe they have a different idea of canon over there? That'd make what Salagir said sound a lot less insane. Although it's probably still wrong.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:57 pm

"Tarble, Vegeta's brother, isn't canon." http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/faq.html

He should fix that LOL :lol:

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Post by Saiga » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:04 pm

No, he shouldn't. He already explained his definition of canon.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:06 pm

Saiga wrote:No, he shouldn't. He already explained his definition of canon.
Didn't Tarble get his own manga. Plus didn't Akira say BoG is part of the manga franchise and BoG mentioned Tarble.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:07 pm

People seem to like disregarding BoG just because they don't like it.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:09 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:People seem to like disregarding BoG just because they don't like it.
I hated it but I still don't disregard it. That's just sad. Just because you don't like ti doesn't mean you just ignore and say it never happen.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:09 pm

Or maybe because BoG isn't part of the manga?
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:10 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Or maybe because BoG isn't part of the manga?
Didn't Akira say that BoG is part of the Manga Franchise.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:12 pm

BoG is a movie. A film. Not a comic.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:13 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:BoG is a movie. A film. Not a comic.
No...not like that. Like it's part of Manga timeline or something like that. I remember it being on this website that Akira said it was part of manga franchise

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:15 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:BoG is a movie. A film. Not a comic.
BoG is directly connected to the manga by Toriyama himself. Toriyama stated Beers reduced Kaio's planet size in the manga. It's also stated that this is part of the official history, it's also stated this is something that can be enjoyed by anime and manga fan alike. Toriyama was heavily involved with the story, as stated by himself. He designed SSJ God. I could go on.
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Post by Saiga » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:16 pm

I don't disregard BoG because I hate it, it's simply a fact that it isn't part of the original manga. And I'm talking literally, not in the sense of it being part of the franchise or timelines or what-have-you.

Salagir defined his canon the same way I define mine.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:17 pm

Saiga wrote:I don't disregard BoG because I hate it, it's simply a fact that it isn't part of the original manga. And I'm talking literally, not in the sense of it being part of the franchise or timelines or what-have-you.

Salagir defined his canon the same way I define mine.
So you don't think BoG is canon?

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Post by Saiga » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:17 pm

Nope.
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