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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Perfect » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:08 am

http://www.universodragonball.com/index ... id_nodo=93

I didn't realize anyone viewed Piccolo over Perfect Cell.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Saiga » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:20 am

It has Gohan after training with the Z sword being higher than Ultimate Gohan.

Lol wut.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Kaboom » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:56 pm

We've got the forum back, and it's sexier than ever! What better way to commemorate this joyous occasion than by posting some more power levels! Movies part 2, engage!

EDIT: See my signature for the up-to-date list!


... Yaaaaay! Forum's back!


EDIT: Oh hey, I nearly forgot; I made up a little something special in time for April Fools Day, but since the forums didn't go up along with the rest of the site, I couldn't post it. So here we go!

KABOOM'S AWESOME AND TOTALLY SERIOUS GT POWER LEVELS LIST VERSION 1.0
MULTIPLIERS:
"Super" Saiyan: x1.1
"Super" Saiyan 3: x1.3
"Super" Saiyan 4: x1.5
[Note: All numbers presented are in units of Gazillions]
THE GRAND TOUR
  • Son Goku - 500
    • Super Saiyan - 550
    Pan - 10
    • Angry - 500
      • Bitchy - 800
    Trunks - 50
    • Super Saiyan - 55
      • + Sparks - 60
        • In Drag - 36-24-36
    Gill - 666

    Shilla - 10
    Ghel - 10
    Redict- 500,000

    Mega-Oolong - 3

    Don Para - 1
    Bon Para - 1
    Son Para - 1
    John Para - 3

    Muma Worms - 1,000,000,000

    That whip guy - 1
    That real whip guy who was actually the whip itself - 20

    Lewd - 500

    Doctor Mew - 1
    Doctor Mewtwo - 200,000

    Sigma Robot #1 - 2
    Sigma Robot #2 - 3
    Sigma Robot #3 - 4
    Combined Sigma Robots - 5

    General Rild - 200
    Specific Rild - 300

    Baby - .00000001
    Bebi - 5

    Little Alien Boy - 500,000
    • Possessed by Beby - 5
THE BATTLE WITH BEBBI
  • Son Goten - 30
    • Super Saiyan - 33
      • Possessed by Babby - 5
    Son Gohan - 15
    • Super Saiyan - 17
      • Possessed by Bobby - 5
    Vegeta - 100
    • Super Saiyan - 110
      • Possessed by Boobies - 5
        • + Saiya-powah - 400
          • Showing off his Gigantic Shiny Monkey - 1000
    Majin Boo - 1
    Oob - 40
    • Merged with Boo - 41
    Son Goku - 2,000
    • Super Saiyan 3 - 2600
      • Super Saiyan 4 - 3000
SUPER ICE CREAM SANDWICH 17
  • Old 17 - 1
    New 17 - 5
    Souper 17 - 5000
    • + Stupid People's Power - 6000
      • + More Stupid People's Power - 7000
        • Mildly distracted by 18's attack - 1
    Freeza - 12
    Cell - 500

    Son Goten - 20
    • Super Saiyan - 22
    Trunks - 40
    • Super Saiyan - 44
    Oob - 25
    Son Gohan - 10
    • Super Saiyan - 11
    Vegeta - 70
    • Super Saiyan - 77
    Son Goku - 10,000
    • Super Saiyan - 11,000
      • Super Saiyan 4 - 15,000
        • Magical Toei-power Dragon - 100,000
THE MISUNDERSTOOD DRAGONS
  • Bloaty Gas Dragon - 10
    • Cleaning up his community park - 50
    Giant Slimy Electric Dragon - 20
    • Donating emergency electric power to an entire county - 40
    Disguised as a Chick Dragon - 30
    • Campaigning for transvestite rights - 50
    Big Ugly Mole Dragon - 40
    • Digging new subway tunnels for an overpopulated city - 60
    Trogdor - 50
    • Providing free heating for a poor village in the North - 70
    Rodgort - 50
    • Using ice to preserve food for a desert village - 70
    Spikey Mustached Dragon - 80
      • Helping to build a playground - 100
        Even Spikier Mustached Dragon - 150
        • Working 3 jobs to raise 2 foster children - 200
    Pan - 4

    Son Gohan - 10
    • Super Saiyan - 11
      • Randomly complimented by Vegeta - 2000
    Trunks - 40
    • Super Saiyan - 44
      • Being brave - 4000
    Son Goten - 20
    • Super Saiyan - 22
      • Goten doesn’t get a power-up - 22
    Oob - Was he even in this arc?
    Vegeta - 20
    • Super Saiyan 4 - 30
    Gogeta - 500
    • Super Saiyan 4 - 750
    Son Goku - 50,000,000
    • Super Saiyan 4 - 75,000,000
      • Shirtless - 1,000,000,000
        • + Dragon Balls - 5,000,000,000
        • + Toei's mouth around his "special area" - 10,000,000,000


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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:00 pm

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Don't know where to begin, so I went with one of the easier ones.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Saiga » Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:41 pm

That GT list was amazing!

Goten doesn't get a powerup, Toei's mouth around Goku's "special area", etc. :lol:
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by CatouttaHell » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:22 pm

Got bored and decided to make a troll/joke list myself. This list purposefully ignores most of the implications in the manga and thus shouldn't be taken seriously.

This list follows the implication of the official numbers for Zarbon (23,000) and Dodoria (22,000) thus:

1.09x = Enough to tank blasts and move faster than opponent can see.
1.04x gap = Enough to completely dominate opponent

Multipliers

Saiya-jin Forms
~ Super Saiya-jin 3 - 1.5x SSjin 2
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 2x SSjin
~ Super Saiya-jin Grade 3 - 1.4x SSjin
~ Super Saiya-jin Grade 2 - 1.2x SSjin
~ Super Saiya-jin - 50x base
~ Great Ape - 10x base

Cell arc

Arrival of Trunks

Son Gokū
~ Super Saiya-jin - 155,000,000
~ Base - 3,100,000

Trunks
~ Super Saiya-jin - 150,000,000
~ Base - 3,000,000
~ Suppressed - 5

Mecha-Freeza
~ Initial - 108,000,000
~ Full Power - 144,000,000

King Cold - 90,000,000

Vegeta - 3,120,000

Piccolo Daimaō - 4,000,000

Son Gohan - 800,000

Tenshinhan - 10,000
Kuririn - 25,000
Yamucha - 5,000
Chaozu - 3,000

Artificial Humans arc

Son Gokū
~ Super Saiya-jin - 168,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin (Sick, Initial) - 155,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin (Power Dropping) - 145,000,000
~ Base - 3,360,000
~ Base (Sick, Initial) - 3,100,000

Trunks
~ Super Saiya-jin - 166,000,000
~ Base - 3,320,000

Doctor Gero
~ Initial - 110,000,000
~ Post-Absorptions - 140,000,000

Android No. 19
~ Initial - 100,000,000
~ Post-Absorptions - 150,000,000

Vegeta
~ Super Saiya-jin - 171,000,000
~ Base - 3,420,000

Piccolo Daimaō - 154,000,000

Son Gohan - 1,500,000

Tenshinhan - 20,000
Kuririn - 50,000
Yamucha - 10,000
Chaozu - 6,000

Cyborg No. 18 - 186,000,000
Cyborgl No. 17 - 188,000,000
Android No. 16 - 207,000,000

Cell Arrives

Cell
~ First Form Initial - 172,000,000
~ First Form Post-Absorptions - 210,000,000
~ Second Form Initial - 228,000,000
~ Second Form Full Power - 240,000,000
~ Perfect-form Initial - 258,000,000
~ Powered Up - 283,000,000

Tenshinhan
~ Shin Kikōhō - 270,000,000
~ Base - 20,000

Vegeta
~ Super Saiya-jin Grade 2 - 260,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 216,000,000
~ Base - 4,320,000

Trunks
~ Super Saiya-jin Grade 3 - 292,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin Grade 2 - 252,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 210,000,000
~ Base - 4,200,000

Nameless Namekseijin
~ Weighted - 186,000,000
~ Unweighted - 188,000,000
~ Fatigued - 180,000

Cell Games

Perfect-form Cell
~ Initial - 283,000,000
~ Suppressed - 580,000,000
~ Full Power - 800,000,000
~ Post-Self Destruction - 1,100,000,000

Son Gokū
~ Super Saiya-jin - 560,000,000
~ 50% Super Saiya-jin - 280,000,000
~ Base - 11,200,000

Son Gohan
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,180,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 590,000,000
~ Base - 11,800,000

Vegeta
~ Super Saiya-jin - 480,000,000
~ Base - 9,600,000

Trunks
~ Super Saiya-jin - 450,000,000
~ Base - 9,000,000

Cell Juniors - 480,000,000

Nameless Namekseijin - 420,000,000

Tenshinhan - 20,000
Kuririn - 50,000
Yamucha - 10,000
Chaozu - 6,000

Android No. 16 - 207,000,000

The Future

Trunks
~ Super Saiya-jin - 450,000,000
~ Base - 9,000,000

Cyborg No. 18 - 180,000,000
Cyborg No. 17 - 175,000,000

First Form Cell - 207,000,000

Boo arc

25th Tenkaichi Budoukai

Son Gokū
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,200,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 600,000,000

~ Base - 12,000,000

Son Gohan
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,040,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 520,000,000
~ Base - 10,400,000

Vegeta
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,100,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 550,000,000

~ Base - 11,000,000

Son Goten
~ Super Saiya-jin - 5
~ Base - 0.1
  • The Daizenshuu statement about Goten not being inferior to Gohan in the least was talking about Gohan when he was a fetus..
Chibi Trunks
~ Super Saiya-jin - 5.2
~ Base - 0.14

Mister Satan - 5
Videl (Pre-Training) - 5.2
Videl (Post-Training) - 5.5

Spopovich
~ Suppressed - 5.8
~ Unseen True Power - ∞

Yamu - 6

Nameless Namekseijin - 550,000,000

Kaiōshin - 650,000,000

Kibito - 10,500,000
  • Kaiōshin stated all of the Kaioshins were powerful enough to one-shot Freeza, but gave no indication of Kibito being capable of this feat.
Tenshinhan - 30,000
Kuririn - 44,000
Yamucha - 15,000
Chaozu - 9,000

Majin Boo

Demon Prince Vegeta
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,200,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 600,000,000
~ Base - 12,000,000

Babidi - 5
Dabra - 510,000,000
Yakon - 12,000,000
Pui-Pui - 1,200

Cyborg No. 18 - 186,000,000
  • Her fear and using an extremely dangerous attack to end the match were only because she realised she really had to go piss and couldn't afford to draw the fight out any longer.
Majin Boo (Dai Kaiōshin Absorbed)
~ Initial - 700,000,000
~ Power Up I - 1,000,000,000
~ Power Up II - 1,500,000,000

Appearance of the Super Saiya-jin 3

Son Gokū
~ Super Saiya-jin 3 - 1,800,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,200,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 600,000,000
~ Base - 12,000,000

Majin Boo (Dai Kaiōshin Absorbed) - 1,500,000,000

Elder Kaiōshin - 10,000

Gotenks
~ Super Saiya-jin - 660,000,000
~ Base - 13,200,000

Fusion

Evil Boo
~ Pure Evil Boo - 850,000,000
~ Evil Boo - 2,000,000,000
~ Gotenks Absorbed - 4,100,000,000
~ Gohan Absorbed - 4,300,000,000

Son Goten (Post-RoSaT)
~ Super Saiya-jin - 6
~ Base - 0.12

Chibi Trunks (Post-RoSaT)
~ Super Saiya-jin - 6.5
~ Base - 0.13

Gotenks (Post-RoSaT)
~ Super Saiya-jin 3 - 2,100,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,400,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 700,000,000
~ Base - 14,000,000

Ultimate Gohan - 2,300,000,000

Kibitoshin - 1,500,000,000

Vegeta
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,200,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 600,000,000
~ Base - 12,000,000

Vegetto
~ Super Saiya-jin 3 - 7,200,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 4,800,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 2,400,000,000
~ Base - 48,000,000
  • Had sparks when he transformed.
The Final Battle

Pure Boo (South Kaiōshin Absorbed) - 2,200,000,000

Pure Boo - 1,750,000,000

Son Gokū
~ Super Saiya-jin 3 - 1,800,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,200,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 600,000,000
~ Base - 12,000,000

Vegeta
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,200,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 600,000,000
~ Base - 12,000,000

Good Boo - 650,000,000

Ten Years Later

Son Gokū
~ Super Saiya-jin 3 - 1,950,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,300,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 650,000,000

~ Base - 13,000,000

Vegeta
~ Super Saiya-jin 2 - 1,300,000,000
~ Super Saiya-jin - 650,000,000

~ Base - 13,000,000

Mister Boo - 650,000,000

Oob
~ Initial - 1.5
~ Rage Burst - 13,500,000

Son Pan - 1

Nameless Namekseijin - 750,000,000

Son Gohan - 2,300,000,000

Son Goten
~ Super Saiya-jin - 5
~ Base - 0.1

Trunks
~ Super Saiya-jin - 5
~ Base - 0.1
  • Got weaker from slacking off.
Tenshinhan - 45,000
Kuririn - 35,000
Yamucha - 22,500
Chaozu - 13,500
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:36 pm

OK then, so I made battle power lists for the DBZ movies. It can be kind of awkward doing so at times, because of Toei and their inconsistency with power-scaling, but I tried my best. Sorry if I ripped off your format, Kaboom. Anyway, let's begin!

DBZ Movie #1 – Return My Gohan!!

Son Gokuu: 334
Without weights: 416

Piccolo: 322
Without weights: 408

Son Gohan: 1
Enraged: 1,307

Kuririn: 206
The above are all taken from the beginning of the Saiyan arc, since that's what this movie parallels.

God of Earth: 280
I made the God of Earth somewhat weaker than his 23rd TB self (in-universe reason: he's getting old), giving room for Garlic. Jr to be strong enough to easily beat him up, but still weaker than Gokuu and Piccolo, requiring him to transform.

Garlic Jr: 300
Bulked-up: 480
His bulked-up state tore through Gokuu and Piccolo, but once they took off their weights and attacked together, they temporarily overwhelmed him.

Nikki: 215
Bulked-up: 258

Ginger: 218
Bulked-up: 261

Sansho: 222
Bulked-up: 265
Ganging up on an off-guard Piccolo, they managed to defeat him, but one or even two-on-one, they were nothing special.

DBZ Movie #2 – The World’s Strongest Guy

Son Gokuu: 8,012
Kaiouken: 16,024
Kaiouken x3: 24,036
Kaiouken x4, Kamehameha: 36,000
Taken from the Saiyan arc, as the movie's a parallel to the fight with the Saiyans, and applied mandatory Kaiouken multipliers.

Son Gohan: 1,050
Enraged: 9,000
His rage is unpredictable, but I believe that Gohan, enraged over his inability to stop Gokuu and brainwashed Piccolo's fight, was at least stronger than base Gokuu, frightening even Dr. Kochin and damaging him, the surrounding area, and Piccolo's mind control device.

Piccolo: 2,400
Kuririn: 1,770
Kame-sennin: 139
Piccolo only put up a good fight against Gokuu because the latter didn't want to hurt him.

Dr. Uiro: 20,000
Full power: 40,000
Gokuu's Kaiouken x3 managed to break off his arm, but Uiro's blast overpowered Gokuu's KKx3 Kamehameha. Once he took it up to KKx4, however, Uiro was blasted into orbit. According to the heroes as they flew up to meet him, his power was "still rising".

Dr. Kochin: 100
Biomen: 85
Brutal Warriors: 6,500
Kochin was nothing more than Uiro's robot lackey, and the Biomen (who only beat up Gohan because he was off-guard and, well, he's Gohan) were wrecked by Muten Roushi. The Brutal Warriors (Misokattsun, Kishime and Ebifurya, who held back on Muten Roushi before defeating him) gave Gokuu some trouble, but that was mainly because of their special techniques and the fact that Son was inhibited by the cold.

DBZ Movie #3 – A Super Decisive Battle for Earth

Son Gokuu: 34,000
Kaiouken: 68,000
Kaiouken x10: 340,000
Tullece noted his power to be "30,000 and rising", and the standard Kaiouken boosts apply here.

Son Gohan: 10,000
Oozaru: 100,000
Stated BP and standard x10 Oozaru boost.

Piccolo: 18,000
Kuririn: 6,500
Yamcha: 5,500
Tenshinhan: 7,000
Chaozu: 4,000
Another stated BP, for Piccolo. Because Gokuu, Gohan and Piccolo are stronger than they were against the Saiyans, but weaker than they were on Namek, I applied the same for the others, while still having them weaker than Tullece's cronies.

Amond: 9,000
Daiz: 8,500
Kakao: 8,000
Rezun: 7,500
Rakasei: 7,500
Amond seems to be the second-in-command, therefore he's the strongest, while Rezun and Rakasei are the weakest because they're the smallest and fight together. Daiz and Kakao, who briefly ganged up on Gokuu, are in the middle.

Tullece: 34,000
Fruit 1: 400,000
Fruit 2: 650,000
I believe that Tullece was only surprised by Gokuu's battle power because of the whole "low-class Saiyan sent to a backwater planet like Earth", since it's not as if he was necessarily losing against him. Once he ate a fresh Shinseijuu fruit, he was strong enough to outrun and spank Gokuu's Kaiouken x10. After that, he ate another fruit, but it wasn't enough to survive Gokuu's Genki-Dama taken from the tree itself.

DBZ Movie #4 – Super Saiyan Son Gokuu

Son Gokuu: 90,000
Super Saiyan: 900,000
Kaiouken x100: 9,000,000
Base's taken from the Ginyuu portion of the Freeza arc, and because SS hadn't even debuted in the manga yet and it had to be lower than both Giant Slug and Gokuu's Kaiouken against him, I made it a x10 boost. Maybe the Kaiouken boosts are lower too, since Gokuu didn't even bother to use it (or maybe, in this universe, he never mastered it, but only managed to use it after borrowing Piccolo's ki) until after he'd had a can of Namekian whoop-ass emptied on him and needed Piccolo to rejuvenate him. A V-Jump scan or something says that Gokuu used Kaiouken x100, so I guess that's due to Piccolo's energy (his aura was really big).

Son Gohan: 12,000
Piccolo: 50,000
Kuririn: 11,000
Chi-Chi: 90
Once again, taken from the Ginyuu portion of the Freeza arc. Piccolo's BP is a fairly arbitrary level that's at least stronger than Slug's goons, since he defeated one and was only downed by the other two because of Angira surprise-grabbing his legs and then him and Medamaccha barraging him with ki blasts when he was off-guard shielding Gohan.

Demon Clan Soldiers: 60—120
Chi-Chi knocked out a soldier in one hit, but herself was downed in one blow another, so it's safe to say that they vary in power, with Chi-Chi in the middle.

Zeiun: 35,000
Dorodabo: 40,000
Medamaccha: 42,000
Angira: 45,000
They parallel the Ginyuu Special-Squad, with Gokuu even killing the latter two in similar ways. Zeiun's the weakest because, well, he was killed off first (although it was Slug who did so), but other than that, we just didn't see that much of him. Dorodabo's second weakest because, while he was knocked down Gohan in one sweep, he was killed by Piccolo, while Medamaccha and Angira (whom Piccolo had a bit of trouble shaking off his legs) were the only two who survived before Gokuu came onto the scene.

Slug: 85,000
Youth restored: 250,000
Giant: 2,500,000
To go along with the general trend of "main villain fights evenly/is beaten by main hero > villain transforms and turns tables", I like to think Slug was somewhat weaker than Gokuu before he regained his youth and subsequently pwned him. I basically ripped the x10 boost for Slug's giant form from Oozaru (similar transformation, I guess, although I guess the reason Slug's power grew when he was a giant while Piccolo wasn't, was because he's a Super Namekian). After enlarging, Kaiou mentioned that Slug's power "surpassed Freeza, and perhaps even a Super Saiyan", and I'll assume that Kaiou was referring to Freeza's first form (I'll assume that the dead Z-Warriors were somehow revived and Freeza was defeated on Namek without any transformations or whatever) and the "Super Saiyan" that Gokuu had displayed earlier.

DBZ Movie #5 – The Incredible Strongest vs. Strongest

Son Gokuu: 3,300,000
Kaiouken x10: 33,000,000
Kaiouken x20: 66,000,000
Kaiouken x20, Kamehameha: 76,000,000
Super Saiyan: 165,000,000
I think this movie assumes that Gokuu had killed Freeza on Namek (no mention of King Cold from Coola) and escaped to Earth on his spaceship in time, but before a year passes, since Gohan looks just like he did on Namek, both in age and appearance (and he looked older when Trunks came to Earth). But it's not long since Gokuu came back to Earth, as he still can't transform into a Super Saiyan at will.

Kame-sennin mentions that Gokuu had become stronger since he'd returned from Namek, so I made him about as strong as his Yardrat self. Since the movie's a parallel to the battle with Freeza, I decided that Gokuu was using Kaiouken x10 and x20 (when he used that Kamehameha) against Coola before kicking it up to SS.


Son Gohan: 400,000
Tail grabbed: 50
Same BP as in the Freeza arc, since Chi-Chi wouldn't have let Gokuu train him in times of peace, and it's shown that he was back in education. His BP when Dora grabbed his tail was stated in the movie.

Piccolo: 1,625,000
Kuririn: 35,000
Both taken from the Freeza arc. I guess I didn't bother raising their power from beforehand, even though I'm sure they would've been training, just because. There's no real need anyway, and it's still a parallel to the Freeza fight.

Dore: 450,000
Neiz: 470,000
Sauzer: 500,000
Strong enough to smoke Gohan and Kuririn, but not strong enough to beat Piccolo, who killed Dore and Neiz. Sauza put up a decent fight, but it was clear that Piccolo wasn't having any trouble, so Coola had to step in and Death Beam him.

Coola: 3,200,000
Transformed: 140,000,000
His fourth form's slightly weaker than Gokuu, as I recall that Gokuu landed a good number of hits on him. But once he transformed, Gokuu remarked that he was even stronger than Freeza, presumably his 100% power. I put him equal to Mecha Freeza, but still weaker than Super Saiyan Gokuu.

DBZ Movie #6 – Clash!! 10,000,000,000 Powerful Warriors

Son Gokuu: 4,600,000
Kaiouken x20: 92,000,000
Super Saiyan: 230,000,000
Taken from the early Android arc (I'll assume that God retired for some reason and, like in the main continuity, Gokuu fetched Dende as replacement from New Namek), only swapped round his and Vegeta's powers because, well, Gokuu's the main hero here and got to deliver the finishing blow. I assumed that he was using Kaiouken x20 because anything less would be stupid. Yes, I realize what I just said, but whatever.

Vegeta: 4,500,000
Super Saiyan: 225,000,000

Piccolo: 135,000,000
Son Gohan: 1,000,000
Kuririn: 75,000
Due to Gokuu and Vegeta appearing strongest here, as they get to fight the main villain while Piccolo and co. are lumped with the henchmen, Piccolo hasn't merged with God and is, therefore, weaker than the Super Saiyans.

Soldier Robots: 50,000
Once Piccolo, Gohan and Kuririn concentrated their ki with each hit, these guys were defeated.

Meta Coola 1: 200,000,000
Meta Coola 2: 260,000,000
Meta Coola 3+: 320,000,000
Ghette-Coola: 260,000,000
Each time they were defeated, the Meta Coolas grew stronger. So Gokuu soon tore through the first Meta Coola, who regenerated and turned the tables. Then he and Vegeta were both smashed by him, until they barely managed to tear through him again using all their strength. Then hundreds of them, even stronger, appear before them, and they are forcibly brought to the main computer. Coola's core says that his power hadn't dropped that much, so I just relegated him to his "Meta Coola 2" form.

DBZ Movie #7 – Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans

Son Gokuu: 4,600,000
Super Saiyan: 230,000,000
Genki-Dama absorbed: 500,000,000
Same as #6; swapped round Gokuu and Vegeta's powers. I actually do think that this movie could fit into one of the alternate timelines of the main series that the time machine created (in which they find #17 and #18's blueprints and Blooma creates a remote control from them, which they use to shut them down and destroy them), although alternatively, it could just be a universe where Vegeta killed the Androids.

Anyway, Gokuu fights evenly with #13 before he absorbs #14 and #15's computer chips, then puts the smackdown on the heroes until SS Gokuu absorbs the Genki-Dama and deals the crushing blow to his abdomen.


Vegeta: 4,500,000
Super Saiyan: 225,000,000

Trunks: 4,300,000
Super Saiyan: 215,000,000
Bumped up Trunks so #14 and #15's performances against the Super Saiyans would make more sense.

Piccolo: 135,000,000
The three Super Saiyans, billed in the title, still appear to be the strongest, getting to fight the main villains while Piccolo, who hasn't merged with God, only comes in later.

Android #13: 230,000,000
Merged: 340,000,000
Equal to SS Gokuu before merging with his fellow Androids, then wrecks the Super Saiyans and Piccolo before Gokuu unleashes the power of the Genki-Dama on him.

Android #14: 190,000,000
Android #15: 180,000,000
The Saiyans seem to have trouble with the Androids in both base and SS, so I decided that, despite appearing focused on their mission, the Androids were simply holding back. Maybe they were still a little faulty, or just wanted to play around with Gokuu and co. for a while. #15's the brains to #14's brawn, but also because he's the smallest.

DBZ Movie #8 – Burn Up!! A Close, Intense, Super-Fierce Battle

Son Gokuu: 13,000,000
Super Saiyan: 650,000,000
Ki absorbed: 2,000,000,000
Alternate universe where Cell was killed by Vegeta or Trunks, and Gokuu and Gohan left the RoSaT early (maybe Mr. Popo told them that Cell was dead, thus no need to continue training), having mastered SS, but not gained the amount of strength we see at the Cell Games.

Son Gohan: 10,400,000
Super Saiyan: 520,000,000
Because Gokuu hadn't awakened more of his dormant power due to leaving the RoSaT early, Gohan's the weakest of the heroes here, as he certainly doesn't seem stronger than Gokuu. Just because he's a Super Saiyan doesn't mean he has to be stronger than Piccolo, who was the strongest out of all the heroes until recently.

Vegeta: 8,000,000
Super Saiyan: 400,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade II: 600,000,000
Due to no Cell Games, there's no requirement for Vegeta and Trunks' second trip into the RoSaT, therefore no further refining of the regular Super Saiyan. So they continued to use SSG2. Vegeta's kick bounces off SS Broli's neck, much like Perfect Cell.

Trunks: 7,800,000
Super Saiyan: 390,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade II: 580,000,000
Same as above.

Piccolo: 550,000,000
He doesn't appear that far off the others, so an in-universe explanation is that he trained in the RoSaT while the others were relaxing because, well, it's available to him as he lives at God's Palace anyway, and/or he wanted to surpass the Super Saiyans.

Paragus: 5,000
Presumably an elite Saiyan if he was able to meet with King Vegeta personally, but not stronger than Nappa, who I percieve as probably the strongest (or one of the strongest) elite Saiyans.

Broli: 14,000,000
Suppressed: 3,000
Super Saiyan: 700,000,000
Legendary Super Saiyan: 1,300,000,000
At his initial appearance in the movie, he seems just like an ordinary Saiyan, but when he transforms into a Super Saiyan, he's strong enough to tank Super Vegeta's Big Bang Attack. Then he fully breaks loose from his father's mind control device, transforming into the Legendary Super Saiyan (which I class as something akin to a potential "Super Saiyan Grade 4", but with none of the disadvantages), but is defeated by Gokuu's TOEI PAWNCH!

King Vegeta: 11,000
Baby Broli: 10,000
Baby Gokuu: 2
King Vegeta's BP is taken from the Bardock special.

DBZ Movie #9 – Galaxy at the Brink!! The Super-Incredible Guy

Son Gohan: 30,000,000
Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Angry SS2: 3,500,000,000

Vegeta: 14,000,000
Super Saiyan: 700,000,000

Trunks: 13,600,000
Super Saiyan: 680,000,000

Piccolo: 650,000,000

Kuririn: 75,000
Tenshinhan: 65,000
Yamcha: 45,000

Mr. Satan: 7
Dosukoi: 6
Udo: 6
All lifted from the Cell Games. Trunks fought evenly with Tenshinhan until he transformed and ended the match because he was holding back, putting on a good show for the audience. And no, I'm not quoting the dub here; it's similar to how Kuririn asked Gokuu to go all-out against him or else he'd never forgive him when they fought at the 22nd TB, but Gokuu held back anyway because he didn't want to kill him.

Gokua: 500,000,000
Transformed: 640,000,000
Gokua has the overwhelming advantage before and after he transforms, but when Trunks transforms as well, a perfectly-placed fist through his stomach is enough to kill him.

Zangya: 660,000,000
Bujin: 680,000,000
Bido: 700,000,000
Without transforming, they're even stronger than Gokua for some reason (Trunks briefly fights Zangya one-on-one, but before he can do anything more than a few exchanges of blows, he's paralyzed), but they mainly had the advantage over Trunks and co. due to that psychic energy-trapping thing. Bido's the strongest because he's the largest.

Bojack: 1,300,000,000
Transformed: 2,000,000,000
He easily floored Piccolo and Vegeta, although after he transformed, Gohan put up a decent fight against him before he was paralyzed by his henchmen. But then he transformed and defeated Bojack and co.

DBZ Movie #10 – The Dangerous Duo! Super-Warriors Can’t Rest

Son Gohan: 30,000,000
Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2: 3,000,000,000
Taken from the Boo arc, as this is "set" in the month training for the 25th Tenkaichi Budoukai. Judging by the design sheets, Gohan's SS2 against Broli, but SS when he fires his Kamehameha, due to energy exhaustion.

Son Goten: 6,000,000
Super Saiyan: 300,000,000

Trunks: 6,400,000
Super Saiyan: 320,000,000

Videl: 8

Broli: 37,000,000
Super Saiyan: 1,850,000,000
Legendary Super Saiyan: 3,600,000,000
As stated in the design sheets, he's become stronger since his defeat by Gokuu. Presumably, Broli was holding back when he fought base Gohan (who was still losing anyway), and then they both transformed. He floored Gohan, but the half-Saiyan could still put up a fight, actually managing to stun him with a few hits, which is much more than any of the heroes accomplished in the first Broli film (excluding Gokuu's Toei Punch).

DBZ Movie #11 – Super Warrior Defeat!! I’m The One Who’ll Win

Son Goten: 6,000,000
Super Saiyan: 300,000,000

Trunks: 6,400,000
Super Saiyan: 320,000,000

Kuririn: 75,000
Android #18: 250,000,000
Mr. Satan: 7

Bio-Broli: 400,000,000
Bio-Warriors: 100
Broli's become much weaker than before, since Goten and Trunks were able to put up a bit of a fight against the walking pile of sludge. The Bio-Warriors were apparently too much for Satan to handle, but weak sauce to #18 and the boys.

DBZ Movie #12 – Rebirth of Fusion!! Gokuu and Vegeta

Son Gokuu: 52,500,000
Super Saiyan: 2,625,000,000
Super Saiyan 2: 5,250,000,000
Super Saiyan 3: 10,500,000,000
Vegeta mentioned that Gokuu had gotten stronger training in the afterlife, so he's somewhat stronger than his Boo arc incarnation.

Son Gohan: 30,000,000
Videl: 8
Mr. Satan: 7
Gohan doesn't look Ultimate here, and even if he had gotten training with the Z-Sword and increased in power, it's not worth noting.

Vegeta: 45,000,000
Super Saiyan: 2,250,000,000
Super Saiyan 2: 4,500,000,000
He's retained the dormant power that Bobbodi had brought out beyond his limits, as it was still his power, not Bobbodi's. He's just lost the possession and returned to his natural body.

Son Goten: 6,000,000
Super Saiyan: 300,000,000

Trunks: 6,400,000
Super Saiyan: 320,000,000

Super Gotenks: 7,500,000,000
Presuming that SS3 Gokuu had defeated Boo, Gotenks hasn't changed in power (or trained to get up the power he would have if he'd trained in the RoSaT) and probably invented the Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack training on his own. Even in the main story, he may've had it within him before his stint in the RoSaT.

Super Gogeta: 55,000,000,000
Due to Potara fusion being stronger than Metamorian fusion, Gogeta's slightly weaker than Vegetto, but he's still more than strong enough to do away with Janenba.

Paikuhan: 5,500,000,000
He previously defeated Super-perfect Cell in one hit and later crushed Gokuu. He would've been training too, so he's a tad stronger than SS2 Gokuu.

Janenba: 7,500,000,000
Transformed: 15,000,000,000
Gokuu says that Janenba has the strongest ki he's ever felt, and references Fat Boo, so Janenba must be at least stronger than Fat Boo. Once Gokuu kicks it up to SS3, it's overkill, but then the transformed Janenba stomps him.

DBZ Movie #13 – Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Gokuu Won’t Do It, Who Will?

Son Gokuu: 125,000,000
Super Saiyan: 6,250,000,000
Super Saiyan 2: 12,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 3: 25,000,000,000
For some reason, SS3 Gokuu appears stronger than both Gotenks and Gohan here, taking Hildegarn's blows better than them. As an in-universe explanation, I suppose, considering that this is set sometime after the Boo arc, he's been training and is, therefore, stronger than before, but still not enough to defeat Hildegarn without the Dragon Fist.

Son Gohan: 15,000,000,000
Videl: 8
Due to Gokuu being stronger than him, I downscaled him, with the in-universe reason that he slacked off and lost some power.

Vegeta: 115,000,000
Super Saiyan: 5,750,000,000
Super Saiyan 2: 11,500,000,000
I upscaled Vegeta along with Gokuu, since he'd be training just as hard as him.

Son Goten: 8,000,000
Super Saiyan: 400,000,000

Trunks: 8,500,000
Super Saiyan: 425,000,000
Upscaled the boys because Gotenks has become stronger. Since they're still kids who'd play-fight with each other for fun, their strengths increased.

Super Gotenks 3: 20,000,000,000
He seems stronger than Gohan, as he actually manages to easily evade Hildegarn and nail his back with his Rapid-Fire Die-Die Missiles, forcing him to transform. But once he does so, he's knocked out of his fusion in one blow. But he's weaker than SS3 Gokuu, who could actually take Hildegarn's blows.

Hildegarn
Separate parts: 9,000,000,000
Combined: 18,000,000,000
Transformed: 30,000,000,000
Tail removed: 27,500,000,000
His lower half was nothing special once Gohan discovered his weakness, but then the two halves merge and, using his overwhelming power and ectoplasm-teleporting technique, he defeats the heroes. But then his tail's removed and SS3 Gokuu finishes him off with the Dragon Fist.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Kaboom » Tue May 08, 2012 11:20 pm

Here we go, everyone! After finally forcing my way through Movies 7 and 8 and then healing by watching Movie 9, I'm back with part 3 of the only movies power levels list you'll ever need, or your money back!
MULTIPLIERS
Super Saiyan - x50
Super Saiyan Grade 2 - x75
Super Saiyan Grade 3 - x125
"Legendary" Super Saiyan - x150
Super Saiyan 2 - x100
Super Saiyan 3 - x400


"PART THREE: MUSCLES ON MY MUSCLES ON MY EYEBALLS"
MOVIE 7
"DOMO ARIGATO, MISTER ROBOTO"
"Why was Trunks in line?"
  • Cost of property damages from Android attack - 5,000,000,000 Zeni
    Cost of Goku’s fancy suit, worn later in Movie 8 - 25,000 Zeni
    Cost of Goku’s dinner - 500,000 Zeni

    Trunks - 4,000,000
    • Super Saiyan - 200,000,000
    Vegeta - 5,300,000
    • Super Saiyan - 275,000,000
    Son Goku - 5,000,000
    • Super Saiyan - 250,000,000
      • Remaining Sperm Count - 0
        • "Mmmm, that's some good genki right there." - 2,500,000,000
    • (The two great and one pretty-okay-I-guess Super Saiyans are plucked straight out from the Androids arc before they used the Room of Spirit and Time. When Goku absorbed the Spirit Bomb, he was so much stronger than Super 13 that the Android started freakin' MELTING from the power Goku was radiating.)
    Piccolo - 400,000,000
    • (Given that we see 17 and 18 in the movie's prologue, but they're nowhere to be seen for the bulk of the film sometime later, let's assume that Piccolo is awesome and beat them. Unfortunately, he shows up just in time for the formation of Super 13, who’s too strong even for him.)
    Kuririn - 125,000
    Gohan - 4,000,000
    • (Every team needs its cheerleaders.)
    Android 15 - 7,000,000
    • Fuel Cells Liquor-charged - 140,000,000
    Android 14 - 8,000,000
    • White n' Sturdy - 160,000,000
    Android 13 - 9,000,000
    • Gettin’Er Done - 180,000,000
      • Super - 400,000,000
        • Duper - 500,000,000
    • (The Androids having varying power levels is mostly a joke about how Toei likes to drag things out with the heroes in their base forms before they transform. Ultimately, Super 13, as the movies equivalent of Imperfect Cell or Android 16, seems to be the only one not weaker than the Super Saiyans or Piccolo. One of the guidebooks says that #16 was the strongest of Gero's [non-Cell] creations, but we'll let Super 13 here be equal on the technicality that he needed the other two Androids to power up, just like Cell did with absorption.)
    Poseidon the Magical Wishing Fish - 777,777,777
MOVIE 8
"SUPER SMASH BROLY'S BRAWL"
"MY MUSCLES ARE MAXIMUM"
  • Kuririn - 150,000
    • Singing Skills - #1 in all of whatever the hell "Japan" is
    Muten Roshi - 140
    • Drunk - 180
      • Super Saiyan - 7000
        • As Arale - 9001
    Oolong - 3
    • (Yyyyyyyep.)
    Baby Broly - 10,000
    Baby Goku - 2
    Baby-Vegeta - 64,000,000,000
    • (GTR spoilers ahoy!)
    Vegeta - 16,000,000
    • Super Saiyan - 800,000,000
      • Grade 2 - 1,200,000,000
    Trunks - 15,000,000
    • Super Saiyan - 750,000,000
      • Grade 2 - 1,125,000,000
    Piccolo - 1,300,000,000
    • (Vegeta and Trunks are as they were after their first session in the Room of Spirit and Time, since some key points of this movie's action so closely mimics Cell's debut performance in his perfect form against them. Furthermore, the art in the movie as well as its concept art heavily suggests they're still using SSj Grade 2, as opposed to abandoning it for good ol' regular balanced Super Saiyan by the time of the Cell Games.

      As for Piccolo, he seemed to be no more or less well off than the Super Saiyans, as opposed to lagging kind of far behind them like at the Cell Games. Let's hypothesize that, despite the threat of Cell no longer looming, he took his turn in the Room of Spirit and Time anyway after Goku and Gohan emerged. So he still took his first turn in the room, but nobody ever went in for seconds after him. That way I can just lazily place him at the same level I give him for the Cell Games to justify his halfway-admirable performance in the film.)
    Son Gohan - 26,000,000
    • Super Saiyan - 1,300,000,000
    Son Goku - 30,000,000
    • Super Saiyan - 1,500,000,000
      • The Power of FRIENDSHIP - 5,000,000,000
    • (I typically go with the 'Mid-RoSaT' idea for the placement of Goku and Gohan's power; the scenario assumes that 'Super Vegeta' destroyed Cell, the Cell Games never happened, and Goku and Gohan left the Room of Spirit and Time somewhat early. This is mainly to make some level of sense out of not only Goku seeming stronger than Gohan in this film, but also both Broly AND Gohan getting stronger by Movie 10, despite Gohan getting weaker between the Cell and Majin Boo arcs. Try not to think too hard about it.)
    Paragus - 10,000
    • (I figure Paragus has managed to become abnormally strong for the average Saiyan, poetically almost like Bardock, just by virtue of surviving and healing after Broly's rampages over the years. We did see a younger Broly attack him at least once in a flashback.)
    Broly - 30,000,000
    • Restricted - 7000
      • Super Saiyan - 1,500,000,000
        • Super Saiyan Grade 4 - 4,500,000,000
    • (Broly's power is restrained by the remote control device to a level lower than Paragus... until it stops working. Then, even just at Super Saiyan 1, Broly is already a major threat, rivaling Goku and straight-up tanking a kick from Super Saiyan Vegeta. His "Legendary" Super Saiyan form is just plain overkill after that, only beaten by everyone pooling their power together into Goku. His SSj power is a nod to that V-Jump or whatever article about him being in Budokai 3 or something, and his full LSSj power is the same level that I give for full-power Perfect Cell.)
    Time over which Broly wrecked the South Galaxy - Approximately 10 years
    According to fanboys - Approximately 10 seconds
MOVIE 9
"BOJACK IN THE BOX"
"Space chicks are hot!"
  • Son Gohan - 70,000,000
    • Super Saiyan - 3,500,000,000
      • Super Saiyan 2- 7,000,000,000
    Vegeta - 36,000,000
    • Super Saiyan - 1,800,000,000
    Trunks - 36,000,000
    • Super Saiyan - 1,800,000,000
    Piccolo - 1,250,000,000

    Yamcha - 40,000
    Tenshinhan - 75,000
    • Shirtless - 25,000,000
    Kuririn - 125,000

    [list](Aside from Trunks, who has likely spent more time back in the future by now than everyone else has in the past-present [so I figured I'd throw him a bone for his last appearance in the timeline], the heroes are all just as powerful as they were at the Cell Games, given that only a few months have passed, and even Vegeta hasn't been doing anything since he lost his motivation after Goku's death.)
Mr. Satan - 7
Doskoi - 6
Android 14 - 160,000,000
  • Recreated as a human - 5
Udo - 6
  • After days out at sea, miles away - 0
  • (Hello, handful of other tournament contestants with names.)
Gokua - 900,000,000
  • Buffed Up - 1,200,000,000
    • After back-alley appendectomy - 0
Bido - 800,000,000
  • Cell Junior'd - 0
Bujin - 850,000,000
  • Also Cell Junior'd - 0
Zangya - 900,000,000
  • With bass guitar - 1,200,000,000
    With nothing BUT bass guitar - 1,500,000,000
    Unexpectedly taking it from behind - 0
Bojack - 2,500,000,000
  • Buffed Up - 4,500,000,000
    • Wishing he had an exoskeleton like Cell - 2,000,000,000
      Wishing he could regenerate from a cell like... Cell - 0
  • (Gokua's a bit of an oddity, being the only one who transformed aside from Bojack himself. For both of them I treat the "transformation" as a power-up similar to Super Saiyan Grade 2, seeing as it's described in a similar manner in the guidebooks ["heightening their Ki to enlarge their muscles"], and gave it roughly the same comparative power boost.

    The others seemed to rely on ganging up on their opponents more than anything else. Since they can also use Bujin's energy-nets to actually lower their captive's power in addition to restraining them, it was a pretty effective strategy, and perhaps simply preferable for them over transforming unless they were fighting one-on-one. Bojack himself is a straight-up beast, on-par with Perfect Cell's full power, but beaten just as easily by SSj2 Gohan.)
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Saiga » Tue May 08, 2012 11:29 pm

You made a slight goof... movie 7 Trunks has his base at 4,600,000 when (I presume from his Super Saiyan BP) it should be 3,600,000.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Kaboom » Tue May 08, 2012 11:31 pm

Saiga wrote:You made a slight goof... movie 7 Trunks has his base at 4,600,000 when (I presume from his Super Saiyan BP) it should be 3,600,000.
Yes, indeedy. Thanks. Fixed.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Mon May 14, 2012 3:02 pm

Recently watched the OVA and JSAT special again, so I thought I'd do some battle powers for them. Enjoy.

DBZ Side Story: Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans

Son Gokuu: 13,000,000
Super Saiyan: 650,000,000

Son Gohan: 10,400,000
Super Saiyan: 520,000,000

Vegeta: 8,000,000
Super Saiyan: 400,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade II: 600,000,000

Trunks: 7,800,000
Super Saiyan: 390,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade II: 580,000,000

Piccolo: 550,000,000
The BPs are lifted from the first Broli movie, since it seems to be set in the same kind of alternate universe (Cell killed by Vegeta/Trunks, Gokuu and Gohan left RoSaT early) and sometime after the fight with Broli (as Gokuu directly mentions him). Once again, due to Toei's lighting inconsistency and the overall shitty production value of this OVA, it's hard to tell exactly whether or not Vegeta and/or Trunks are using regular SS or SSG2 here, so I shrugged and put both down.

Ghost Warriors: 450,000,000
Hatchi-Hyack: 1,600,000,000
The Ghost Warriors were considerably stronger than before, as they weren't immediately destroyed by the much stronger heroes, who mainly had trouble with them because of their continuous regeneration, until they realized how to defeat who they now knew were Ghost Warriors. Gokuu stated that Hatchi-Hyack may've even been stronger than Broli.

DB JSAT Special: Yo! Son Gokuu and His Friends Return!!

Son Gokuu: 53,000,000
Super Saiyan: 2,650,000,000

Vegeta: 50,000,000
Super Saiyan: 2,500,000,000
It's been two years since Boo's death, so they must've been training hard, but not made any great jumps in power because it's the same routine on Earth.

Son Goten: 7,000,000
Trunks: 7,500,000
Same for the kids, although their "training" is more playfighting than anything, which makes the young warriors stronger anyway.

Gotenks: 600,000,000
Super Saiyan: 9,000,000,000
Upscaled Gotenks along with the kids.

Tarble: 1,500
I think that when Vegeta said Tarble was sent off to a distant planet because he "didn't know how to fight", that's synonymous for having an unusually low battle power, especially for a super-elite. So I made him equal with Raditz, who represented the average low-level Saiyan.

Piccolo: 1,000,000,000
Kuririn: 75,000
Yamcha: 45,000
Piccolo's been training as usual, so now he's about as strong as Kaioushin before he merged with Kibito. Kuririn and Yamcha, who've long since retired, remain at their Cell arc BPs.

Abo: 4,000,000
Kado: 4,000,000
Aka: 400,000,000
"About as strong as Freeza", according to Tarble, who presumably would've only known about Freeza's first form. But, despite being outclassed, they still managed to somewhat keep up with the kids. Once they merged, they pummelled them, but then Gotenks turned the tables and, after the Super Wahaha no Ha, Super Saiyan Gokuu defeated him by landing a well-placed punch to his wide-open gut.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon May 14, 2012 3:23 pm

Is there a reason you listed the JSAT numbers twice...with some differences in name spellings? lol
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Mon May 14, 2012 4:28 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Is there a reason you listed the JSAT numbers twice...with some differences in name spellings? lol
Awp, accident there. I'll edit it out. Cheers. :)
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Fox666 » Wed May 16, 2012 6:52 am

Arrival of Trunks

- Trunks: 170,000,000
- Goku: 190,000,000

- Mecha Freeza: 140,000,000
- King Cold: 110,000,000

Androids

- Goku: 210,000,000
--- affected by disease: 80,000,000
- Vegeta: 230,000,000
- Piccolo: 150,000,000
- Trunks: 170,000,000

- No.19: 70,000,000
--- with Goku's energy: 110,000,000
- No.20: 80,000,000
--- with Piccolo's energy: 90,000,000
- No.18: 270,000,000
- No.17: 290,000,000
- No.16: 440,000,000

Cell

- Piccolo: 290,000,000
- Vegeta: 800,000,000
--- Grade II: 1,200,000,000
- Trunks: 700,000,000
--- Grade II: 1,050,000,000
--- Grade III: 2,100,000,000
- Goku (50%): 1,700,000,000

- Cell: 240,000,000
--- after absorbing humans: 440,000,000
--- Semi-perfect form: 700,000,000
----- Full power: 900,000,000
--- Perfect form: 1,500,000,000

Cell Games

- Goku: 3,400,000,000
- Gohan: 3,900,000,000
--- Super Saiyan 2: 7,800,000,000
- Vegeta: 2,800,000,000
- Trunks: 2,700,000,000
- Piccolo: 2,500,000,000

- Cell: 3,700,000,000
--- Full power: 4,100,000,000
--- Bulked-up form: 8,200,000,000
--- revived: 7,800,000,000
- Cell Jr.: 2,800,000,000

History of Trunks

- Gohan (regular form): 3,200,000
--- Super Saiyan: 160,000,000
- Trunks (regular form): 30,000
--- Super Saiyan: 1,800,000

- No.17: 260,000,000
- No.18: 250,000,000

Trunks returns to his own time

- Trunks: 3,100,000,000

- No.17: 260,000,000
- No.18: 250,000,000
- Cell: 440,000,000

Majin Boo

- Gohan: 3,500,000,000
--- Super Saiyan 2: 7,000,000,000
- Vegeta: 3,600,000,000
--- Possessed by Babidi: 4,000,000,000
- Goku: 4,000,000,000
--- Super Saiyan 2: 8,000,000,000
--- Super Saiyan 3: 32,000,000,000
- Trunks: 3,300,000,000
- Goten: 3,200,000,000
- Piccolo: 2,500,000,000
- Kaioshin: 3,000,000,000
- Kibito: 70,000,000

- Pui-pui: 30,000,000
- Yakon: 100,000,000
- Darbra: 3,800,000,000
- Majin Boo: 20,000,000,000

Evil Majin Boo

- Trunks: 3,300,000,000
--- after training: 3,500,000,000
- Goten: 3,200,000,000
--- after training: 3,400,000,000
- Gotenks (regular form): 1,900,000,000
--- Super Saiyan: 95,000,000,000
--- after training (regular form): 2,100,000,000
----- Super Saiyan: 105,000,000,000
----- Super Saiyan 3: 420,000,000,000
- Son Gohan (after training): 3,900,000,000
--- Mighties warrior: 470,000,000,000
- Kaioshin (merged with Kibito): 5,000,000,000
- Goku: 4,000,000,000
--- Super Saiyan 3: 32,000,000,000
- Vegeta: 3,600,000,000
- Vegetto: 2,200,000,000,000

- Majin Boo (Innocent): 20,000,000,000
--- Good: 8,000,000,000
--- Pure Evil: 12,000,000,000
--- Evil: 410,000,000,000
----- Gotenks-absorbed: 830,000,000,000
----- Gohan-absorbed: 880,000,000,000

Pure Majin Boo

- Goku (Super Saiyan 3): 32,000,000,000
- Vegeta (Super Saiyan 2): 7,200,000,000
- Majin Boo (Good): 8,000,000,000

- Majin Boo (Pure): 30,000,000,000

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by CatouttaHell » Sat May 19, 2012 10:47 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Son Goten: 7,000,000
Trunks: 7,500,000,000
Typo?
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Sun May 20, 2012 11:53 pm

Fox666 wrote: - Vegetto: 2,200,000,000,000
Bwa ha, Vegetto surpasses the ultimate indeed!
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Saiga » Mon May 21, 2012 12:06 am

I'm trying to redo my power levels at the moment, and I'm wondering what to do about fusion. Do you guys try to use a consistent formula or just say "it's magic, fuck it" and just base give them a power level as if they were a separate character?
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Kaboom » Mon May 21, 2012 12:45 am

Saiga wrote:I'm trying to redo my power levels at the moment, and I'm wondering what to do about fusion. Do you guys try to use a consistent formula or just say "it's magic, fuck it" and just base give them a power level as if they were a separate character?
I used to try to do something like the former, but have eventually come to find it a big unnecessary headache.

I sincerely doubt, after all, that even the same technique would always yield the exact same proportionate result to the two fusing individuals. Potara Fusion, for one, is apparently just an extreme wild card that can have profoundly different effects based just on who's using it. But even the Fusion Dance's outcome could be modified ever so slightly by certain elements. Like, if one of the Fusees is just a millisecond ahead of or behind the other in the dance, or if one is slightly taller than the other, or if they have different-colored hair, or who knows what else.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Saiga » Mon May 21, 2012 12:49 am

Kaboom wrote:
Saiga wrote:I'm trying to redo my power levels at the moment, and I'm wondering what to do about fusion. Do you guys try to use a consistent formula or just say "it's magic, fuck it" and just base give them a power level as if they were a separate character?
I used to try to do something like the former, but have eventually come to find it a big unnecessary headache.

I sincerely doubt, after all, that even the same technique would always yield the exact same proportionate result to the two fusing individuals. Potara Fusion, for one, is apparently just an extreme wild card that can have profoundly different effects based just on who's using it. But even the Fusion Dance's outcome could be modified ever so slightly by certain elements. Like, if one of the Fusees is just a millisecond ahead of or behind the other in the dance, or if one is slightly taller than the other, or if they have different-colored hair, or who knows what else.
Yeah, I think I'll just go with that.

Still trying to figure out how to work the Daizenshuu comment about Gotenks and Vegeta into it. :?
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Mon May 21, 2012 4:33 pm

CatouttaHell wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Son Goten: 7,000,000
Trunks: 7,500,000,000
Typo?
Yeah, I'll go back and edit that now. Thanks for the heads-up. :)
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