"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[SaiyanGod117]

plus he's a fan of the franchise himself, I'm betting he's come up with something good.

Yeah, that's what we often tell ourselves until the leaks happen and everything hits the fan.

He can't stray too far from the anime, he can have some little changes here and there, but nothing too big to where's there's a contrast.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

plus he's a fan of the franchise himself, I'm betting he's come up with something good.

Yeah, that's what we often tell ourselves until the leaks happen and everything hits the fan.

Shit hits the fan every month because everyone turns off their brain and sharpens their fangs in this thread from the 15th to the 20th. It's practically mandatory at this point. I look forward to the detractors tearing the chapter apart after we get half a reaction panel where the eyes are a few millimeters disproportionate.

[mfwlegend3]

Shit hits the fan every month because everyone turns off their brain and sharpens their fangs in this thread from the 15th to the 20th. It's practically mandatory at this point. I look forward to the detractors tearing the chapter apart after we get half a reaction panel where the eyes are a few millimeters disproportionate.

Likewise. I've never seen anything like it. Not that I'm bothered by it, since it amuses me. Though, these threads never reach the same capacity as /a/ does whenever leaks are out.

[emperior]

Zeno will still wipe out Trunks' timeline in the manga, or else it wouldn't make sense for him to go to Goku's timeline, and I can't see Toei doing such a big change. 100% Zeno destroying Trunks' timeline was in Toriyama's outline. It also makes Zeno much more feared (which definitely helps with the US arc) and shows us he's the real thing and not some sort of Monaka.

[Basako]

The Earth being without survivors is like the hint there's nothing to save there, a massive destruction is likely. Although, it's not really true, as there are other 11 universes plus the Otherworlds. They could also go to Namek in there to fix things, I mean if Zeno doesn't destroy all, but unlikely.

One clear difference, no survivors, no spontaneous Genki ball. This is a relief. But I bet Trunks is going to use the sword, Mai took a big risk saving it for him, that has to mean something. Is the equivalent of the little girl giving the broken sword to Trunks.

The two Zenos are confirmed, so again, the massive destruction is very likely, but there could be other ways to reach there too, like just asking him if he wants to meet a friend. Simple as that.

I hope the manga gives another solution than Trunks and Mai going to live with their duplicates. I think this is the thing that bothers me most.

[emperior]

The Earth being without survivors is like the hint there's nothing to save there, a massive destruction is likely. Although, it's not really true, as there are other 11 universes plus the Otherworlds. They could also go to Namek in there to fix things, I mean if Zeno doesn't destroy all, but unlikely.

One clear difference, no survivors, no spontaneous Genki ball. This is a relief. But I bet Trunks is going to use the sword, Mai took a big risk saving it for him, that has to mean something. Is the equivalent of the little girl giving the broken sword to Trunks.

The two Zenos are confirmed, so again, the massive destruction is very likely, but there could be other ways to reach there too, like just asking him if he wants to meet a friend. Simple as that.

I hope the manga gives another solution than Trunks and Mai going to live with their duplicates. I think this is the thing that bothers me most.

The manga is 100% going with the duplicates thing. The story is the same, there's no way Trunks will die/stay in the main timeline in the manga. Absolutely no way.

I'm sorry to tell you guys but the manga isn't going to "fix" the things you dislike about Super's story. It seems like many here still don't get it and are always hoping to see it being a completely different story. I wrote the same things months ago when some here were saying that Gogeta could appear instead of Vegetto or whatever ideas were thrown in the mix, even though it was obvious the potara "retcon" came directly from Toriyama.

Trunks is most likely going to end Zamasu's life in some way in the manga too (or he will at least put up a good fight) - it's been hinted in the last chapter when Trunks was saying he wanted to fight too and blablabla, so he's 100% doing something worthwhile.

[Basako]

The Earth being without survivors is like the hint there's nothing to save there, a massive destruction is likely. Although, it's not really true, as there are other 11 universes plus the Otherworlds. They could also go to Namek in there to fix things, I mean if Zeno doesn't destroy all, but unlikely.

One clear difference, no survivors, no spontaneous Genki ball. This is a relief. But I bet Trunks is going to use the sword, Mai took a big risk saving it for him, that has to mean something. Is the equivalent of the little girl giving the broken sword to Trunks.

The two Zenos are confirmed, so again, the massive destruction is very likely, but there could be other ways to reach there too, like just asking him if he wants to meet a friend. Simple as that.

I hope the manga gives another solution than Trunks and Mai going to live with their duplicates. I think this is the thing that bothers me most.

The manga is 100% going with the duplicates thing. The story is the same, there's no way Trunks will die/stay in the main timeline in the manga. Absolutely no way.

I'm sorry to tell you guys but the manga isn't going to "fix" the things you dislike about Super's story. It seems like many here still don't get it and are always hoping to see it being a completely different story. I wrote the same things months ago when some here were saying that Gogeta could appear instead of Vegetto or whatever ideas were thrown in the mix, even though it was obvious the potara "retcon" came directly from Toriyama.

Trunks is most likely going to end Zamasu's life in some way in the manga too (or he will at least put up a good fight) - it's been hinted in the last chapter when Trunks was saying he wanted to fight too and blablabla, so he's 100% doing something worthwhile.

Well, for a start it's changing the Genki sword and merged Zamasu may defuse. Man, I don't know what's going to happen, but I don't think it's a 100% for the duplicates, as you say. I agree Trunks and Mai won't stay, otherwise he would have been in the team.

There are differences mostly about power like the SSG or the SSRage, but there are also different takes on story plots, like when they summoned Shenron to find the last super dragon ball or Boo fell asleep in the Champa tournament. Black following Trunks to their timeline wasn't a minor difference either. There are things, it's the same story but different.

[Saturnine]

Well Toyotaro does take some liberties for sure, but I gotta say that at least in his manga there are none of those honestly tiresome powerlevel inconsistencies.

Toei is the primary, nay, sole culprit of people saying "powerlevels are bullshit". It never was an issue in Toriyama's manga, nor is it in Toyotaro's.

[TheMikado]

Well Toyotaro does take some liberties for sure, but I gotta say that at least in his manga there are none of those honestly tiresome powerlevel inconsistencies.

Toei is the primary, nay, sole culprit of people saying "powerlevels are bullshit". It never was an issue in Toriyama's manga, nor is it in Toyotaro's.

Nah, the manga has problems too but seems primarily due to Toriyamas half assed outline.

[batistabus]

I hope for a better ending to Future Trunks this time

Considering Toyotaro's had several MONTHS to analyze the ending of the anime's version of the arc, plus he's a fan of the franchise himself, I'm betting he's come up with something good.

You seem to misunderstand the production process. Toyotaro likely finished drawing this arc months ago (even longer if you consider when he submitted his storyboard for review). Not only is Toyo not allowed to deviate drastically from Tori's outline, but he likely wouldn't if given the chance. He'll do his best with what he's given.

I'm not sure why so many seem to despise the end of the arc. The only thing I dislike is "Zamasu is merging with the universe itself!"

[Venus]

I hope the manga gives another solution than Trunks and Mai going to live with their duplicates. I think this is the thing that bothers me most.

I hope Trunks just goes to the unseen timeline where Bulma is still alive, that would be the best, and honestly, I don't know why Toei didn't did that.

[DHM211]

but I gotta say that at least in his manga there are none of those honestly tiresome powerlevel inconsistencies.

Base Black is stronger then SSJ2 Trunks, who is equal to SSJ3 Goku. However, when they go to the future for the first time, SSJ2 Vegeta is stronger then SSJ2 Black.

[Totamo]

Well Toyotaro does take some liberties for sure, but I gotta say that at least in his manga there are none of those honestly tiresome powerlevel inconsistencies.

Toei is the primary, nay, sole culprit of people saying "powerlevels are bullshit". It never was an issue in Toriyama's manga, nor is it in Toyotaro's.

No, it was. Tien pushing down Semi Perfect Cell and deflecting super buu attack, that makes little to no sense.


But it wasn't as bad because the power imflux wasn't as bad as it was now. Compare the power scale issues of the Freeza saga to Cell saga and you will see what I mena

[Basako]

I hope the manga gives another solution than Trunks and Mai going to live with their duplicates. I think this is the thing that bothers me most.

I hope Trunks just goes to the unseen timeline where Bulma is still alive, that would be the best, and honestly, I don't know why Toei didn't did that.

That would be so great, I don't discard it.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

but I gotta say that at least in his manga there are none of those honestly tiresome powerlevel inconsistencies.

Base Black is stronger then SSJ2 Trunks, who is equal to SSJ3 Goku. However, when they go to the future for the first time, SSJ2 Vegeta is stronger then SSJ2 Black.

Black was a regular Super Saiyan, not Super Saiyan 2.

[DHM211]

but I gotta say that at least in his manga there are none of those honestly tiresome powerlevel inconsistencies.

Base Black is stronger then SSJ2 Trunks, who is equal to SSJ3 Goku. However, when they go to the future for the first time, SSJ2 Vegeta is stronger then SSJ2 Black.

Black was a regular Super Saiyan, not Super Saiyan 2.

Regardless, if base Black was stronger then SSJ2 Trunks, who is equal to SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta shouldn't be able to beat base Black, let alone SSJ Black.

[LightBing]

Regardless, if base Black was stronger then SSJ2 Trunks, who is equal to SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta shouldn't be able to beat base Black, let alone SSJ Black.

SSJ2 Vegeta did better against Beerus than SSJ3 Goku, he's stronger than Goku. Not only in the manga continuity also in the anime and the movies.

[DHM211]

Regardless, if base Black was stronger then SSJ2 Trunks, who is equal to SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta shouldn't be able to beat base Black, let alone SSJ Black.

SSJ2 Vegeta did better against Beerus than SSJ3 Goku, he's stronger than Goku. Not only in the manga continuity also in the anime and the movies.

SSJ2 Vegeta did better from getting a temporary rage boost against Berrus when he hit Bulma.
Not to mention, thats before Goku was able to become SSJ God.

[LightBing]

Regardless, if base Black was stronger then SSJ2 Trunks, who is equal to SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta shouldn't be able to beat base Black, let alone SSJ Black.

SSJ2 Vegeta did better against Beerus than SSJ3 Goku, he's stronger than Goku. Not only in the manga continuity also in the anime and the movies.

SSJ2 Vegeta did better from getting a temporary rage boost against Berrus when he hit Bulma.
Not to mention, thats before Goku was able to become SSJ God.

Where was it said it was temporary?

[DHM211]

SSJ2 Vegeta did better against Beerus than SSJ3 Goku, he's stronger than Goku. Not only in the manga continuity also in the anime and the movies.

SSJ2 Vegeta did better from getting a temporary rage boost against Berrus when he hit Bulma.
Not to mention, thats before Goku was able to become SSJ God.

Where was it said it was temporary?

It wasnt said anywhere, its just implied to be a rage boost, just like Goku got after he found out Black killed Chichi and Goten.