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Saiga · Post by **Saiga** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:24 am

Because that's what near death means. Close to dying. If he can't die from it, he can't be near death...

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:47 am

Saiga wrote:Because that's what near death means. Close to dying. If he can't die from it, he can't be near death...

Zenkais are not a conscious force that can recognize that.

TheMightyOzaru · Post by **TheMightyOzaru** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:53 am

I always interpreted Zenkai's working like a super muscle. You break the Saiyan body down and when you heal it heals much stronger than it was before.

Saiga · Post by **Saiga** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:18 am

Rocketman wrote:
Saiga wrote:Because that's what near death means. Close to dying. If he can't die from it, he can't be near death...
Zenkais are not a conscious force that can recognize that.

Then why doesn't he get one when he gets the top half of his body blown off?

miguelnuva1 · Post by **miguelnuva1** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:22 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:
I guess you forgot the Majin Punisher. And why would Gogeta be one shotted?
I didn't forget it. I specially mentioned that SS3 Vegetto had one attack and five seconds to beat Buu, while Buu has half a dozen (off the top of my head) attacks that can kill Vegetto in one hit. Not to mention he can just teleport away for five seconds.

Gogeta would be one-shotted because he's nowhere near SS Vegetto, even as a Super Saiyan 3, according to the Daizenshuu, Buuhan's educated guesses, and Old Kai's statements.
Gogeta is a anime character and he beat Janemba who was near Buuhan according to TOEI. Gogeta and Vegito have never been stated 100% offically on where their power lies all we know is that Potara is stronger than the dance and most have Goku and Vegeta only twice as strong as Goten and Trunks so they put Gogeta 2x then Gotenks.

Vegito's Majin punished was used when he was in MSSJ and Bra used it as well so since SSJ2 Vegito and Hyper Buu are the same tire Vegito has the advantage.

Roughly twice as strong as Gotenks is probably where Gogeta is... meaning, weaker than Buuhan, to say nothing of this Buu. Janemba was never said to be close to Buuhan, he was just above Hirudegarn who is around Gohan (doesn't really have to be higher than that). But that's anime anyway; Salagir doesn't follow that and I don't blame him, because it's assuming that SS Gogeta is on par with Buutenks, which everyone knows is a load of crap.

We know that the dance is like addition while potara is like multiplication.

Vegetto has one attack that may give him the advantage against Zen Buu. Zen Buu has at least half a dozen right off the bat.

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Gogeta being only 2x Gotenks is not offical and isn't any more right then saying there is one level between Gogeta and Vegito. Also Goku and Vegeta could have gained more on their own then Vegito did.

TheMightyOzaru · Post by **TheMightyOzaru** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:46 am

Saiga wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Saiga wrote:Because that's what near death means. Close to dying. If he can't die from it, he can't be near death...
Zenkais are not a conscious force that can recognize that.
Then why doesn't he get one when he gets the top half of his body blown off?

Who's to say he didn't? Maybe Cell has to regenerate from his core to get one, who knows?

Draken · Post by **Draken** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:48 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote: Who's to say he didn't? Maybe Cell has to regenerate from his core to get one, who knows?

No power up was noted, and I don't think zenkais are more effective the closer to death you are.

TheMightyOzaru · Post by **TheMightyOzaru** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:50 am

Maybe Cell's cells recognize a near death situation as being brought down to his core.

Draken · Post by **Draken** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:51 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Maybe Cell's cells recognize a near death situation as being brought down to his core.

Or maybe bullshit plot

(not in-universe forum! so hah!)

Saiga · Post by **Saiga** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:53 am

Giving the way they're described I simply see an entity as only getting one when they're near death, not a fixed threshold of damage that would make an ordinary Saiyan near-death but not Cell.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:03 am

Saiga wrote:Because that's what near death means. Close to dying. If he can't die from it, he can't be near death...

How does "near death" automatically mean "there is a chance of death"? For all we know he can regenerate with 100% reliability after blowing himself up. Or he can just train; maybe he did, seeing as how he had tons of spare time and wanted to enter a tournament where he fought the strongest fighters of the multiverse. Then the Piccolo's cells would kick in and inexplicably make him a hundred times stronger.

Draken · Post by **Draken** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:09 am

Does Cell seriously seem like the training type to you even if we assume he has the capability and potential to get that strong? Maybe he's just so confident of his power after beating Gohan he's like fuck yea let's go I am the perfect warrior.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:12 am

Draken wrote:Does Cell seriously seem like the training type to you even if we assume he has the capability and potential to get that strong? Maybe he's just so confident of his power after beating Gohan he's like fuck yea let's go I am the perfect warrior.

He has Goku's, Piccolo's, and Vegeta's cells. They like to get stronger for the heck of it.

Again, I'm not saying Cell did train/absorb people/zenaki himself and get like 400 times stronger to match Ultimate Gohan, but I wouldn't call bullshit if he did, because it's possible and plausible.

Xeogran · Post by **Xeogran** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:27 am

I admit, i haven't really read all chapters but what's the reason for people praising DBM Yamcha so much? What universe he's from or what did he really do? Some even compare him to Vegetto level, wtf.

EDIT: Nevermind, he's an Android @_@

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:30 pm

The characters we seen in DBM are different then we saw in the manga. It won't bother me if Cell is around SSj3 level in DBM seeing that we know that he can make a Cell Jr around SSj2 level.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:32 pm

Nightstar1994 wrote:I admit, i haven't really read all chapters but what's the reason for people praising DBM Yamcha so much? What universe he's from or what did he really do? Some even compare him to Vegetto level, wtf.

EDIT: Nevermind, he's an Android @_@

Apparently he's their universe's Android 17. Which would make him completely irrelevant to guys who supposedly beat Dabura (I am seriously not looking forward to that), but whatever.

Wait, something I noticed... how are Cooler and Freeza dodging Buu's absorption attempt in this last panel, but Super Perfect Cell couldn't?

Kamiccolo9 · Post by **Kamiccolo9** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:01 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Nightstar1994 wrote:I admit, i haven't really read all chapters but what's the reason for people praising DBM Yamcha so much? What universe he's from or what did he really do? Some even compare him to Vegetto level, wtf.

EDIT: Nevermind, he's an Android @_@
Apparently he's their universe's Android 17. Which would make him completely irrelevant to guys who supposedly beat Dabura (I am seriously not looking forward to that), but whatever.

Wait, something I noticed... how are Cooler and Freeza dodging Buu's absorption attempt in this last panel, but Super Perfect Cell couldn't?

Cell is cool, but the brothers....they're Cooler

And with that unbelievably bad pun out of the way, maybe they saw the Buu goo coming out of the ground? Cooler can possibly sense ki, so maybe he felt something? Cell's just an arrogant idiot? I dunno.

goku1234 · Post by **goku1234** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:09 pm

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:11 pm

So they failed to dodge. No surprise there.

Next strip will contain Buuza.

Marco Polo · Post by **Marco Polo** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:21 pm

Oh no, he's going to get Bardock's prophetic power

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