"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Birusu16]

I think this is incredibly predictable with the way this is going. Vegeta will win against Cabba and finally lose to Hit. Hit will also defeat Goku. He may even defeat Monaka, but as of right now that's the only fight I'm unsure about. Hit or Monaka could win that fight or the tournament could be interrupted before that fight takes place.

[Saiga]

I don't see much reason for Goku to lose to Hit, it just wouldn't serve much of a point. If Vegeta fights Hit and loses, that already establishes Hit is that strong, why bring Goku back into the tournament for him to do nothing but lose to Hit, which would be expected after Vegeta lost? You could have just left him out and lost nothing at all.

I think if Goku's going to lose to Hit, than Vegeta won't fight him. Maybe he steps down immediately after his match with Cabba.

But mostly I think Goku will beat Hit and Monaka will be revealed not to be what he was hyped up to be, since Beerus is trying to avoid him being involved in any fights and stuff. Then we'd have 3 Vegeta wins, and 2 Goku wins with Goku winning the most important match to balance it out.

[Kuririn Fan]

Monaka is crazy strong, at least that is what manga said. Anime is just mysterious about it.

[Birusu16]

I honestly don't get the Monaka is weak theories. It doesn't make any sense. Why would Beerus bring a weak fighter (and have him be his teams final fighter) to a tournament he's absolutely desperate to win?

[fadeddreams5]

Maybe Beerus only assumed Monaka was strong the last time they met because of strange coincidences that led him to believe the latter was one-upping him somehow. I mean, just look at the scene where Monaka "dodges" the glass after Vegeta's final flash. Goku gets the impression Monaka just stood there, unphased, because he knew he wouldn't get harmed. But, in reality, he probably didn't see any of that glass coming, yet maintained his usual poker face.

[sintzu]

I think if Goku's going to lose to Hit, than Vegeta won't fight him. Maybe he steps down immediately after his match with Cabba.

The only way I can see Vegeta not fighting him is if he gets disqualified cause there's no way he'll step down if he doesn't have to.

[namekiansaiyan]

I don't see much reason for Goku to lose to Hit, it just wouldn't serve much of a point. If Vegeta fights Hit and loses, that already establishes Hit is that strong, why bring Goku back into the tournament for him to do nothing but lose to Hit, which would be expected after Vegeta lost? You could have just left him out and lost nothing at all.

I think if Goku's going to lose to Hit, than Vegeta won't fight him. Maybe he steps down immediately after his match with Cabba.

But mostly I think Goku will beat Hit and Monaka will be revealed not to be what he was hyped up to be, since Beerus is trying to avoid him being involved in any fights and stuff. Then we'd have 3 Vegeta wins, and 2 Goku wins with Goku winning the most important match to balance it out.

Remember this is the Goku amd Vegeta show and that is why Goku is back in. Piccolo was used so that Goku's fights are not in one go and are therefore split into two and so he fights after Vegeta. Both Vegeta and Goku will lose to Hit and if Monaka is really as strong as Beerus says then the whole point of the Monaka and Hit fight is to show Goku and Vegeta that they need to train more as Hit and Monaka are in a different league to them. Hit will also beat Monaka.

[ArchedThunder]

Not necessarily. I still see the possibility of the tournament being interrupted in modern Dragon Ball fashion. Running on both the assumption that Hit will be the final battle and Monaka is as uncontrollable as Whis claims he is in the Super manga, there might be an event where our cast has to deal with both of them causing havoc. Hopefully in this scenario we see the return of team battles.

For awhile I thought the tournament would get interrupted for sure, but now I'm getting the feeling that Hit won't actually be a villain and this tournament will end normally with Universe 6 winning as a set up for future arcs taking place in Universe 6. It'd be cool to see some new main cast members, Cabba would absolutely join and if Hit isn't evil he could be the new "Quiet badass".
We should know if just a few weeks!

I have always thought the tournament would not get interupted and that Hit is a good guy who will help them when they go to universe 6 as I think universe 6 win. I also now think Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Jaco, Bulma and Cabba (who is Gohan's replacement) will be the main cast in the next arc when they go and find the last Super Dragonball if they do go looking for it.

I don't think Cabba is replacing Gohan, otherwise I don't think they would have had Gohan go back to training in the first place. I also honestly don't see Piccolo being part of the main cast after this arc, he'll probably be a side character like Kuririn.

[sintzu]

I don't think Cabba is replacing Gohan, otherwise I don't think they would have had Gohan go back to training in the first place.

Anything below Whis' training isn't training especially that kids game him and Piccolo were playing.

[namekiansaiyan]

I have always thought the tournament would not get interupted and that Hit is a good guy who will help them when they go to universe 6 as I think universe 6 win. I also now think Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Jaco, Bulma and Cabba (who is Gohan's replacement) will be the main cast in the next arc when they go and find the last Super Dragonball if they do go looking for it.

I don't think Cabba is replacing Gohan, otherwise I don't think they would have had Gohan go back to training in the first place.

Even though he trained it was only to protect people but I think the next arc will not be set on earth so he won't be there. He won't go travelling with the rest because of his job and whoever travels will have Goku and Vegeta to protect them. Cabba is going to take them to his planet aswell as trying to find the last super dragon ball.

[dbgtFO]

I don't think Cabba is replacing Gohan, otherwise I don't think they would have had Gohan go back to training in the first place. I also honestly don't see Piccolo being part of the main cast after this arc, he'll probably be a side character like Kuririn.

I think Gohan and Piccolo training was just fanservice, that isn't supposed to amount to much and I do think Piccolo is going to join the team for the Universe 6 travels, while Gohan stays at home due to work. To me it does make sense Cabba is replacing Gohan, he even has the same hair as badass Gohan.

@Monaka speculation
Toriyama's comment on Monaka hints, that we may not see Monaka fight doing the tournament.

[Chuquita]

I don't see Cabba replacing Gohan either, but I would enjoy if he turns out to be the son of Sadla's Prince (thus making him a kind of counterpart to Trunks). He just feels so Future Trunks to me right now.

[alakazam^]

Maybe Beerus only assumed Monaka was strong the last time they met because of strange coincidences that led him to believe the latter was one-upping him somehow. I mean, just look at the scene where Monaka "dodges" the glass after Vegeta's final flash. Goku gets the impression Monaka just stood there, unphased, because he knew he wouldn't get harmed. But, in reality, he probably didn't see any of that glass coming, yet maintained his usual poker face.

Monaka has been unconscious since the Botamo fight, that's why he isn't reacting to anything. Thinking about it gets me everytime because they mostly ignore Monaka and any time they remember he exists he has the same expression and you realize that's because his brain has shut down since the beginning of the tournament

[Noah]

Goku vs Hit should be the final battle.

No, it shouldn't. A final tournament match without known characters/protagonists would be interesting and innovative.

[Zephyr]

Maybe he's actually some sort of doll that Beerus can control and channel his power through? It would allow him to act as a fighter without actually fighting himself.

I could see him trying something underhanded like that.

[kinisking]

Maybe he's actually some sort of doll that Beerus can control and channel his power through? It would allow him to act as a fighter without actually fighting himself.

I could see him trying something underhanded like that.

Yeah this is the theory I'm attaching to the most right now. They'res no way that Monaka in some form or way won't fight properly

[Skar]

They can continue even if Mr.Toriyama doesn't provide more content, they did it once with GT. Squeezing the brand till it dries. I honestly doubt Toei can demand anything from him, besides what he signed up for.
I don't know how long it will last, but I believe the hectic weekly schedule was a big part of why Dragon Ball ended before. Now Mr.Toriyama seems to have regained his motivation and joy to write more stories, with a more relaxed work load. Which bodes well for a possible long running series.

It's possible but I don't know if Toei would continue without Toriyama this time. The main selling point of the movies was that Toriyama was writing them and they were set in the same timeline as the manga. I don't know how much of the older staff still works at Toei but if it's made up mostly of younger, new generation then they may respect Toriyama's decision to end it. I wouldn't want them to continue it just because they can to be honest. Every franchise has to come to an end eventually so it's either they choose a good spot to end it or they continue until it becomes so bad that fans stop watching. If they have enthusiastic writers willing to come up with something original then I wouldn't mind. Unfortunately if they're trying to milk the series then they'll probably play it safe and rely more on fan service and recycle popular storylines rather than come up with anything new.

I honestly don't get the Monaka is weak theories. It doesn't make any sense. Why would Beerus bring a weak fighter (and have him be his teams final fighter) to a tournament he's absolutely desperate to win?

It might be that Beerus didn't have anyone else to choose. He could've decided to bring any guy he knew that they didn't and pretend they were strong to motivate Goku and Vegeta.

[FoolsGil]

I honestly don't get the Monaka is weak theories. It doesn't make any sense. Why would Beerus bring a weak fighter (and have him be his teams final fighter) to a tournament he's absolutely desperate to win?

It might be that Beerus didn't have anyone else to choose. He could've decided to bring any guy he knew that they didn't and pretend they were strong to motivate Goku and Vegeta.

Let's be honest, this tournament has not gone in a way we would have expected. Skar's prediction may actually be on the money, and I won't even bat an eye if that is the case.

[Bullza]

That'd be really disappointing if that was the case.

Between Buu not even competing, Piccolo losing to a weakened Frost and then to actually have Monaca be a weakling?

I don't really complain about Super being the Goku and Vegeta show but that would really be pushing it.

[Khin]

It might be that Beerus didn't have anyone else to choose. He could've decided to bring any guy he knew that they didn't and pretend they were strong to motivate Goku and Vegeta.

Why would he go that far ? Having Gohan in his spot would be way better if that's the case.Or he could just recruit Freeza.