I really think it is. If Dragon Ball isn't a huge cash cow for Funimation, they won't even think about hardcore or niche releases. Even if it wasn't in our best interest, I think bombarding Amazon with negative reviews when we're still unsure of what this is actually going to be like is pretty out of order.KingofWisdom wrote:I don't know what's worse, that this might be a real release, or that it might be in our best interests to not talk shit about it for it to make FUNimation money.
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Yeah, it doesn't actually look new. It's like the show got a bad facelift.
Unless the trailer misrepresented the product, we do know what we're in for. As said, all a bad encode of the trailer causes is macroblocking and visual artifacts. It will not alter the saturation, color balance, DVNR or line work.Fizzer wrote:I think bombarding Amazon with negative reviews when we're still unsure of what this is actually going to be like is pretty out of order.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
The only issue now is that they removed the trailer. Once a trailer goes up and stays up, any action taken is legit, but for all we know they could have accidentally uploaded the wrong version or decided to tone down their filters out something.KingofWisdom wrote:Yeah, it doesn't actually look new. It's like the show got a bad facelift.
Unless the trailer misrepresented the product, we do know what we're in for. As said, all a bad encode of the trailer causes is macroblocking and visual artifacts. It will not alter the saturation, color balance, DVNR or line work.Fizzer wrote:I think bombarding Amazon with negative reviews when we're still unsure of what this is actually going to be like is pretty out of order.
Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
With Christopher Sabat now being interested in obtaining the original broadcast audio and saying that he'll make sure Funimation uses it we may see a continuation of the level sets sometime in the future. This may be just what Funimation needed to increase the sales of the level sets and continue their remaster. Including the original broadcast audio would give fans who previously weren't willing to double dip with the level sets after already owning the dragon boxes a reason to upgrade. It seems like an interesting development can't wait to see how it pans out.
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My dream would be a Level-type set, with the level remastering (I found it to be quite good looking), but with the original broadcast audio of the Funimation version. Obviously they had to revoice and rescore the first few sagas because they never produced them to begin with, but I don't like the changes made to the rest of the show.
I want a very simple product. The original Japanese broadcast audio (maybe put into Stereo so it's easier on the ears), and the Original American broadcast audio. I have never and will never watch the bastardized hybrid version with English voice and Japanese music. Though I might watch a Japanese voice with American music just for kicks. Take those two audio tracks and put them on a nice, clean scan of the original animation, and sell it to me at literally any price.
I want a very simple product. The original Japanese broadcast audio (maybe put into Stereo so it's easier on the ears), and the Original American broadcast audio. I have never and will never watch the bastardized hybrid version with English voice and Japanese music. Though I might watch a Japanese voice with American music just for kicks. Take those two audio tracks and put them on a nice, clean scan of the original animation, and sell it to me at literally any price.
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I doubt we'll see a rerelease of FUNimation's broadcast dub (beyond the bone they threw us with the Rock the Dragon set). You're better off hunting down singles. I remember seeing some con video where Sabat was asking if his Piccolo speech following the merger with Nail ("I CAN DO THIS! UGH!") had been redubbed (which it hadn't). He seemed embarrassed by it, so he probably wasn't even pleased with the final voice track that went onto the orange bricks. Hence him referring to Kai as their second chance.
"Those transformations insane,
They wanna turn up hours late and steal the show from the pros who had to die for the name." - Yamcha (DBWTF: Z-Rap 3)
"Over saturation is easy. Just drag the slider to the right and there you are: instant interest. And certainly, the majority of the public likes saturated color images. In fact, if you want to quickly create a popular image, simply over saturate the colors and increase the contrast. While you may not achieve a sophisticated image, you will achieve an image that will please a less demanding audience." - Alain Briot
They wanna turn up hours late and steal the show from the pros who had to die for the name." - Yamcha (DBWTF: Z-Rap 3)
"Over saturation is easy. Just drag the slider to the right and there you are: instant interest. And certainly, the majority of the public likes saturated color images. In fact, if you want to quickly create a popular image, simply over saturate the colors and increase the contrast. While you may not achieve a sophisticated image, you will achieve an image that will please a less demanding audience." - Alain Briot
Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
Unless you have access to the original voice-only master tapes (Which are long gone), that is pretty much a near-impossible thing to do.Roland_ELoG wrote:Though I might watch a Japanese voice with American music just for kicks. Take those two audio tracks and put them on a nice, clean scan of the original animation, and sell it to me at literally any price.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
I assume you mean Japanese?qjz123 wrote:With Christopher Sabat now being interested in obtaining the original broadcast audio and saying that he'll make sure Funimation uses it we may see a continuation of the level sets sometime in the future.
And if so, wow, what did I miss?
Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... &start=400 the 6th post downfunrush wrote:I assume you mean Japanese?qjz123 wrote:With Christopher Sabat now being interested in obtaining the original broadcast audio and saying that he'll make sure Funimation uses it we may see a continuation of the level sets sometime in the future.
And if so, wow, what did I miss?
Kendamu wrote:This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
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And look what one determined person is able to achieve. It's a shame that the most of the "hardcore fanbase"(?) is only crying in this topic...qjz123 wrote: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... &start=400 the 6th post down
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Yes, they did. The '96-'98 dub of the first two seasons with the Ocean cast was just as much FUNimation's production as anything that came afterwards.Roland_ELoG wrote:Obviously they had to revoice and rescore the first few sagas because they never produced them to begin with
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About trailer's compression: DVNRed and heavily compressed Level sets (1/25 of original blu-ray bitrate):
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http://imageshack.us/a/img692/6682/n3re.png
I don't see any point in defending the new release. Garbage is garbage and nothing will change that.
Watch and listen closely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moAy02J2 ... page#t=140
There is only need to clean it a little bit and that's all! Why they are f*** with Steve's transfer? Why my free and simple software is able to do it way better that a "team of super-geniuses"?
This is an unexplainable nonsense.
http://imageshack.us/a/img547/3074/x2kn.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/6682/n3re.png
I don't see any point in defending the new release. Garbage is garbage and nothing will change that.
Watch and listen closely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moAy02J2 ... page#t=140
There is only need to clean it a little bit and that's all! Why they are f*** with Steve's transfer? Why my free and simple software is able to do it way better that a "team of super-geniuses"?
This is an unexplainable nonsense.
Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
Funimation removed their trailer and has yet to announce a release date for these blu rays, now that Christopher Sabat is interested in obtaining and using the original jappenese broadcast audio maybe the 16:9 season blu rays will be cancelled in favor of more level sets. A person can dream can't he?Kojiro Sasaki wrote:About trailer's compression: DVNRed and heavily compressed Level sets (1/25 of original blu-ray bitrate):
http://imageshack.us/a/img547/3074/x2kn.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/6682/n3re.png
I don't see any point in defending the new release. Garbage is garbage and nothing will change that.
Watch and listen closely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moAy02J2 ... page#t=140
There is only need to clean it a little bit and that's all! Why they are f*** with Steve's transfer? Why my free and simple software is able to do it way better that a "team of super-geniuses"?
This is an unexplainable nonsense.
Kendamu wrote:This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
I think we found the closest Disney has ever gotten to Funimations remaster quality! LOL

On topic note:
I'm not sure taking to Mr. Sabat had anything to do with the trailer being pulled because he said (which I'd assume after the fact by when it was posted) after the trailer was pulled. But, the audio could affect a future release (in a good way!)

On topic note:
I'm not sure taking to Mr. Sabat had anything to do with the trailer being pulled because he said (which I'd assume after the fact by when it was posted) after the trailer was pulled. But, the audio could affect a future release (in a good way!)
Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
The trailer being pulled probably had nothing to do with Christopher Sabat but I'm hoping since he said he wants the recordings of the original Japanese broadcast audio and that he said he will make sure Funimation uses it and that he can force this through means that a future re release of the level sets is going to happen.eledoremassis02 wrote: On topic note:
I'm not sure taking to Mr. Sabat had anything to do with the trailer being pulled because he said (which I'd assume after the fact by when it was posted) after the trailer was pulled. But, the audio could affect a future release (in a good way!)
Kendamu wrote:This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
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I really hope so too. Even if that means the release gets delayed to prep the other episodes/rip and clean audio. However, the deal breaker might be keeping it in 16x9. This way a lot of the casual fans get their "widescreen experience" and FUNimation can be like "Look we got broadcast audio that even TOEI does not have. You know you wanna buy it" lolqjz123 wrote: The trailer being pulled probably had nothing to do with Christopher Sabat but I'm hoping since he said he wants the recordings of the original Japanese broadcast audio and that he said he will make sure Funimation uses it and that he can force this through means that a future re release of the level sets is going to happen.
In all seriousness, if it stays 16x9 and has broadcast audio, I'd get it.
Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
I would too but I'd prefer a 4:3 release. The level sets released in 4:3 on blu ray with the original Japanese broadcast audio sounds like a perfect release.eledoremassis02 wrote: I really hope so too. Even if that means the release gets delayed to prep the other episodes/rip and clean audio. However, the deal breaker might be keeping it in 16x9. This way a lot of the casual fans get their "widescreen experience" and FUNimation can be like "Look we got broadcast audio that even TOEI does not have. You know you wanna buy it" lol
In all seriousness, if it stays 16x9 and has broadcast audio, I'd get it.
Kendamu wrote:This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
There's zero chance of Kei's audio ending up on this Blu-Ray.
The likely/hopeful series of events will be that the shitty Blu-Rays release and perhaps a year or so later, we'll get a new range of Blu-Rays that are exactly what we want but they'll shove the whole 'THE ORIGINAL AUDIO AS YOU'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE! REMASTERED FOR THE MODERN ERA' on the box and hope that that will be cause the 'I have the DBox, I don't want anything else'-fans to finally buy something else.
The likely/hopeful series of events will be that the shitty Blu-Rays release and perhaps a year or so later, we'll get a new range of Blu-Rays that are exactly what we want but they'll shove the whole 'THE ORIGINAL AUDIO AS YOU'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE! REMASTERED FOR THE MODERN ERA' on the box and hope that that will be cause the 'I have the DBox, I don't want anything else'-fans to finally buy something else.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10
I know that there's no chance of Kei's audio ending up on this blu ray release I was saying that I hope this release gets cancelled in favor of re releasing the level sets with the original broadcast audio sometime next year. Funimation hasn't even officially announced a release date for these blu rays so canceling them could be possible regardless of how unlikely it may be.AjayLikesGaming wrote:There's zero chance of Kei's audio ending up on this Blu-Ray.
The likely/hopeful series of events will be that the shitty Blu-Rays release and perhaps a year or so later, we'll get a new range of Blu-Rays that are exactly what we want but they'll shove the whole 'THE ORIGINAL AUDIO AS YOU'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE! REMASTERED FOR THE MODERN ERA' on the box and hope that that will be cause the 'I have the DBox, I don't want anything else'-fans to finally buy something else.
Kendamu wrote:This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
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That is true. At the very least I'll wait till/when/if they use the audio. When they do I'll sell all my Dboxes and singles once the 1st Blu Ray comes outAjayLikesGaming wrote:There's zero chance of Kei's audio ending up on this Blu-Ray.
The likely/hopeful series of events will be that the shitty Blu-Rays release and perhaps a year or so later, we'll get a new range of Blu-Rays that are exactly what we want but they'll shove the whole 'THE ORIGINAL AUDIO AS YOU'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE! REMASTERED FOR THE MODERN ERA' on the box and hope that that will be cause the 'I have the DBox, I don't want anything else'-fans to finally buy something else.




