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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:09 pm

It looks like I plan to watch the movie later tonight. I will post my thoughts on the movie later.
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penguintruth wrote:I found the most hilariously bad subtitles for this movie, wherein Kaio is referred to as "Community Wang".
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:23 pm

penguintruth wrote:I found the most hilariously bad subtitles for this movie, wherein Kaio is referred to as "Community Wang".
Yeah, these are translated from Google translator from Chinese to English. :lol: But I managed to find some watchable subs (They had FUNi terms, but I corrected them by myself :twisted: ). Gonna watch the movie later. :mrgreen:
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:47 pm

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:01 pm

I thought the movie was pretty good. I need to watch the movie a few more times to make a full judgement. My opinion tends to change when I do multiple viewings. Birus was a great character and I kinda wanted to see more from Whis. I liked the comedy as well. Vegeta's dance was awesome and my highlight. The fights however weren't that great. The final fight wasn't that great and SSJ Goku had a better fight with Birus than Godku which is kinda bizarre. I know Birus only used 70% of his power, but he was holding back and it was so one sided. I would have liked it to be more even and then have Birus doing better. Even if I didn't read the synopsis it really wasn't surprising that Birus won. I would have loved the battle to be really close with Birus edging out which would have been good.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:05 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:I thought the movie was pretty good. I need to watch the movie a few more times to make a full judgement. My opinion tends to change when I do multiple viewings. Birus was a great character and I kinda wanted to see more from Whis. I liked the comedy as well. Vegeta's dance was awesome and my highlight. The fights however weren't that great. The final fight wasn't that great and SSJ Goku had a better fight with Birus than Godku which is kinda bizarre. I know Birus only used 70% of his power, but he was holding back and it was so one sided. I would have liked it to be more even and then have Birus doing better.
I can't believe I never thought of this before but, Goku did mention he didn't like using SSJ God, so he was most likely hesitant to use it's power to it's full extent. Goku also mentioned he was only putting forth 80% effort during the fight. When he absorbed SSJ God into his being, he most likely dropped whatever restraints he had and gave Beers a good fight.
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dbzfan7 wrote:I thought the movie was pretty good. I need to watch the movie a few more times to make a full judgement. My opinion tends to change when I do multiple viewings. Birus was a great character and I kinda wanted to see more from Whis. I liked the comedy as well. Vegeta's dance was awesome and my highlight. The fights however weren't that great. The final fight wasn't that great and SSJ Goku had a better fight with Birus than Godku which is kinda bizarre. I know Birus only used 70% of his power, but he was holding back and it was so one sided. I would have liked it to be more even and then have Birus doing better.
I can't believe I never thought of this before but, Goku did mention he didn't like using SSJ God, so he was most likely hesitant to use it's power to it's full extent. Goku also mentioned he was only putting forth 80% effort during the fight. When he absorbed SSJ God into his being, he most likely dropped whatever restraints he had and gave Beers a good fight.
From what I saw it was too one sided. I wasn't really entertained that much. Even without knowing the end result it was obvious Birus would win as he pretty much dominated the whole time. I was expecting it to be closer. But it was kinda boring seeing Goku just get smacked around after he got a God form. He has a new form and he just got stomped. These are just my first impressions.
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dbzfan7 wrote:I thought the movie was pretty good. I need to watch the movie a few more times to make a full judgement. My opinion tends to change when I do multiple viewings. Birus was a great character and I kinda wanted to see more from Whis. I liked the comedy as well. Vegeta's dance was awesome and my highlight. The fights however weren't that great. The final fight wasn't that great and SSJ Goku had a better fight with Birus than Godku which is kinda bizarre. I know Birus only used 70% of his power, but he was holding back and it was so one sided. I would have liked it to be more even and then have Birus doing better.
I can't believe I never thought of this before but, Goku did mention he didn't like using SSJ God, so he was most likely hesitant to use it's power to it's full extent. Goku also mentioned he was only putting forth 80% effort during the fight. When he absorbed SSJ God into his being, he most likely dropped whatever restraints he had and gave Beers a good fight.
From what I saw it was too one sided. I wasn't really entertained that much. Even without knowing the end result it was obvious Birus would win as he pretty much dominated the whole time. I was expecting it to be closer. But it was kinda boring seeing Goku just get smacked around after he got a God form. He has a new form and he just got stomped. These are just my first impressions.
Well Goku did land hits, the result is about what I'd expect from someone who's only using 70% of his power.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:14 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote: Well Goku did land hits, it's about what I'd expect from someone who's only using 70% of his power.
My problem is just Birus was so powerful that the fight was too one sided. In other movies it's understandable as Goku and the others join up and get stomped. But here he has the Ultimate Saiyan Power, and just gets completely dominated. That to me is boring. I wanna see an epic close fight with too supreme powers, instead it was just an ass kicking and a form that just like SSJ3 accomplishes nothing.
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Post by KaiserNeko » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:16 pm

Personally? I believe they're just setting up for a sequel. Bills sleeps for three more years, wakes up, and takes on Goku again. Meanwhile, Goku has been traveling to other dimensions, maybe with the others, and honing his power?
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TheMightyOzaru wrote: Well Goku did land hits, it's about what I'd expect from someone who's only using 70% of his power.
My problem is just Birus was so powerful that the fight was too one sided. In other movies it's understandable as Goku and the others join up and get stomped. But here he has the Ultimate Saiyan Power, and just gets completely dominated. That to me is boring. I wanna see an epic close fight with too supreme powers, instead it was just an ass kicking and a form that just like SSJ3 accomplishes nothing.
I actually liked the fact that we got a super bamf villain.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:20 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote: I actually liked the fact that we got a super bamf villain.
I don't mind Birus winning. It's just the Ultimate SSJ Form which should have given an awesome fight didn't really give one to Birus at all. It was just boring seeing Goku get smacked around and not really doing anything to Birus.
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TheMightyOzaru wrote: I actually liked the fact that we got a super bamf villain.
I don't mind Birus winning. It's just the Ultimate SSJ Form which should have given an awesome fight didn't really give one to Birus at all. It was just boring seeing Goku get smacked around and not really doing anything to Birus.
There's nothing wrong with the form itself, Goku just wasn't strong enough. Remember those days when Goku wasn't strong enough? It was clear he'd lose to Master Roshi. It's no different here. You have to remember, Beers is the god of destruction. He should, IMO, be able to outclass a SSJ God.
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TheMightyOzaru wrote: There's nothing wrong with the form itself, Goku just wasn't strong enough. Remember those days when Goku wasn't strong enough? It was clear he'd lose to Master Roshi. It's no different here. You have to remember, Beers is the god of destruction. He should, IMO, be able to outclass a SSJ God.
Even so he gives Muten Roshi one hell of a fight. Birus just gets a sparing session. I don't care what the story showed or how Birus was that much stronger. As a fight scene it's not fun to watch Goku get his ass kicked without putting up much of a fight. If Roshi curb stomped then the battle would not have been as fun as it was to watch.
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TheMightyOzaru wrote: There's nothing wrong with the form itself, Goku just wasn't strong enough. Remember those days when Goku wasn't strong enough? It was clear he'd lose to Master Roshi. It's no different here. You have to remember, Beers is the god of destruction. He should, IMO, be able to outclass a SSJ God.
Even so he gives Muten Roshi one hell of a fight. Birus just gets a sparing session. I don't care what the story showed or how Birus was that much stronger. As a fight scene it's not fun to watch Goku get his ass kicked without putting up much of a fight. If Roshi curb stomped then the battle would not have been as fun as it was to watch.
I don't know, I saw Beers get pissed off quite a few times sooooooooooooo....
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:36 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:Personally? I believe they're just setting up for a sequel. Bills sleeps for three more years, wakes up, and takes on Goku again. Meanwhile, Goku has been traveling to other dimensions, maybe with the others, and honing his power?
Add the fact that Chozenshuu 1 said that there are more untold stories about enemies attacking the Earth, and the fact that according to Chozenshuu 2, we will get more anime (Series? Movie(s)? OVA(s)? That, we don't know.), we will definitely see more.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote: There's nothing wrong with the form itself, Goku just wasn't strong enough. Remember those days when Goku wasn't strong enough? It was clear he'd lose to Master Roshi. It's no different here. You have to remember, Beers is the god of destruction. He should, IMO, be able to outclass a SSJ God.
Even so he gives Muten Roshi one hell of a fight. Birus just gets a sparing session. I don't care what the story showed or how Birus was that much stronger. As a fight scene it's not fun to watch Goku get his ass kicked without putting up much of a fight. If Roshi curb stomped then the battle would not have been as fun as it was to watch.
I don't know, I saw Beers get pissed off quite a few times sooooooooooooo....
Birus was pissed at Goku's thoughts on being a God. The fight with SSJ God was so one sided. SSJ Goku vs Birus however was pretty awesome and what the whole fight should have been. Instead we have Goku get his ass kicked the whole time.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:42 pm

Umm I don't see a problem here. If Goku using said God power put up a fight, you shouldn't be complaining. Who cares whether he had gold or red hair?
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:48 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Umm I don't see a problem here. If Goku using said God power put up a fight, you shouldn't be complaining. Who cares whether he had gold or red hair?
The only time the battle looked close was for the brief SSJ Goku vs Birus fight. Other than that the GOD FORM just got smacked around and didn't put up much of a fight. Unless you don't care for one sided fights as I usually hate them, It's not fun watching a one sided fight where only a brief moment looks like a close fight.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:50 pm

I haven't seen the film myself to say for certain obviously, but just going off of what others have said, I'm having a hard time imagining why Goku losing, even if it wasn't the best fight it could have been, is a problem in the long run. Isn't him losing instead of winning - again - one of the novelties of this movie? Sure feels like that to me...hell, just about anything is better than ending on another successful Genki Dama...
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