Whether he can add to the original run depends on whether the industry works that way. I don't think I've ever heard of a manga being continued in Jump after it ended, and Toriyama can't actually do what he wants, because it's Shueisha that hold the rights to the manga.
But, either way, it wouldn't change the fact that the original run DID end in 1995.
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Have you never heard about Jojo's Bizarre Adventure? The author keeps finishing it and then adding more stories, making completely new stories and then ret-conning them back into the Jojo franchise. By your definition we should disregard everything apart from the original run, right?Saiga wrote:Whether he can add to the original run depends on whether the industry works that way. I don't think I've ever heard of a manga being continued in Jump after it ended, and Toriyama can't actually do what he wants, because it's Shueisha that hold the rights to the manga.
But, either way, it wouldn't change the fact that the original run DID end in 1995.
This reminds me of the discussion we had about what defines a plot hole. You'll twist and bend everything to make yourself right, no matter how blunt the definition is, you'll find a tiny thread to unravel in order to make sure you are in the right and everyone else is wrong. You're absolutely impossible to argue with.
People please let this go and lets carry on with other healthy discussions.
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By that logic, the prequel trilogy & the edits in the original trilogy in Star Wars should be disregarded because the original Star Wars Trilogy ended in 1983.Saiga wrote:Whether he can add to the original run depends on whether the industry works that way. I don't think I've ever heard of a manga being continued in Jump after it ended, and Toriyama can't actually do what he wants, because it's Shueisha that hold the rights to the manga.
But, either way, it wouldn't change the fact that the original run DID end in 1995.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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And isn't that what a lot of fans do? 
But anyway, what I was talking about them was just as what I would count as being "part of the original manga" in a literal sense. If AT starts drawing Dragon Ball again, or Lucas creates a set of prequels, than that's a new run/new trilogy, not the original.
But anyway, what I was talking about them was just as what I would count as being "part of the original manga" in a literal sense. If AT starts drawing Dragon Ball again, or Lucas creates a set of prequels, than that's a new run/new trilogy, not the original.
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Incorrectly. Star Wars has an official canon, and the main canon is the 6 movies in their latest version.Saiga wrote:And isn't that what a lot of fans do?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I figured that was the case, despite not knowing much about Star Wars. But please see my edit.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Incorrectly. Star Wars has an official canon, and the main canon is the 6 movies in their latest version.Saiga wrote:And isn't that what a lot of fans do?
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Well, I believe that the original author can add whatever he wants in his story, even after it's ended, because he is, well, the author. Whatever the author says is a rule.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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And I can see why you'd believe that, and have no problem with it. That's just not how I see it.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Well, I believe that the original author can add whatever he wants in his story, even after it's ended, because he is, well, the author. Whatever the author says is a rule.
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Star Wars has officially defined for itself 6 different grades of canon, and a few even more subtle degrees in some of the grades.
This just goes to show that canon is something that only the rights owner can define, and the rights owners of DB have not defined their canon. Dictionaries are irrelevant.
This just goes to show that canon is something that only the rights owner can define, and the rights owners of DB have not defined their canon. Dictionaries are irrelevant.
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What makes your authority over the continuity greater than the authors?Saiga wrote:And I can see why you'd believe that, and have no problem with it. That's just not how I see it.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Well, I believe that the original author can add whatever he wants in his story, even after it's ended, because he is, well, the author. Whatever the author says is a rule.
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And that's why Bardock never says anything of his visions... they start kinda worrying but end ridiculous
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Beside more mindfu.. looks like Salagir wants make people to really hate Vegetto, why else would he made him to be such crybaby? And no Bra, he is not invincible , his fight with Broly proved that.
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So... only some of Bardock's visions are real? Or maybe they're all fake? 
If I have to guess, Goku befriending a Cell Jr. is probably a fake one.
If I have to guess, Goku befriending a Cell Jr. is probably a fake one.
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Just because they seem implausible doesn't mean that it won't happen.Storm101 wrote:So... only some of Bardock's visions are real? Or maybe they're all fake?
Making Vegeta apologize? Piccolo must have fused with himself.
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Yeah but still, wtf?
Is this somebody jumping between bodies that's supposedly invincible and people like Bra and Vegeta are forced to "behave" for a while, similar to how Vegeta tries to entertain Bills in BoG?
Is this somebody jumping between bodies that's supposedly invincible and people like Bra and Vegeta are forced to "behave" for a while, similar to how Vegeta tries to entertain Bills in BoG?
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At least this is currently holding my interest. Suspenseful to say the least. This was the best route after the Future Gohan vs Dabura fiasco .
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Speculation time:
Piccolo is... letting Bra and Vegeta use the Dragon Balls, I guess?
Yamcha is about to get splattered.
Vegetto is going to refuse to go back.
Well, given how ridiculously overpowered Salagir made his little pet character (stronger than Ultimate Gohan in base... oh and also his SS3 multiplier is x10 instead of x4), only Zen Buu can save us now. Or Gast, who will magically fuse with the three Piccolos and become 10,000 times stronger.
Piccolo is... letting Bra and Vegeta use the Dragon Balls, I guess?
Yamcha is about to get splattered.
Vegetto is going to refuse to go back.
Well, given how ridiculously overpowered Salagir made his little pet character (stronger than Ultimate Gohan in base... oh and also his SS3 multiplier is x10 instead of x4), only Zen Buu can save us now. Or Gast, who will magically fuse with the three Piccolos and become 10,000 times stronger.
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Could Vegetto cry like a bitch any more? If he wants to complain then go to the Vargas. Don't stand in the middle of someone's fight and have a tantrum. I now see why Bra is such a bitch, because Salagir made Vegetto a bitch.
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So I'm guessing Vegetto starts going nuts after this.
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