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by LowRyder2005 » Wed May 03, 2017 9:20 am
I'd still like to know if people are basing this mainly on Gohan attacking Tagoma, the enemies referring to Gohan as the strongest guy of the team or some other tidbit of information. While it is undeniable that a non 100% Tagoma took a direct hit from Piccolo without flinching and Tagoma-Ginyu apparently bothered - barely giving a thought all the same, nevertheless - to parry Gohan's punches, we still don't know if base Gohan could have actually hurt Tagoma-Ginyu (we just know he didn't when he tried to, as a matter of fact).
Curiously enough, there's also the fact that were two different people involved in this fight so the usual rationale "Tagoma did this before, it seems strange he would do that afterwards" doesn't seem to be that easily appliable. Furthermore, if we wanted to indulge into some additional mental gymnastics, chances are that some characters may have been more exhausted than others. Piccolo had his weights on and appeared pretty tired, and he may have been simply much more tired than Gohan at that point.
At this point, I personally don't feel like the notion regarding base Gohan as more powerful than Piccolo is particularly stronger than the other possibilities, and I think it has been thoroughly weakened in its very foundations by the the latest episode.
What lead people to believe something like that was the theory that Gohan could've been Ultimate combined with their interpretation of Beerus' words on the base Saiyans. Hence, Gohan had to be above Piccolo no ifs and buts. However, we now know with a compelling degree of assuredness that Gohan could not easily turn Ultimate; most likely, then, it was TOEI having the base Saiyan-tier character ducking it out with the Super Saiyan-ish tier foe; in short, your very standard TOEI script, which Super has presented to us many, many times by now.
If you follow this idea and you don't think that Gohan was channeling part of his Ultimate power (which still could be; the dialogue does state that he's trying to go Ultimate) you'd most likely need to hypothesize that Piccolo became more something like 50, 75 or 100 times stronger in a few weeks and - at least from an in-universe point of view - considering, well, everything that was indirectly established from the post-Cell Game to today it sounds somewhat hard to believe. Compared to that, people somehow sensing or referring to Gohan's real power and not his simple base form sounds much easier to believe and reconcile with the current feats, at least for me, also not being - technically - something unprecedented altogether.
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LowRyder2005 on Wed May 03, 2017 9:53 am, edited 2 times in total.