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Nah, I think that guy karemsicle69_2 deserved it
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Don't you guys think Krillin was a bit contradictory in the final act of the Saiyan arc? When he presumably thought Vegeta was killed by the Genki Dama, he wanted to burry him, a somewhat "noble" attitude with the bastard that was responsible to kill his friends, but when Vegeta was about to escape after some time, he wanted to kill him straight?
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Don't you guys think Krillin was a bit contradictory in the final act of the Saiyan arc? When he presumably thought Vegeta was killed by the Genki Dama, he wanted to burry him, a somewhat "noble" attitude with the bastard that was responsible to kill his friends, but when Vegeta was about to escape after some time, he wanted to kill him straight?
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I don't think that wanting to bury Vegeta necessarily means Kuririn wishes he could have been spared. Remember that Goku didn't spare him out of mercy, either. It was more like "well, now that he's dead, we might as well pay him his last respects."Noah wrote:Nah, I think that guy karemsicle69_2 deserved it
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Don't you guys think Krillin was a bit contradictory in the final act of the Saiyan arc? When he presumably thought Vegeta was killed by the Genki Dama, he wanted to burry him, a somewhat "noble" attitude with the bastard that was responsible to kill his friends, but when Vegeta was about to escape after some time, he wanted to kill him straight?
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I can't recall any time in-universe where he was actually named anything other than "General Rilldo", but I'm planning on rewatching GT (again) in Japanese (also my first time watching through a series in JapaneseNejishiki wrote:Rild & Hyper Mega Rild are the only titles I'm aware of. Any particular time stamp we should watch out for in Dragon Ball GT's episodes?

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The Black arc should've simply had Zamasu possess Goku's body the same way Kami possessed that human to fight Piccolo. The whole Super Dragon Ball business just creates a whole legion of story issues when he can abuse them to solve everything in a matter of minutes.
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Not really, the Super Dragon Balls are already there. Even if they weren't, I'm sure it would be an easy task for the other Dragon Balls. It's is a series where you can just do shit like this. A 23'rd Budokai-style possession would not only have been inefficient, but downright lame. Goku Black is one of the things that this arc got right.ekrolo2 wrote:The Black arc should've simply had Zamasu possess Goku's body the same way Kami possessed that human to fight Piccolo. The whole Super Dragon Ball business just creates a whole legion of story issues when he can abuse them to solve everything in a matter of minutes.
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I'd headcanon that he just wanted the satisfaction of exterminating them himself. That, or it's a character flaw, not a writing flaw.ekrolo2 wrote:The whole Super Dragon Ball business just creates a whole legion of story issues when he can abuse them to solve everything in a matter of minutes.
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At least with the other DBs you can just say they're nowhere near powerful enough to exterminate all life, the Super DBs just cause more issues than anything. His character does majoritively work but how he gets the body, basically the origin of Goku Black, is very problematic.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Not really, the Super Dragon Balls are already there. Even if they weren't I'm sure it would be an easy task for the other Dragon Balls. This is a series where you can just do shit like this. A 23'rd Budokai-style possession would not only have been inefficient, but downright lame. Goku Black is one of the things that this arc got right.ekrolo2 wrote:The Black arc should've simply had Zamasu possess Goku's body the same way Kami possessed that human to fight Piccolo. The whole Super Dragon Ball business just creates a whole legion of story issues when he can abuse them to solve everything in a matter of minutes.
It's not just that, why not ask Super Shenron to unlock all of Goku's power for him? That's why he wants the body and I really doubt Zamasu would immediately go full on "I wanna fight!" Saiyan mode just by being in his body for the short while it would take him to re-assemble the Super DBs for another wish.Anime Kitten wrote:I'd headcanon that he just wanted the satisfaction of exterminating them himself. That, or it's a character flaw, not a writing flaw.ekrolo2 wrote:The whole Super Dragon Ball business just creates a whole legion of story issues when he can abuse them to solve everything in a matter of minutes.
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Just chalk it up to another (probably unintentional) character flaw. Thinking about it, it's actually the ultimate twist for him to be so stunned by the power of the divine Super Dragon Balls that he can't think straight to wish for better, just like a mortal!ekrolo2 wrote:It's not just that, why not ask Super Shenron to unlock all of Goku's power for him? That's why he wants the body and I really doubt Zamasu would immediately go full on "I wanna fight!" Saiyan mode just by being in his body for the short while it would take him to re-assemble the Super DBs for another wish.
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Anime Kitten wrote:Just chalk it up to another (probably unintentional) character flaw. Thinking about it, it's actually the ultimate twist for him to be so stunned by the power of the divine Super Dragon Balls that he can't think straight to wish for better, just like a mortal!ekrolo2 wrote:It's not just that, why not ask Super Shenron to unlock all of Goku's power for him? That's why he wants the body and I really doubt Zamasu would immediately go full on "I wanna fight!" Saiyan mode just by being in his body for the short while it would take him to re-assemble the Super DBs for another wish.
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That might've actually been a cool thing to play up but there's literally nothing that implies this in either the manga or the anime. I would think between Zamasu and Black one of them would point out "just use our second to last wish to unlock all your body's power if we're going to do this hands on!".
It's especially weird for the anime where they've successfully killed the entire multiverse but Black is only SS2 Goku tier even though he should've fought through everyone in the latest tournament to accomplish this.
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Why don't we see standard super Saiyan noise( of the English dub ) when goku transforms in Super?
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This may most likely not happen, but I wanna see Beerus "hakaing" someone with his middle finger someday.
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That won't be a very godly thing to do...Freeza9000 wrote:This may most likely not happen, but I wanna see Beerus "hakaing" someone with his middle finger someday.
Specially for such a great move..
Speaking of which that's my favorite Dragonball move as of now right besides IT
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I just realized that Goku could beat Vegeta by himself if he only ate half a senzu to restore his energy rather than eating one whole.
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Maybe eating half a senzu only restores half your energy?TheUltimateNinja wrote:I just realized that Goku could beat Vegeta by himself if he only ate half a senzu to restore his energy rather than eating one whole.
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How are there two Future Trunks timelines in the Android arc? Cell's FT timeline creates the unseen timeline and main FTs time travel creates the main timeline... but why are there two FT timelines to begin with?
Krillin and Gohan get fixed right up from it so I doubt this. More likely instead of being able to go on for 10 days, you'd be able to do it for half that time.nickzambuto wrote:Maybe eating half a senzu only restores half your energy?TheUltimateNinja wrote:I just realized that Goku could beat Vegeta by himself if he only ate half a senzu to restore his energy rather than eating one whole.
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Not going to happen for a while, but when the Funi dub reaches the Universal Survival arc, if they dub "Limit Breaker x Survivor"...what do you think the lyrics will be like? Do you think they will be like this?
[spoiler]Get excited! To space we go!
The new obsession, go with the flow!
Start a fighting revolution!
This excitement makes me insane!
The long withdrawal from fighting's a pain!
I can't get no satisfaction
(woo-hoo) Boredom's like a stone
(woo-hoo) that sometimes life gets thrown
once it's overwealming you can let it fall (take the call)
(woo-hoo) Raise excited wings
(woo-hoo) Be brave like mountain kings
Eat and drink tomorrow we may die
The door of possibilities, is locked and I can't find the keys
It may seem sad, but i'm not mad, cause I'll just break the wall today
I can't get yoked like a cow for I know nothing can stop me now
Just let them try, I will not die, invincibility comes my way
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[spoiler]Get excited! To space we go!
The new obsession, go with the flow!
Start a fighting revolution!
This excitement makes me insane!
The long withdrawal from fighting's a pain!
I can't get no satisfaction
(woo-hoo) Boredom's like a stone
(woo-hoo) that sometimes life gets thrown
once it's overwealming you can let it fall (take the call)
(woo-hoo) Raise excited wings
(woo-hoo) Be brave like mountain kings
Eat and drink tomorrow we may die
The door of possibilities, is locked and I can't find the keys
It may seem sad, but i'm not mad, cause I'll just break the wall today
I can't get yoked like a cow for I know nothing can stop me now
Just let them try, I will not die, invincibility comes my way
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Anyone looking for a point or a productive debate about DB is probably looking in the wrong place. At the end of the day the point of being on this forum is to discuss DB and have fun. It's not a productive use of our time, so I have a hard time taking anyone using phrases like "productive debates" seriously. As long as you aren't insulting someone, it's all good.
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It isn't productive in the sense that it solves world hunger, that doesn't mean it can't be productive in the context of DB.ABED wrote:Anyone looking for a point or a productive debate about DB is probably looking in the wrong place. At the end of the day the point of being on this forum is to discuss DB and have fun. It's not a productive use of our time, so I have a hard time taking anyone using phrases like "productive debates" seriously. As long as you aren't insulting someone, it's all good.
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I don't think you can be that productive in this forum in pretty much any context beyond stating certain objective facts like informing people of the background of certain characters. And the cure for world hunger is easy - protecting property rights. The only real debate on that issue is how to go about doing that.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:It isn't productive in the sense that it solves world hunger, that doesn't mean it can't be productive in the context of DB.ABED wrote:Anyone looking for a point or a productive debate about DB is probably looking in the wrong place. At the end of the day the point of being on this forum is to discuss DB and have fun. It's not a productive use of our time, so I have a hard time taking anyone using phrases like "productive debates" seriously. As long as you aren't insulting someone, it's all good.
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The second Future Trunks was "born" from Cell influencing another time split. Future Trunks' visit to the alternate past was "established history" in the era Cell landed in. The original Future Trunks traveled to an alternate main cast while Cell never used those coordinates. Our Future Trunks breaks the scripting in his alternate future through knowledge & strength gained from our main cast (presumably, history would repeat itself by falling to Cell without those elements).ekrolo2 wrote:How are there two Future Trunks timelines in the Android arc? Cell's FT timeline creates the unseen timeline and main FTs time travel creates the main timeline... but why are there two FT timelines to begin with?