"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[LuckyCat]

Cool! Now we know exactly who wins what fights without even having to bother going through the effort of watching them! Thanks Toei!

At least the finale isn't spoiled. That seems intentional.

[omaro34]

Cool! Now we know exactly who wins what fights without even having to bother going through the effort of watching them! Thanks Toei!

Hey, no problem. Anytime.

But on a serious note, episode titles giving away a crucial twist to the episode is nothing new in Dragonball.

Years ago with the original English dub of Z during the Freeza Arc one episode title was "Freeza Defeated!".

And thats just one example of many.

I kid you not. I mean they literally tell us what happens before we watch the episode.

[Kuririn Fan]

Dragon Ball always spoiled the episode through the title, this is nothing new.

[Bullza]

It might be nothing new but it's still downright idiotic.

I mean so far with this new series, the first two sagas were retelling so we knew exactly what was going to happen there, then we move into new territory but the manga already spoiled that and now there's the episode titles being announced weeks in advance telling us basically who wins what.

Except for Frost beating Piccolo there has hardly been any kind of surprise so far.

[Kuririn Fan]

It might be nothing new but it's still downright idiotic.

I mean so far with this new series, the first two sagas were retelling so we knew exactly what was going to happen there, then we move into new territory but the manga already spoiled that and now there's the episode titles being announced weeks in advance telling us basically who wins what.

Except for Frost beating Piccolo there has hardly been any kind of surprise so far.

I agree that this sucks.

[alakazam^]

It might be nothing new but it's still downright idiotic.

I mean so far with this new series, the first two sagas were retelling so we knew exactly what was going to happen there, then we move into new territory but the manga already spoiled that and now there's the episode titles being announced weeks in advance telling us basically who wins what.

Except for Frost beating Piccolo there has hardly been any kind of surprise so far.

It's not Toei's fault, all the series have been doing this since forever. And these episode titles don't spoil that much, we only know that Vegeta fights in episode 36 and Hit appears in 38.

If you don't want to be spoiled you should be more careful.

[Bullza]

Well it's fine with series like Naruto or One Piece because they have really popular manga series that are released about a year or more before the anime.

With this series though the Dragon Ball Super manga should have stopped once we got to the U6 saga because it was spoiling what was going to happen in the anime in just a few weeks time.

Now we know Vegeta beats Frost and Magetta, he'll either draw or lose against Cabba and then Monaca will beat Cabba if it's not a draw.

I know you can avoid spoilers but it is very difficult, I didn't see these titles even on this site.

I really don't get it, you'd think they wouldn't want people to know so that people would tune in to watch it and be surprised but they just tell you beforehand.

[alakazam^]

I understand not wanting to be spoiled but that's what this thread is for, mainly. Every month we get several episode titles and summaries and each week we get those too.

Releasing summaries creates hype. I'm guessing that's the main reason.

[dbgtFO]

I really don't get it, you'd think they wouldn't want people to know so that people would tune in to watch it and be surprised but they just tell you beforehand.

Their target audience is kids, right, so maybe they won't be expecting them to scour these magazines.. or maybe they are and do it to generate hype, so people will tune to watch exactly what happens?

[Lord Beerus]

Well it's fine with series like Naruto or One Piece because they have really popular manga series that are released about a year or more before the anime.

With this series though the Dragon Ball Super manga should have stopped once we got to the U6 saga because it was spoiling what was going to happen in the anime in just a few weeks time.

Now we know Vegeta beats Frost and Magetta, he'll either draw or lose against Cabba and then Monaca will beat Cabba if it's not a draw.

I know you can avoid spoilers but it is very difficult, I didn't see these titles even on this site.

I really don't get it, you'd think they wouldn't want people to know so that people would tune in to watch it and be surprised but they just tell you beforehand.

I don't think every Dragon Ball fan who is watching Super in Japan is reading Newtype or is searching hard through the internet to find out what the future episode titles are. They just mostly judge what will happen in the next episode based on the NEP.

[Bullza]

Even so if it's something only a small portion of people pay attention to then why even bother? These are the titles

Dragon Ball Super Episode 35 – Turn Anger Into Power! Vegeta’s All-Out Battle!
Dragon Ball Super Episode 36 – An Unexpectedly Tricky Opponent!? Vegeta’s Explosion of Rage!

Well why not just cut off the second half and have this

Dragon Ball Super Episode 35 – Turn Anger Into Power!
Dragon Ball Super Episode 36 – An Unexpectedly Tricky Opponent!?

Now it ain't a mouthful of a title and it doesn't spoil what's going to happen in the episode.

[Doctor.]

Dragon Ball titles have always been like this. Why complain now?

[Bullza]

Because they spoil more now. Back when DBZ was airing millions of Japanese kids had already been reading the manga so knew what was going to happen.

There's no need for it with Super though.

[alakazam^]

What do they spoil? They could have been referring to Frost, for all we knew.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

To me it really doesn't matter if they give away plot twists or surprises in a story (of course it could be ideal to go blind in a experience), it won't change how they will execute/pull say said twist/surprise, which is really matters and is something is barely spoiled at all.

[Bullza]

What do they spoil? They could have been referring to Frost, for all we knew.

Well we knew Goku fought Botamo, beat Botamo, fought Frost, lost to Frost and Piccolo fought Frost.

We didn't know who was going to win between Frost and Piccolo and that was nice.

Now we know Vegeta will beat Frost, fight Magetta, beat Magetta, fight Cabba and that Vegeta won't beat him. And finally we know Monaca will beat Cabba if Cabba beats Vegeta.

So of all the fights to take place there's only three where we don't know the winner and chances are one of them is bound to be spoiled beforehand.

[Chuquita]

While I am one to seek out spoilers, I did appreciate the few things they were able to keep a secret, like the matching beards. :3

Can you imagine what it would've been like if that scene premiered in a next episode preview? People would've been wondering all week how long the beards were staying for (since they're not in any Uni 6 promo art).

[Sodhi]

The future episode titles and summaries are given for the same reason as the previews for next episode. They want to show/tell people snippets of whats going to happen in the future to hype people up, its kinda like teasing or trailer of a movie. These titles and summaries like any teasers can be misleading.

[Blade]

There's never any half measure in Dragonball titles; it's either outright description or superlative fluff.

Oh, and plenty of statements disguised as questions by way of caffeine-fuelled use of punctuation.

[Kakarotto92]

For those who are complaining about the pacing, I wouldn't jump the gun too fast. I'm convinced this tournament is not the main plot of the current arc, i'm pretty sure of it.

I agree. I get the feeling that this tournament is an introduction to something much bigger, similar to the start of the Buu Arc.

Firstly, unlike the Buu arc, this tournament isn't being interrupted, the episode titles confirm that the tournament is going to be completed (or at least it will reach the finals) plus both the main characters (Goku and Vegeta) are taking part in the matches this time around, whereas in the Buu arc they went after Babidi's spaceship. Even if there's "something much bigger" happening afterwards, if the tournament is completed then the tournament is its own arc (much like the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai was its own arc even though it preceded the "much bigger" Piccolo Daimao arc). So there's no excuses for making this fights so fast-paced.

Secondly, even in the Buu arc, where the tournament wasn't even the main event but just an introduction to the arc, Trunks vs Goten and Videl vs Spopovich were still much longer fights than the ones we're having in Super's tournament, so again, no excuses.