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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hades » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:58 pm

I can understand the Goofy outfits in Dragon Ball, but Z?

I mean, a vest with PAULDRONS! and a thong? That's supposed to make them look intimidating? BTW, what makes the Chaos Space Marines so intimidating isn't just the spikes, but also the shape and colour of the armour combined with the reputation of the CSMs. I mean, for being the butchers of the Galaxy, the Saiyans look like rejects from Motley Crue.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:19 pm

I can understand the Goofy outfits in Dragon Ball, but Z?
Dragonball is Dragonball. Only the anime is Z. he manga they're both Dragonball.
I mean, a vest with PAULDRONS! and a thong? That's supposed to make them look intimidating?
Umm...you do realize that AKira Toriyama tend to make villain to look LESS intimidating right? It was never his purpose. He made them look less scary because of the point of "Never judge a book by it's cover". Why you think SSG wasn't all fierce looking?
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That's your example. Really? No offense but they don't look intimidating at ALL. THey look of out date as well and in all honestly look stupid.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gonstead » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:33 pm

@Hades The problem though is that you are comparing between two vastly different properties, each with their own distinction and looks. They're too diifferent to be comparable.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hades » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:36 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Umm...you do realize that AKira Toriyama tend to make villain to look LESS intimidating right? It was never his purpose. He made them look less scary because of the point of "Never judge a book by it's cover". Why you think SSG wasn't all fierce looking?
I can easily understand that theme, with Vegeta/Freeza/Kid Buu being smaller than their enemies, but in terms of the minions' uniforms? I mean, you'd think for being the space equivalent of Vikings/Pirates, the Saiyans would have better fashion sense. :lol:
That's your example. Really? No offense but they don't look intimidating at ALL. THey look of out date as well and in all honestly look stupid.
I'd say the CSMs appearance have aged better than that of Freeza's minions.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:40 pm

I'd say the CSMs appearance have aged better than that of Freeza's minions.
Do know what you mean but they look more goofy than Freeza's minions.
I can easily understand that theme, with the small Vegeta/Freeza/Kid Buu, but in terms of their uniforms? I mean, you'd think for being the space equivalent of Vikings/Pirates, the Saiyans would have better fashion sense. :lol:
When did Saiyans care for fashion? They're fighters not models. Saiyans aren't pirates at all. Hell Saiyans would't mind fighting naked. Point is. The uniforms aren't suppose to be intimidating nor scary. They're suppose to make you say "Wow they look dumb" only for you to get your ass kicked by them. Don't judge a book by it's cover.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hades » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:42 pm

When did Saiyans care for fashion? They're fighters not models. Saiyans aren't pirates at all. Hell Saiyans would't mind fighting naked. Point is. The uniforms aren't suppose to be intimidating nor scary. They're suppose to make you say "Wow they look dumb" only for you to get your ass kicked by them. Don't judge a book by it's cover.
It isn't just Saiyans. It's also the bog-standard minions that are just cannon fodder for Freeza. My fashion sense statement also applies to him.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:54 pm

Hades wrote:
When did Saiyans care for fashion? They're fighters not models. Saiyans aren't pirates at all. Hell Saiyans would't mind fighting naked. Point is. The uniforms aren't suppose to be intimidating nor scary. They're suppose to make you say "Wow they look dumb" only for you to get your ass kicked by them. Don't judge a book by it's cover.
It isn't just Saiyans. It's also the bog-standard minions that are just cannon fodder for Freeza. My fashion sense statement also applies to him.
Why would Freeza care for fashion? When he transforms he's naked anyways(Besides...underwear?). Not like he honestly care for his minions anyways.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:26 pm

Hades wrote:I mean, a vest with PAULDRONS! and a thong?
Um... who the hell is wearing a thong? Well, I am, but that just gives me even more reason to be confused as to why you'd think anyone wearing the armor was, unless this is some armor-related term I'm unfamiliar with.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:27 pm

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Hades wrote:I mean, a vest with PAULDRONS! and a thong?
Um... who the hell is wearing a thong? Well, I am, but that just gives me even more reason to be confused as to why you'd think anyone wearing the armor was, unless this is some armor-related term I'm unfamiliar with.
I think he means Zarbon

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:29 pm

Aside from that joke in DBZ Abridged, Zarbon's not wearing a thong either.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:35 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Aside from that joke in DBZ Abridged, Zarbon's not wearing a thong either.
He wasn't *Ignoring DBA*? Well...I don't really follow thongs. I'll just ask Tyniesha for input.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:37 pm

I don't know who that is, but I do "follow" (I guess...?) thongs, and there are no thongs associated with Saiyan armor.

All that aside, though, this is the first criticism I've ever heard against the armor. That was always one of the coolest things. Everyone always wanted Saiyan armor.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:32 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:I don't know who that is, but I do "follow" (I guess...?) thongs, and there are no thongs associated with Saiyan armor.

All that aside, though, this is the first criticism I've ever heard against the armor. That was always one of the coolest things. Everyone always wanted Saiyan armor.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:44 pm

See? Then again, you could have just believed me in the first place... :wink:
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thatdbzguy » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:07 am

I prefer Dragon Ball Z over the original.

Not exactly an "unpopular" opinion, but probably a minority one on this website.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:04 pm

thatdbzguy wrote:I prefer Dragon Ball Z over the original.

Not exactly an "unpopular" opinion, but probably a minority one on this website.
Actually it's kinda split 50 50.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by KingofWisdom » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:27 am

I've seen it a few times, but I don't like it when someone is looked down upon for uttering "ascended" in regard to SSJ2. It's not like it's an inaccurate translation of what Goku says to Buu, so it just strikes me as dub-hating.
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Post by TheOverlyMadHatter » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:45 am

I quite enjoyed Movie 11, actually. Granted, there could have been a better villain, but that doesn't take away from the greatness of seeing the B-list and C-list characters in the spotlight for once. Only Goku got an appearance. We can never get enough of Mr. Satan's shenanigans.

I find SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Ultimate Gohan to be overrated. He gets an instant power-up, gets in over his head, and is far too cocky for my taste. The worst was against Cell; the moment he lost the advantage, he fell to his knees and just accepted it. Same goes for after Cell came back, it took Goku encouraging him to fight back to actually do so. While Ultimate Gohan does not suffer from the traits mentioned in my last sentence, I still hate how easy it was for him to come into being.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:00 am

I actually agree with both of your opinions. Movie 11 is a lot of fun, and I don't care that Broly was turned into slime-monster mainly because I don't really care for Broly anyways.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:57 am

Kid Buu wrote:I actually agree with both of your opinions. Movie 11 is a lot of fun, and I don't care that Broly was turned into slime-monster mainly because I don't really care for Broly anyways.
Movie 11 does have it's good points (from what I've seen), I agree. The truly bad movies are between the 4th and 7th ones.
TheOverlyMadHatter wrote:I find SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Ultimate Gohan to be overrated. He gets an instant power-up, gets in over his head, and is far too cocky for my taste. The worst was against Cell; the moment he lost the advantage, he fell to his knees and just accepted it. Same goes for after Cell came back, it took Goku encouraging him to fight back to actually do so. While Ultimate Gohan does not suffer from the traits mentioned in my last sentence, I still hate how easy it was for him to come into being.
SSJ2 Kid Gohan was more arrogant than cocky since he was deliberately dragging the battle out to make Cell suffer. He was lost with rage. Ultimate Gohan was the cocky one.
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