Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[TheMightyOzaru]

Umm I don't see a problem here. If Goku using said God power put up a fight, you shouldn't be complaining. Who cares whether he had gold or red hair?

The only time the battle looked close was for the brief SSJ Goku vs Birus fight. Other than that the GOD FORM just got smacked around and didn't put up much of a fight. Unless you don't care for one sided fights as I usually hate them, It's not fun watching a one sided fight where only a brief moment looks like a close fight.

But Goku put up a fight with the God powers so I fail to see the problem. This is pretty much a replication of Goku vs Freeza. Freeza smacks Goku around for a bit, then Goku goes SSJ and they have a fairly close fight until the end. The only difference is the "bad" guy emerges victorious.

[dbzfan7]

I haven't seen the film myself to say for certain obviously, but just going off of what others have said, I'm having a hard time imagining why Goku losing, even if it wasn't the best fight it could have been, is a problem in the long run. Isn't him losing instead of winning - again - one of the novelties of this movie? Sure feels like that to me...hell, just about anything is better than ending on another successful Genki Dama...

Goku losing isn't the problem. The fight being soo one sided is my problem. He obtains the Ultimate Super Saiyan Power, and gets his ass kicked in a fighting sequence that shows Birus has a big advantage. Imagine the Muten Roshi fight being one sided instead of an awesome close intense battle that it was.

But Goku put up a fight with the God powers so I fail to see the problem. This is pretty much a replication of Goku vs Freeza. Freeza smacks Goku around for a bit, then Goku goes SSJ and they have a fairly close fight until the end. The only difference is the "bad" guy emerges victorious.

Goku didn't put up a fight at all in SSJ God form. He just got kept getting smacked around. It was basically ten minutes of Birus beating Goku until Goku loses SSJ God. Funny how the fight got better when SSJ God wasn't around. Then Goku goes SSJ and we have 1 minute of something awesome, then it turns out Goku didn't really accomplish anything after the massive kamehameha. Goku saves the day and the fight was mostly boring.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I haven't seen the film myself to say for certain obviously, but just going off of what others have said, I'm having a hard time imagining why Goku losing, even if it wasn't the best fight it could have been, is a problem in the long run. Isn't him losing instead of winning - again - one of the novelties of this movie? Sure feels like that to me...hell, just about anything is better than ending on another successful Genki Dama...

Goku losing isn't the problem. The fight being soo one sided is my problem. He obtains the Ultimate Super Saiyan Power, and gets his ass kicked in a fighting sequence that shows Birus has a big advantage. Imagine the Muten Roshi fight being one sided instead of an awesome close intense battle that it was.

The fight is one-sided because Goku is reluctant to use a free power up. It's in character so I have no problem with it.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Like I said, haven't seen it so I can't fully judge - so maybe it is a little too one-sided to be fully enjoyable. The fact remains though that I'm liking the idea of the new powerup up FAILING more than I am of the idea of it being a success, since that's something we've only had like...once before in DBZ (with SS3's failings). It's still pretty unique to the franchise, and definitely is in the realm of it's movies.

[dbzfan7]

The fight is one-sided because Goku is reluctant to use a free power up. It's in character so I have no problem with it.

How many times do I have to say I don't care if the story states Goku was reluctant and didn't go all out right away. I'm strictly talking as an action scene in itself, which was boring to watch. Who wants to watch a fight scene where one guy doesn't stand a chance and gets casually beaten? It's not fun. I wanna see to guys have an equal bout. Birus can of course be holding back so it's understandable why it looked so equal, but he barely took any damage at all and had control of the entire fight. The only time it got interesting is after SSJ God goes away. The form that was supposed to be the highlight of the movie and be the best fight was actually not impressive at all. The movie should be called "One God stomps the other."

[JeffJarrett]

Super Saiyan God is a form for loosers. The first one lose to evil Saiyans, and Goku lose to Bills.

[dbzfan7]

Like I said, haven't seen it so I can't fully judge - so maybe it is a little too one-sided to be fully enjoyable. The fact remains though that I'm liking the idea of the new powerup up FAILING more than I am of the idea of it being a success, since that's something we've only had like...once before in DBZ (with SS3's failings). It's still pretty unique to the franchise, and definitely is in the realm of it's movies.

I'd expect it to at least put up some fight. At least SSJ3 put up a hell of a fight against Fat Boo, Kid Boo, and Super Boo. SSJ God however didn't put up much of a fight at all.

[UpFromTheSkies]

Does anyone know if a good sub has been made yet? All the subtitle files I've found in English so far are really terrible.

[jjgp1112]

Does anyone know if a good sub has been made yet? All the subtitle files I've found in English so far are really terrible.

Probably not a good idea to go around asking for bootlegs. Either wait for an English release or don't talk about it on here.

[VyeRo]

So I just saw the movie (yes, I know... but I paid 36 euros for my copy so there. )...

...And I really enjoyed it! This is how future DB movies should be made tbh. Highlights for me:
- the score
- the character interaction
- the story and the flashbacks. Don't ask me why but I was enthralled by Shenron's history lesson.

Spoiler:

Vegeta shushing Goku was brilliant, I guess he didn't want to miss out on a small part of his people's history.

- the gags. Vegeta dancing gave me so much secondhand embarrassment but I still laughed anyway.
- the fighting, though the animation bothered me sometimes and at some points I couldn't make out what was happening.
- Goku!
- Vegeta's rage moment and him being embarrassed by Goku at the end.
- Bulma. She acted like her old self again, obnoxious woman lol. And her slapping Beers, Oolong and Goku. Hilarious.
- Trunks' little crush on Mai.

Spoiler:

Did he grab her hand while they were up in that tree?! Sly dog.

- And of course the interaction between Bulma and Vegeta, can't deny my old shipper's heart!

I'm going to watch it again soon, but overall I really really liked it, and I consider the film a MAJOR improvement over the old style movies. For once it's not ALL about the fighting and I kind of prefer it that way. Forgot to add: I've concluded that I absolutely hate the new art style. It looks okay when characters are viewed up close, but from afar their bodies are less detailed and disproportionate. It's really noticeable with Vegeta. It's a lazy art style if you can call it that.

QUESTION:

Spoiler:

What did Vegeta say to Bulma and Goku while they were busy embarrassing him?

[Daimo-Rukiri]

Like I said, haven't seen it so I can't fully judge - so maybe it is a little too one-sided to be fully enjoyable. The fact remains though that I'm liking the idea of the new powerup up FAILING more than I am of the idea of it being a success, since that's something we've only had like...once before in DBZ (with SS3's failings). It's still pretty unique to the franchise, and definitely is in the realm of it's movies.

I'd expect it to at least put up some fight. At least SSJ3 put up a hell of a fight against Fat Boo, Kid Boo, and Super Boo. SSJ God however didn't put up much of a fight at all.

Goku pretty much rushed into battle after obtaining God mode, it's not like going Super Saiyan where you're really able to control it. This, like SSJ3 will require severe training before he can stay in the form for long periods of time as right now it's not very long and appears to be very draining like SSJ3. I'm sure if BOG 2 arrives he would have mastered it or at least able to sustain it in the time frame.

[FortuneSSJ]

Just watched and loved it.

strong points:
bills and ssj god
plot
animation
toriyama-sama gag
gohan and videl moment.
bardock reference
flow - Hero and Head Cha-la

flaws:
tarble became cannon
short battle scenes.
should have a better transition between the ost

Waiting for a sequel!

[dbzfan7]

Goku pretty much rushed into battle after obtaining God mode, it's not like going Super Saiyan where you're really able to control it. This, like SSJ3 will require severe training before he can stay in the form for long periods of time as right now it's not very long and appears to be very draining like SSJ3. I'm sure if BOG 2 arrives he would have mastered it or at least able to sustain it in the time frame.

I hope so. I'm not saying the movie was bad. I'm just saying watching a one sided fight isn't fun. I finally see the god form in action, and it doesn't put up a fight. Strictly as an action scene I was bored watching Birus pummel Goku. With SSJ3 Goku it made sense and was perfectly fine, with SSJ God Goku it's was just one god beating up another. When I think of Gods clashing I think an epic battle that can go either way as their overwhelming power clashes. Here it was so obvious that Goku was going to lose that the twist of Goku actually not winning isn't so special. If Birus was fighting equally with Goku and then mentioned Goku only did so well because he was holding back I would be satisfied. Instead Goku got smacked around and brought no challenge or excitement. (excluding post SSJ God).

[jjgp1112]

Anyone else found it kinda weird how arrogant and boastful Goku was acting after he showed off SSJ3?

[FortuneSSJ]

Anyone else found it kinda weird how arrogant and boastful Goku was acting after he showed off SSJ3?

he's a saiyan. I was more impressed of how he was frutasted for keeping with bills thanks to the others.
Even thought thats his character.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Just saw the movie... and it was amazing, the best Dragon Ball movie! It had great humor (Vegeta dancing was the funniest scene in the movie, and one of the funniest scenes in Dragon Ball), the beat-down was great (it made Beers feel like a really scary guy), the final fight was great, the music & the animation were great, and Beers is freaking awesome. Even though I knew what was going to happen, I didn't feel bored at all. And SSGod Goku absorbed Beers' ki blast?! And I'm not even sure if he kept it or not now... It seems that there are still mysteries about Super Saiyan God.

[JulieYBM]

In all likelihood the key animator simply felt like drawing Videl bigger. It happens a lot in other titles where an animation supervisor will intentionally make ladies bustier than the character model or reign in an animator who took the liberty of drawing a key animation drawing he felt like drawing.

Maybe because she is pregnant?

My guess is that they wanted to make her more feminine to clarify her role this time. Making her feminine is disappointing to me because it spoils her tomboyishness which I like. So, I felt kinda relieved when I saw her taking a fighting pose in Toriyama's poster.

Hey now, you can still kick ass and have big pai-pai!!

She kept the breasts, though, because Gohan liked them.

Gohan always was something of a mama's boy...

[mAcChaos]

I liked pretty much everything about it. I liked how it had DB elements. The animation was great, and the new characters that I thought would be lame ended up pretty cool. It made me curious about what else is out there in those 12 universes.

I was surprised how quickly Buu went on the warpath though. I figured he calmed down a lot more than that.

Also why did Gohan go SSJ, and how did Vegeta do better than SSJ3 Goku.

[TheGmGoken]

There's nothing wrong with the form itself, Goku just wasn't strong enough. Remember those days when Goku wasn't strong enough? It was clear he'd lose to Master Roshi. It's no different here. You have to remember, Beers is the god of destruction. He should, IMO, be able to outclass a SSJ God.

Even so he gives Muten Roshi one hell of a fight. Birus just gets a sparing session. I don't care what the story showed or how Birus was that much stronger. As a fight scene it's not fun to watch Goku get his ass kicked without putting up much of a fight. If Roshi curb stomped then the battle would not have been as fun as it was to watch.

I kinda agree. With all the hype SSG GOD got. You think they would't have him get his ass kicked. I understand Birsu is strong as fuck and Goku hates the SSG form but damn.

[KaiserNeko]

Also why did Gohan go SSJ, and how did Vegeta do better than SSJ3 Goku.

The first one isn't really explained, but we're all guessing it was to just match everyone else going SSJ during that sequence. It's never actually said he CAN'T go SSJ, only that it's unnecessary.

And again, I'll post this:

2. Easily explained: In that instant, his power spiked ridiculously high because of an emotional break. It's not a huge gap in logic to believe a Super Saiyan 2 can be more powerful than a Super Saiyan 3 for a few moments if that individual lets out all of their power at once. If you'll notice, Vegeta seems to have exhausted his energy with that short attack.