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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Ajay » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:30 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote: When they do I'll sell all my Dboxes and singles once the 1st Blu Ray comes out :D
And then they'll cancel the release and you'll cry
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:35 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:
eledoremassis02 wrote: When they do I'll sell all my Dboxes and singles once the 1st Blu Ray comes out :D
And then they'll cancel the release and you'll cry
Perhaps..then I'd take the rest of the money that I had from selling them and just get all the singles again since the Dragon Boxes migh all be 1000+ at that time lol :D

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Post by penguintruth » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:39 pm

The Japanese will not, under any circumstances, allow some foreign company to have a release with the original broadcast audio before them.

You'd be swarming with brain parasites to think otherwise.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by eledoremassis02 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:47 pm

penguintruth wrote:The Japanese will not, under any circumstances, allow some foreign company to have a release with the original broadcast audio before them.

You'd be swarming with brain parasites to think otherwise.
Maybe, but same coulda been said with the level sets (espeshally since we are the same Blu Ray region as Japan). The only difference is that TOEI did not give FUNimation the broadcast audio.
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Post by Roland_ELoG » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:48 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
Roland_ELoG wrote:Obviously they had to revoice and rescore the first few sagas because they never produced them to begin with
Yes, they did. The '96-'98 dub of the first two seasons with the Ocean cast was just as much FUNimation's production as anything that came afterwards.
I was under the impression that they "produced" it in the sense that they paid for it and arranged the broadcast rights and such. I thought Ocean did their own directing and voice work/selection.

As for a US release before Japanese... I think the Funimation singles were released before any home media release of Dragon Ball Z in Japan.
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Post by qjz123 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:03 pm

penguintruth wrote:The Japanese will not, under any circumstances, allow some foreign company to have a release with the original broadcast audio before them.

You'd be swarming with brain parasites to think otherwise.
But Toei has been approached by multiple fans asking them to take their recording of the broadcast audio to create a higher quality Dragon ball z release and Toei was completely uninterested they see nothing wrong with the audio quality of the dragon boxes if anything Funimation releasing the series with the original broadcast audio would be taking the work out of Toei's hands.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:19 pm

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Roland_ELoG wrote:Obviously they had to revoice and rescore the first few sagas because they never produced them to begin with
Yes, they did. The '96-'98 dub of the first two seasons with the Ocean cast was just as much FUNimation's production as anything that came afterwards.
I was under the impression that they "produced" it in the sense that they paid for it and arranged the broadcast rights and such. I thought Ocean did their own directing and voice work/selection.
Well, yes, but I don't see how that constitutes putting produced in parentheses. That's what producing is: hiring and bringing together the necessary skills to make a product. In the early days, they hired Ocean to provide the voice cast, Saban to handle the distribution, and Pioneer the home video. Nowadays, they hire actors directly (or use Sabat's Okratron or whatever the hell it is), have their own home video division, and use networks for distribution rather than syndication. All they've done is substitute hiring companies with hiring individuals (or in the case of the latter, substituting one distribution method for another). It's all the same thing.
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Post by Roland_ELoG » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:27 pm

I guess what I mean then is produced vs .... developed? Directed?

Funimation didn't direct the first few sagas originally. I'm saying I don't mind the changes to the first few sagas, because they wanted the product to be more cohesive, and Ocean's work didn't line up with FUNi's later work. I am more critical of the redubbing in the later sagas.
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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:33 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:Funimation didn't direct the first few sagas originally.
Sure they did. Barry Watson himself personally oversaw a lot of the voice recording, and Byron Watson was responsible for the digital video censoring. These were actual in-house FUNimation employees working on the series itself. I don't see how hiring another company that had voice talent and another dude that does music changes things from what they did later, except that later on everyone else was literally in Texas.

And even now they "out-source" a lot of that work, as Gaffer mentioned, to Sabat's recording studio and then even take some voice recordings from alternate studios for specific actors/roles.
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Post by KingofWisdom » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:05 pm

I guess we don't know what will happen with this JP broadcast audio development, but that could make these Blu-Rays, which may or may not be terrible, worth the purchase.
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Post by qjz123 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:19 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote:The only difference is that TOEI did not give FUNimation the broadcast audio.
I remember Christopher Sabat saying in a panel that when they were originally dubbing DBZ they got a lot of their materials from the mexican spanish dub of the series if they were able to use materials that they didn't recieve from Toei then maybe they would be allowed to do it again now. I hope Toei allows them to do it because they obviously have no interested in releasing the series with the original broadcast audio themselves if they stop Funimation from using it Toei will essentially be saying we don't want to use the broadcast audio but we don't want you to use it either which would suck.
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Post by penguintruth » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:22 pm

If you already have the Dragon Boxes there is no reason to get these.
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Post by TheAldella » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:43 pm

penguintruth wrote:If you already have the Dragon Boxes there is no reason to get these.
Except for the whole Broadcast Audio possibility for later seasons. (SNOT GONNA HAPPEN BUT HEY)
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Post by superrayman3 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:06 pm

To all of the people that keep saying that the broadcast audio possibility isn't going to happen, can we actually let things play out instead of being negative all the time? I mean seriously we get some news that might actually be good for once and what happens? People try to shoot it down before things even have a chance to happen, not only that but people seem to be forgetting that this time we actually have a decent chance of succeeding since Chris Sabat is the one that's going to try pushing this through which can change the playing field in many ways since he's been involved with the series for years and has some influence when it comes to certain DBZ based decisions.
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Post by TheAldella » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:25 pm

superrayman3 wrote:To all of the people that keep saying that the broadcast audio possibility isn't going to happen, can we actually let things play out instead of being negative all the time? I mean seriously we get some news that might actually be good for once and what happens? People try to shoot it down before things even have a chance to happen, not only that but people seem to be forgetting that this time we actually have a decent chance of succeeding since Chris Sabat is the one that's going to try pushing this through which can change the playing field in many ways since he's been involved with the series for years and has some influence when it comes to certain DBZ based decisions.
Woah, I'm just factoring in that it can't even be confirmed to be used Yet, and that the first Season comes out in December, so it's like...Hey, what time do we have to do it? I'm not saying that it will never be used, I'm saying that there probably isn't enough time to get the tapes, get the OK, import them to whatever they use to do this stuff, replace the japanese track, manufacture and put it out in that time.
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Post by qjz123 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:29 pm

TheAldella wrote: Woah, I'm just factoring in that it can't even be confirmed to be used Yet, and that the first Season comes out in December, so it's like...Hey, what time do we have to do it? I'm not saying that it will never be used, I'm saying that there probably isn't enough time to get the tapes, get the OK, import them to whatever they use to do this stuff, replace the japanese track, manufacture and put it out in that time.
The December 31 release date is just a place holder.
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qjz123 wrote:
TheAldella wrote: Woah, I'm just factoring in that it can't even be confirmed to be used Yet, and that the first Season comes out in December, so it's like...Hey, what time do we have to do it? I'm not saying that it will never be used, I'm saying that there probably isn't enough time to get the tapes, get the OK, import them to whatever they use to do this stuff, replace the japanese track, manufacture and put it out in that time.
The December 31 release date is just a place holder.
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Post by Roland_ELoG » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:36 pm

What if anything is the difference between Japanese broadcast audio, and the Japanese track on the home releases so far? Mono vs stereo?
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Post by qjz123 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:45 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:What if anything is the difference between Japanese broadcast audio, and the Japanese track on the home releases so far? Mono vs stereo?
Listen to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA1St_lORuM
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:46 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:What if anything is the difference between Japanese broadcast audio, and the Japanese track on the home releases so far? Mono vs stereo?
Here is an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA1St_lORuM :D

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