The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[dbzfan7]

Anyways, let's move on.

ANOTHER SET OF MATCH UPS!

Cell Games MSSJ/FPSSJ Goku VS Dabura

Cui VS Saiyan Saga Goku (He basically fights Cui instead of Vegeta and Nappa)

First Form Freeza VS Piccolo (newly arrived on Namek, pre-Nail fusion)

Popo and Kami VS Saiyan Saga Yajirobe (No sword)

Nail VS Captain Ginyu newly inside Goku's body (Namek Saga)

Mecha Freeza, King Cold, and Cooler VS Newly transformed SSJ Future Trunks (his first time transforming into a SSJ)

Android 16 VS Full Power Kogu

Youthful Lord Slug VS Ginyu Force (no time stop or body change)

Great Ape Tullece (post-fruits) VS 3rd Form Freeza

Videl VS Colonel Silver

King Piccolo VS 23rd WMAT Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Krillin, and Chiaotzu

Mercenary Tao VS Spike the Devilman (no devilmite beam)

Dabura to me is at least Perfect Cell level or comparable, so I think he beats Goku.

I think Goku would win since I don't see Cui as tough as Vegeta or as resilient. Less skilled too.

Freeza stomps. Piccolo wasn't anything too special before fusing.

Yajirobe I think may have this after training.

Nail stomps since Ginyu in Goku's body was really weak.

Cooler I think is enough to win that fight. Team 1 stomps.

Kogu stomps. I have the Bojack underlings at least comparable to a Cell Junior, probably weaker, but still more than a match for 16

Slug Stomps. Slug is comparable to Freeza.

I think Tullece has it considering he could stomp Kaio-Ken x10 Goku rather easily who is 300,000 I think. So as an Oozaru he'd probably beat Freeza 3rd form.

I guess Videl cause she seems like a big deal for humans who aren't super human.

Together they might be able to beat Daimao. Tenshinhan could Mafuba Daimao if things go wrong.

I dunno...I guess Akuman might have put up a better fight than Tao Pai Pai did to Goku....though the7 both got stomped so...um...Akuman I guess.

[Darkron2151]

Anyways, let's move on.

ANOTHER SET OF MATCH UPS!

Cell Games MSSJ/FPSSJ Goku VS Dabura

Cui VS Saiyan Saga Goku (He basically fights Cui instead of Vegeta and Nappa)

First Form Freeza VS Piccolo (newly arrived on Namek, pre-Nail fusion)

Popo and Kami VS Saiyan Saga Yajirobe (No sword)

Nail VS Captain Ginyu newly inside Goku's body (Namek Saga)

Mecha Freeza, King Cold, and Cooler VS Newly transformed SSJ Future Trunks (his first time transforming into a SSJ)

Android 16 VS Full Power Kogu

Youthful Lord Slug VS Ginyu Force (no time stop or body change)

Great Ape Tullece (post-fruits) VS 3rd Form Freeza

Videl VS Colonel Silver

King Piccolo VS 23rd WMAT Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Krillin, and Chiaotzu

Mercenary Tao VS Spike the Devilman (no devilmite beam)

1. Dabura, easily.
2. If Goku can sustain a Kaio-Ken x3, then Cui get's wrecked.
3. Freeza, easily. Nail said Piccolo was no match unless they fused, and that was before Freeza first transformed.
4. Yajirobe gets mafuba'd.
5. Nail doesn't seem like that type to mess around, especially against the same people who nearly wiped out his entire race. So I give Ginyu 10 seconds. If he can't find out how to control Goku's power by then, he's done for.
6. Future Trunks, when he first transformed, couldn't even match base Future Gohan when sparring. Mecha Freeza stomps using only 3% of his power.
7. I like having the Bojack Gang similar power, if not a bit weaker, to the Cell Juniors, so i'll give this to Gokua. I'll ignore the little scuffle between him and Base Trunks, due to Tenshinhan also going toe to toe with him. So I would have Gokua at least Semi-Cell level.
8. I honestly don't know how strong Slug is . I know for a fact though that he's WAAAAAAY stronger than the Ginyu Force. Probably low-Freeza level to me.
9. Tullece stomps. At the very LEAST, his power would be around 3,000,000 in Great Ape, which is Namek Goku level.
10. Not a clue.
11. Z-Gang takes this with teamwork.
12. Not a clue.

[Angelus]

Thanks for the input, guys!!

It's quiet again so that means...

ANOTHER SET OF MATCH UPS!!!


Pre-Nail Fusion Piccolo VS Ginyu Force (No time stop or body change)

Transformed Hirudegarn VS Meta-Rilldo

SSJ Namek Goku VS Final Form Cooler

Android 16 VS Meta-Cooler

Hatchiyak VS Pikkon

Culture Fluid Bio-Broly VS Cell Jr

Dr. Myuu VS Android 20

Hell Fighter 17 VS Super Android 13

Super Mega Cannon Sigma VS Base Gotenks (pre-ROSAT)

Future Gohan (one-arm) VS present Android 18

ENJOY!

[ZombieVito]

Perfect Cell (Full power) vs SSJ1 Vegeta (BoG).

[dbzfan7]

Thanks for the input, guys!!

It's quiet again so that means...

ANOTHER SET OF MATCH UPS!!!


Pre-Nail Fusion Piccolo VS Ginyu Force (No time stop or body change)

Transformed Hirudegarn VS Meta-Rilldo

SSJ Namek Goku VS Final Form Cooler

Android 16 VS Meta-Cooler

Hatchiyak VS Paikuhan

Culture Fluid Bio-Broly VS Cell Jr

Dr. Myuu VS Android 20

Hell Fighter 17 VS Super Android 13

Super Mega Cannon Sigma VS Base Gotenks (pre-ROSAT)

Future Gohan (one-arm) VS present Android 18

ENJOY!

Ginyu Force, specifically Ginyu himself. I don't think Piccolo was insanely strong after training on Kaio's, just strong by Namek standards.

Meta Rilid. I'd say he's much stronger.

Cooler has this. I think he's somewhat stronger.

16. Though if Meta Cooler is given adaptive time he could possibly overcome 16...though I'd say a single Meta Cooler looses.

Paikuhan as long as it's not Super Hatchiyack.

I think Broly after a tough fight.

I guess 20 since Myuu has no feats I'm aware of.

Hell Fighter since he fought Vegeta...and GT scaling makes him very powerful.

I think the Sigma Cannon guys win.

18 wrecks his shit.

Perfect Cell (Full power) vs SSJ1 Vegeta (BoG).

I'm inclined to go with Vegeta. I think he'd be enough. Especially if the powers of bullshit come up.

[Angelus]

Cool, that was quick! Thanks!

HERE'S ANOTHER FEW THEN!

Chilled VS End of Z Krillin

Aka VS Mr. Buu

Salza VS Pui Pui

Bido VS Buu Saga Piccolo

Cyborg Tao VS Grandpa Gohan

Raditz (with no scouter) VS 100 See-Through the Invisible Man-- no tail grabbing, no ki blasts, no flying, no saiyan armor on

Tarble VS Saibaman

Android 13 VS Future Gohan (one-arm)

Yakon VS Android 14

Mecha Frieza and King Cold VS Sick SSJ Goku (Heart disease started, Androids Saga, around the time he fought Android 19)

Android 15 VS Final Form Cooler

[singsing]

I'm inclined to go with Vegeta. I think he'd be enough. Especially if the powers of bullshit come up.

When powers of bullshit come up he's stronger than his own fusion.

[dbzfan7]

Cool, that was quick! Thanks!

HERE'S ANOTHER FEW THEN!

Chilled VS End of Z Krillin

Aka VS Mr. Buu

Salza VS Pui Pui

Bido VS Buu Saga Piccolo

Cyborg Tao VS Grandpa Gohan

Raditz (with no scouter) VS 100 See-Through the Invisible Man-- no tail grabbing, no ki blasts, no flying, no saiyan armor on

Tarble VS Saibaman

Android 13 VS Future Gohan (one-arm)

Yakon VS Android 14

Mecha Freeza and King Cold VS Sick SSJ Goku (Heart disease started, Androids Saga, around the time he fought Android 19)

Android 15 VS Final Form Cooler

Probably Krillin. Bardock is relatively weak now according to Toriyama so we throw out that 10,000 number. Chilled I can't see even matching 1st form Freeza, and Krillin I think would be in the low millions.

Mr. Boo crushes him.

Salza as I don't go by the V Jump number and believe he's at least around the low millions since he owned Gohan post Namek. Though Pui Pui is a wild card since he's just fodder to base saiyans, so really he can be placed anywhere. But I go with Salza since Pui Pui made a big deal out of 10x earths gravity.

I think Piccolo can do it as he kinda pushed Bojack around a bit. Sure Bojack wasn't trying his hardest, but still he didn't do too bad. So I think he can beat Bido with some difficulty.

Cyborg Tao Pai Pai stomps. He's much more powerful at this time.

Raditz. I doubt the Invisible men could even hurt Raditz.

I think Tarble can maybe handle 1...but I have him weaker than Nappa since he was a disgrace according to Vegeta. Could be argued he's weaker, but I'll throw em a bone.

13 wins. I have 13 stronger than future cyborgs and he seemed to be beating SSJ Goku who should at least be as strong as his Yardrat self, and more likely stronger. Yardrat Goku is above Future Trunks who was above Future Gohan.

Gonna go with 14. He gave SSJ Vegeta a good fight and I have Yakon below Freeza full power.

I think 15. Cooler was fodder to 1 year post Namek SSJ Goku. I think 15 put up a little fight to SSJ Trunks as 14 gave SSJ Vegeta a really good fight. Cooler at this point would probably be fodder to this SSJ Vegeta and SSJ Trunks.

[Angelus]

Interesting! Makes me wonder why the heck Babidi even bothered to go for Pui Pui and Yakon at the first place. And to think Supreme Kai was so impressed by their reputation.

ONE LAST SET OF MATCH UPS FOR THE EVENING, THEN!


Future Android 18 VS SSJ Future Trunks with sword (the day he returned to the present timeline and found Android 19's severed head)

Dr. Wheelo VS Transformed Zarbon

Beerus VS 7 Shadow Dragons, Super 17, Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta, Meta-Rilldo, Luud, Android 19 and Android 20 (19 and 20 only focus on getting a chance to grab Berrus to drain his power)

Bido, Bujin, Kogu, and Zangya (all transformed) VS Dabura (no spitting, no sword)

Future Gohan (one-arm) VS Android 19

Blonde Launch (no guns) VS Bear Thief (no sword)

Mr. Satan VS Bruce Lee Impersonator

MUSCLE HEAD 4-WAY FREE FOR ALL RUMBLE! Android 16 VS Mystic Recoome VS Olibu VS Movie 8 LSSJ Broly

FANTASY INSANITY MATCH! Naked Android 18 and Future Android 18 VS Post-Cell Games plain SSJ Future Trunks (but using only 30% of power; also naked)

[Galan007]

Interesting! Makes me wonder why the heck Babidi even bothered to go for Pui Pui and Yakon at the first place. And to think Supreme Kai was so impressed by their reputation.

ONE LAST SET OF MATCH UPS FOR THE EVENING, THEN!


Future Android 18 VS SSJ Future Trunks with sword (the day he returned to the present timeline and found Android 19's severed head)

Dr. Wheelo VS Transformed Zarbon

Beerus VS 7 Shadow Dragons, Super 17, Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta, Meta-Rilldo, Luud, Android 19 and Android 20 (19 and 20 only focus on getting a chance to grab Berrus to drain his power)

Bido, Bujin, Kogu, and Zangya (all transformed) VS Dabura (no spitting, no sword)

Future Gohan (one-arm) VS Android 19

The Androids were still solidly above Trunks at that point. #18 wins.

Wheelo~/<Saiyan Saga Vegeta. Transformed Zarbon stomps.

The GT team wtf!stomps. Why? GT multipliers... 'nuff said.

Dabra was around Perfect Cell's level. He should be able to steamroll this team w/o much effort.

Gohan starts off more powerful imo, but if he lets #19 absorb his blasts, and/or physically grab him, the tables could very well turn.

[Angelus]

Thanks for answering!


NOW SOME MORE!

Android 16 VS Imperfect Cell (if the fight actually continued)

Cell Games Piccolo VS ASSJ Future Trunks (pre 2nd day ROSAT)

Transformed Bido, Kogu, Zangya, Bujin VS 4 Cell Jr.s

Future Android 18 VS SSJ Vegeta (Androids saga)

Future Android 17 VS SSJ Future Trunks (with sword) and SSJ Future Gohan (one-handed)

Pan (start of GT) VS SSJ Future Gohan (two-handed)

Android 14 VS Android 19 and 20

[Super SaiyaJon]

Oh boy, time to give this VS thing a shot.

Android 16 VS Imperfect Cell (if the fight actually continued)

Cell Games Piccolo VS ASSJ Future Trunks (pre 2nd day ROSAT)

Transformed Bido, Kogu, Zangya, Bujin VS 4 Cell Jr.s

Future Android 18 VS SSJ Vegeta (Androids saga)

Future Android 17 VS SSJ Future Trunks (with sword) and SSJ Future Gohan (one-handed)

Pan (start of GT) VS SSJ Future Gohan (two-handed)

Android 14 VS Android 19 and 20

Imperfect Cell wins, but not easily.

I think Piccolo has this one.

I believe the Cell Jrs to be more powerful than Bojak's gang, so Cell Jrs take this with slight/moderate difficulty.

Future 18 wins. Although Vegeta is a bit stronger than Future Trunks, Vegeta still isn't strong enough to win, considering how useless Future Trunks was against the Future Androids.

Android 17 wins, though not too easily.

SSJ Future Gohan beats Pan very easily, if not with a one-shot.

I'm giving this one to 14. 14 was far weaker than SSJ, but he did at least deal damage to SSJ Trunks. Considering how easily 19 was defeated by SSJ Vegeta, and considering 20 isn't much stronger than 19, 14 should win, but it will be very difficult.

[Angelus]

Oh! I actually thought that Future Android 18 being weaker than present Android 18 would fill in the gap for SSJ Vegeta to win because Vegeta actually stood a chance against 18.

[Diotor]

Future Android 18 VS SSJ Vegeta (Androids saga)

I'd be 50/50 on this one. Trunks is stronger than Future Gohan (probably) but Vegeta is considerably stronger than both Goku and Trunks at this point. I'd give Vegeta a decent chance of winning.

[Galan007]

Thanks for answering!


NOW SOME MORE!

Android 16 VS Imperfect Cell (if the fight actually continued)

Cell Games Piccolo VS ASSJ Future Trunks (pre 2nd day ROSAT)

Transformed Bido, Kogu, Zangya, Bujin VS 4 Cell Jr.s

Future Android 18 VS SSJ Vegeta (Androids saga)

Future Android 17 VS SSJ Future Trunks (with sword) and SSJ Future Gohan (one-handed)

Pan (start of GT) VS SSJ Future Gohan (two-handed)

Android 14 VS Android 19 and 20

-They are equals. The difference is that #16 possesses the equivalent of unlimited stamina, and Cell does not. #16 ultimately wins.
-I am of the opinion that Vegeta and Trunks didn't become much(if any) more powerful after the 2nd day/year of training. That said, Tunks wins. He and Vegeta were the only Z fighters who were capable of holding their own against the Cell Juniors. Even Piccolo was no match for them.
-Bojack's goons would get wrecked by the Cell Juniors.
-SSJ Vegeta was nearly on par with mainstream #18--the biggest deciding factor in their battle was #18's unlimited stamina. Vegeta should be able to defeat future #18, however, IF those iterations of the Androids were truly weaker than their mainstream counterparts, as Trunks said.
-Future Gohan was *shown* doing well against both future Androids, and Trunks *said* he was able to hold his own against both of them. Trunks and Gohan together should be able to overwhelm #17.
-Pan, cuz GT multipliers.
-#14 wins, imo. It took everything SSJ Trunks had to beat #14... I don't think he would've had quite as much trouble with #19-#20.

[Angelus]

Oh well, it's been a while, so I'll leave this here for now.

ANOTHER SET OF MATCHES!

SSJG Bra (End of Z) VS Transformed Hirudegarn

Olibu VS Movie 8 LSSJ Broly

SSJ Bardock VS First Form Frieza (Imagine if Bardock, got healed, actually turned SSJ and tried to stop Frieza)-- battle is on an empty area on Planet Vegeta. No planet blowing.

Nappa VS Bardock's Team (shortly before they get killed off on Planet Meat)

Dodoria's 4 Elites VS Guldo

Mr. Satan VS Bruce Lee Impersonator

Gine (Goku and Raditz's mom) VS Tarble

Great Apes Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz (Saiyan Saga, all at full health) VS Chilled-- no tail cutting

[Darkron2151]

Oh well, it's been a while, so I'll leave this here for now.

ANOTHER SET OF MATCHES!

SSJG Bra (End of Z) VS Transformed Hirudegarn

Olibu VS Movie 8 LSSJ Broly

SSJ Bardock VS First Form Freeza (Imagine if Bardock, got healed, actually turned SSJ and tried to stop Freeza)-- battle is on an empty area on Planet Vegeta. No planet blowing.

Nappa VS Bardock's Team (shortly before they get killed off on Planet Meat)

Dodoria's 4 Elites VS Guldo

Mr. Satan VS Bruce Lee Impersonator

Gine (Goku and Raditz's mom) VS Tarble

Great Apes Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz (Saiyan Saga, all at full health) VS Chilled-- no tail cutting

1. Bra's garbage at the end of Z. She shows no interest in fighting and looks like a mini-Bulma. SSJG wouldn't do anything against Hirudegarn.

2. Base Broly beats Olibu. He didn't even beat Yamcha.

3. I give this to Bardock, assuming this is the Special Bardock that isn't from Dragon Ball Minus and is on par with King Vegeta. Add in a Zenkai and a 50x Super Saiyan Boost, and it's lights out for Freeza.

4. The Z-Warriors, with teamwork, managed to almost kill Nappa (mostly due to his stupidity). If the B-Crew can do the same, they may be able to pull something off, assuming Vegeta's not there to warn him about their strategies. Also, just a hunch, but is this the Nappa that fought the Z-Warriors or the one from the special that was with young Vegeta? Because I have the younger Nappa a bit stronger than the older Z Nappa, mostly because that would probably be his prime.

5. Guldo, though the weakest out of the Ginyus, probably still has a power of around 10,000, judging how he reacted to Gohan and Krillin's power yet still wasn't too worried. And he also has his time manipulation. He beats them easier than Bardock did.

6. Mr. Satan beat Cell, so of course he wins . All Joking aside, he's probably the strongest non-ki using human on Earth to hold his World Champion title for as long as he did.

7. I give this to Tarble. Mostly because of how Abo and Cado said that he gave them trouble back on his planet. So that has to count for SOMETHING, right?

8. I don't have Chilled like, 20x stronger than Bardock during the special. I'd guesstimate that he'd be around 4-5x stronger than him, and that seems very doable for Vegeta. So the Saiyans take this.

[Angelus]

Yeah, the one from the TV special. I haven't read DB Minus yet... however I have heard that it has contradictions with the manga/anime.

I meant the Nappa from the Saiyan Saga. But the younger one with Vegeta is fine as well, a double situation.


Hmmmm and here's another set!


Arqua VS Kishime

King Gurumes VS Buyon

Transformed Hirudegarn VS Base Vegito (Anime; no dragon fist.. I read that anime Vegito was weaker than manga Vegito based on anime Vegito needing to turn SSJ immediately)

End of Z Goten VS Transformed Bojack

Burter and Guldo VS Recoome and Jeice

Skinny Gray Evil Buu VS South Supreme Kai

Grand Supreme Kai VS Dabura (no spitting)

[Darkron2151]

Yeah, the one from the TV special. I haven't read DB Minus yet... however I have heard that it has contradictions with the manga/anime.

I meant the Nappa from the Saiyan Saga. But the younger one with Vegeta is fine as well, a double situation.


Hmmmm and here's another set!


Arqua VS Kishime

King Gurumes VS Buyon

Transformed Hirudegarn VS Base Vegito (Anime; no dragon fist.. I read that anime Vegito was weaker than manga Vegito based on anime Vegito needing to turn SSJ immediately)

End of Z Goten VS Transformed Bojack

Burter and Guldo VS Recoome and Jeice

Skinny Gray Evil Buu VS South Supreme Kai

Grand Supreme Kai VS Dabura (no spitting)

1. Not a clue.

2. Not a clue.

3. Actually, it was the manga where he transformed immediately and it was the anime where he fought evenly, if not had an edge, against Buuhan. Either way, he beats Hirudegarn.

4. Goten has no chance . Bojack was SSJ Cell Games Gohan level with his regular state. But with his Super form, he's around Cell level. I don't think Goten even surpassed Gohan, even with the ROSAT.

5. As long as Guldo can keep at least 1 Ginyu immobile, I can see Team 1 pulling a victory. Unless Burter loses. Then, they're screwed.

6. I give this to Dabura. Other than being the leader (and not even the strongest out of the Kais) and also internally affecting Buu, Dai Kaioshin was never shown to be anything special as far as power. Dabura, on the other hand, is comparable to Cell.

[Angelus]

Hmmm... this is a bit confusing.... I thought Full Power Perfect Cell was slightly weaker than Cell Games MSSJ/FPSSJ Gohan, in the manga?

Here's another set then. lol


Culture Fluid Bio-Broly VS Super Android 13

Blonde Launch (no guns) VS Bear Thief (no sword)

End of Z Trunks VS Cell Games ASSJ/USSJ Future Trunks with sword and saiyan armor (USSJ, if ASSJ isn't enough)

Grand Kai VS Mecha Frieza

Abo VS End of Z Krillin

SSJ Goku Jr. VS Nappa

Kibito VS Great Ape Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)-- no tail cutting