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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Ajay » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:26 pm

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His Level skin tone makes him look like an action figure.
What? That's an accurate skin tone. The dude looks like a prawn in the Dbox shot.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by KingofWisdom » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:32 pm

He's lacking in color. It's like going from one extreme to the other.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Ajay » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:41 pm

KingofWisdom wrote:He's lacking in color. It's like going from one extreme to the other.
I disagree. It's literally made the whites actually white which in turn corrects the other colours. Look at the eyes.
Looks the exact same tone as the cels I own so it's certainly intended.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:18 pm

The only real problem with the level sets' colors is they were a tad too dark and dull. Otherwise, though, I'd have to imagine that's how it looked on TV in 1989.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Ajay » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:41 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:The only real problem with the level sets' colors is they were a tad too dark and dull. Otherwise, though, I'd have to imagine that's how it looked on TV in 1989.
My only issue with the Level Sets doesn't even relate to the colours. It's down to the minor artifacting caused by their mild use of DNR. It's a bit of a shame as the raw footage doesn't look much different aside from...you know, not having artifacts.
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Post by qjz123 » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:16 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:The only real problem with the level sets' colors is they were a tad too dark and dull. Otherwise, though, I'd have to imagine that's how it looked on TV in 1989.
Mine is the complete opposite I always saw the dragon boxes as looking bland and boring and the level sets always looked extremely sharp and vibrant to me. I just can't stand the red/pink tint that plagues the dragon boxes which is why I was so bummed when the level sets where canceled.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:37 am

I'm actually quite fond of the Dragon Box's colors. Even though the pink cast can be overbearing, they're very pretty and vibrant imo. Either that or it's just me preferring reddish hues.
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Post by KingofWisdom » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:42 am

I prefer it to the dull Level sets myself. Not that the Level sets aren't great.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:21 am

jjgp1112 wrote:I'm actually quite fond of the Dragon Box's colors. Even though the pink cast can be overbearing, they're very pretty and vibrant imo. Either that or it's just me preferring reddish hues.
I love the vibrancy of the Dragon Box colors, and I'm okay with the pinkish look in the Saiyan arc episodes, but I actually don't like the late Boo-arc where the footage got too bright and there was consistently a cyan cast. :| At times it was treading towards season two brightness.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by qjz123 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:42 am

KingofWisdom wrote:I prefer it to the dull Level sets myself. Not that the Level sets aren't great.
I love the level sets colors I never really found them to be dull if anything that is how the original film looks.
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Besides having a red/pink tint in the episodes the dragon boxes also had a problem with the color of the sky or the color of Bulma's hair appearing to be green.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Roland_ELoG » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:38 pm

The color filter is one of the things that kept me from buying more Dragon Boxes. Well, that and I can't justify spending 400 dollars on one season of Dragon Ball Z.

Does anybody have the FUNi singles for some comparison shots? If not I can dig them out later and post a few. As I recall they look pretty good.
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Post by PhoenixEX » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:54 pm

Had all the Level Sets been released, they would have most definitely been the definitive release.
Dragon Boxes are great, but the Level Sets were easily better.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:09 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:The color filter is one of the things that kept me from buying more Dragon Boxes. Well, that and I can't justify spending 400 dollars on one season of Dragon Ball Z.

Does anybody have the FUNi singles for some comparison shots? If not I can dig them out later and post a few. As I recall they look pretty good.
Singles for the Saiyan saga or any saga? :D

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Fizzer » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:43 pm

I really hope we get both these and something like the levels sets. These seasons are so different to everything else that they're like an alternative version of the show, as if it's been completely reanimated in a different art style, and that new style is actually quite nice in its own right, it's just completely different to what we hoped for, so I want both. I think both seasons and levels-esque sets is actually the most likely outcome, as long as the seasons sell well to the mainstream audience, so we're actually hurting ourselves by giving this release a shitstorm of negative publicity and putting off casual buyers who don't give a damn about cropping and DNR.

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Post by KingofWisdom » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:49 pm

Then again, we don't know that these will even sell well, let alone that FUNimation will make so much money that they'll generously put it into finishing the Level release. For all we know, the main audience who just wanted a cheap way to watch DBZ from beginning to end will be satisfied with their orange bricks. A release, by the way, which is still an Amazon bestseller despite being a cheap punchline around these parts.
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Post by Fizzer » Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:29 pm

KingofWisdom wrote:Then again, we don't know that these will even sell well, let alone that FUNimation will make so much money that they'll generously put it into finishing the Level release. For all we know, the main audience who just wanted a cheap way to watch DBZ from beginning to end will be satisfied with their orange bricks. A release, by the way, which is still an Amazon bestseller despite being a cheap punchline around these parts.
The orange bricks are still selling strong, which means that a lot of people are still buying DBZ all the time. Once the blu-rays are out, a lot of those people will see that they can get DBZ on either DVD or blu-ray and choose blu-ray. Unless the blu-rays have an average rating of two stars, which is pretty much the only thing they'll look at.

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:03 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote:
Roland_ELoG wrote:The color filter is one of the things that kept me from buying more Dragon Boxes. Well, that and I can't justify spending 400 dollars on one season of Dragon Ball Z.

Does anybody have the FUNi singles for some comparison shots? If not I can dig them out later and post a few. As I recall they look pretty good.
Singles for the Saiyan saga or any saga? :D
Probably whatever saga I have on all media forms. Which is NONE OF THEM thanks to the asinine partial releases. I have D-box, singles, and OJ remastered of some early Buu stuff, which I'll probably compare. Level sets, ultimate uncut, and kai didn't GET that far.
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Post by KingofWisdom » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:09 pm

I don't know what's worse, that this might be a real release, or that it might be in our best interests to not talk shit about it for it to make FUNimation money.
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They wanna turn up hours late and steal the show from the pros who had to die for the name." - Yamcha (DBWTF: Z-Rap 3)

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:14 pm

KingofWisdom wrote:or that it might be in our best interests to not talk shit about it for it to make FUNimation money.
Impossible, either that trailer was made to look bad as "f" or we're going to be blown away, we'll find out when another trailer is released if ever.

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:28 pm

It's like this. Dragon Ball Z is really old. You can't make it look good by today's standards of vibrant CG animation and soft edged explosions.

We basically have a choice between different versions of ugliness.
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