The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[FoolsGil]

What if after achieving his perfect form, Cell got bored and decided he wasn't going to destroy the Earth and instead just wanted to train with Goku and Vegeta or something of that sort?

You ever read Honor Trip? Not sure there's a better "Cell turns good" story than that.

I am aware of Honor Trip and it seems interesting, but the whole thing with Cell getting hit in the head and having a change of heart and then begging Gohan for forgiveness seemed really weird for me.I may go back to it sometime though.

Sound better than Cell deciding he won't be a villain on a whim, but that's just me.

Anywho, under no circumstance would anyone allow Cell to stay on Earth after what he's done, let alone deciding he's not interested in fighting. Everyone attacks. Cell would be forced to defend himself, he kills someone important, Gohan's going SSJ2 and ending him.

[TheUltimateNinja]

You ever read Honor Trip? Not sure there's a better "Cell turns good" story than that.

I am aware of Honor Trip and it seems interesting, but the whole thing with Cell getting hit in the head and having a change of heart and then begging Gohan for forgiveness seemed really weird for me.I may go back to it sometime though.

Sound better than Cell deciding he won't be a villain on a whim, but that's just me.

Anywho, under no circumstance would anyone allow Cell to stay on Earth after what he's done, let alone deciding he's not interested in fighting. Everyone attacks. Cell would be forced to defend himself, he kills someone important, Gohan's going SSJ2 and ending him.

I personally find it extremely bizarre how emotional and submissive Cell becomes, I'd prefer it if he retained more of his original personality. Also, the story doesn't even have an ending.

Cell getting bored is perfectly in character for him, he could just decide that he's too perfect for anyone to provide him a challenge.

Also, they wouldn't really have any choice but to allow him to stay, FPSSJ Gohan is the only one who could even touch him and Gohan won't fight unless he's motivated.

[FoolsGil]

I am aware of Honor Trip and it seems interesting, but the whole thing with Cell getting hit in the head and having a change of heart and then begging Gohan for forgiveness seemed really weird for me.I may go back to it sometime though.

Sound better than Cell deciding he won't be a villain on a whim, but that's just me.

Anywho, under no circumstance would anyone allow Cell to stay on Earth after what he's done, let alone deciding he's not interested in fighting. Everyone attacks. Cell would be forced to defend himself, he kills someone important, Gohan's going SSJ2 and ending him.

I personally find it extremely bizarre how emotional and submissive Cell becomes, I'd prefer it if he retained more of his original personality. Also, the story doesn't even have an ending.

Cell getting bored is perfectly in character for him, he could just decide that he's too perfect for anyone to provide him a challenge.

Also, they wouldn't really have any choice but to allow him to stay, FPSSJ Gohan is the only one who could even touch him and Gohan won't fight unless he's motivated.

If the fact he's absorbed millions of people and they're crying for justice isn't a motivation, what about there's no reason to believe Cell isn't lying, or that just as easily as he changed his mind, he could change it back?

And they always have a choice. Vegeta and Goku has the choice to find out how to get to SSJ2 so they can kill Cell themselves, for example.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Sound better than Cell deciding he won't be a villain on a whim, but that's just me.

Anywho, under no circumstance would anyone allow Cell to stay on Earth after what he's done, let alone deciding he's not interested in fighting. Everyone attacks. Cell would be forced to defend himself, he kills someone important, Gohan's going SSJ2 and ending him.

I personally find it extremely bizarre how emotional and submissive Cell becomes, I'd prefer it if he retained more of his original personality. Also, the story doesn't even have an ending.

Cell getting bored is perfectly in character for him, he could just decide that he's too perfect for anyone to provide him a challenge.

Also, they wouldn't really have any choice but to allow him to stay, FPSSJ Gohan is the only one who could even touch him and Gohan won't fight unless he's motivated.

If the fact he's absorbed millions of people and they're crying for justice isn't a motivation, what about there's no reason to believe Cell isn't lying, or that just as easily as he changed his mind, he could change it back?

And they always have a choice. Vegeta and Goku has the choice to find out how to get to SSJ2 so they can kill Cell themselves, for example.

Cell had his kids beat the shit out of Gohan's friends and was threatening to destroy the earth and Gohan still wasn't motivated enough, if Cell decided to just do nothing he definitely wouldn't want to fight him.

Also, why would Cell lie? He has enough power to easily beat all of them, so he has no reason to.

Cell also has the option to train in the event that such a thing occurs.

[FoolsGil]

Cell had his kids beat the shit out of Gohan's friends and was threatening to destroy the earth and Gohan still wasn't motivated enough, if Cell decided to just do nothing he definitely wouldn't want to fight him.

You're really depending on one moment of cowardness to determine everything Gohan would or wouldn't do. But there are plenty of times of courage when Gohan against all odds attacked. What I'm getting at is eventually, Gohan will strike back against Cell. one moment of weakness, versus 4 to 5 moments of strength.

Also, why would Cell lie? He has enough power to easily beat all of them, so he has no reason to.

Because his blood, body, and technological wiring demands him to be a villain? Cell isn't a creature of free will. If he was, he wouldn't have went through all this trouble to become perfect, he wouldn't be absorbing people, or the Androids. He could do any number of things, but his programming tells him kill and destroy. It was only choice words from Trunks that Cell decided to have some fun, but at the end of his Cell Games, back to killing and destroying.

But let's say that he did have free will. Why would Cell lie? Umm, because he dealt so much pain there's no reason to trust him? I don't know, would you personally trust a serial killer who escaped the law who moves in next door and promises he won't hurt anyone anymore? The only answer is no. You wouldn't trust this serial killer, and so, you can't trust Cell, some monster on a whim decides he isn't going to be bad anymore after everything he's done.

Cell also has the option to train in the event that such a thing occurs.

Hence self defense which goes back to my initial statement. They're not going to just tolerate Cell being on Earth. Cell would be forced to defend himself. Someone dies, Gohan's not going to like that. At that point, the argument would be if Cell could reach his Super Perfect Form via training when Gohan reaches SSJ2 by rage.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Cell had his kids beat the shit out of Gohan's friends and was threatening to destroy the earth and Gohan still wasn't motivated enough, if Cell decided to just do nothing he definitely wouldn't want to fight him.

You're really depending on one moment of cowardness to determine everything Gohan would or wouldn't do. But there are plenty of times of courage when Gohan against all odds attacked. What I'm getting at is eventually, Gohan will strike back against Cell. one moment of weakness, versus 4 to 5 moments of strength.

Also, why would Cell lie? He has enough power to easily beat all of them, so he has no reason to.

Because his blood, body, and technological wiring demands him to be a villain? Cell isn't a creature of free will. If he was, he wouldn't have went through all this trouble to become perfect, he wouldn't be absorbing people, or the Androids. He could do any number of things, but his programming tells him kill and destroy. It was only choice words from Trunks that Cell decided to have some fun, but at the end of his Cell Games, back to killing and destroying.

But let's say that he did have free will. Why would Cell lie? Umm, because he dealt so much pain there's no reason to trust him? I don't know, would you personally trust a serial killer who escaped the law who moves in next door and promises he won't hurt anyone anymore? The only answer is no. You wouldn't trust this serial killer, and so, you can't trust Cell, some monster on a whim decides he isn't going to be bad anymore after everything he's done.

Cell also has the option to train in the event that such a thing occurs.

Hence self defense which goes back to my initial statement. They're not going to just tolerate Cell being on Earth. Cell would be forced to defend himself. Someone dies, Gohan's not going to like that. At that point, the argument would be if Cell could reach his Super Perfect Form via training when Gohan reaches SSJ2 by rage.

Cell would be just fine as if he decided to stop killing/being evil Goku and Gohan would leave him alone, and that's all that matters as none of the others can do shit to him. He doesn't even need to fight them as with his full power he can easily tank all of their attacks until they wear themselves out.

[FoolsGil]

Cell had his kids beat the shit out of Gohan's friends and was threatening to destroy the earth and Gohan still wasn't motivated enough, if Cell decided to just do nothing he definitely wouldn't want to fight him.

You're really depending on one moment of cowardness to determine everything Gohan would or wouldn't do. But there are plenty of times of courage when Gohan against all odds attacked. What I'm getting at is eventually, Gohan will strike back against Cell. one moment of weakness, versus 4 to 5 moments of strength.

Also, why would Cell lie? He has enough power to easily beat all of them, so he has no reason to.

Because his blood, body, and technological wiring demands him to be a villain? Cell isn't a creature of free will. If he was, he wouldn't have went through all this trouble to become perfect, he wouldn't be absorbing people, or the Androids. He could do any number of things, but his programming tells him kill and destroy. It was only choice words from Trunks that Cell decided to have some fun, but at the end of his Cell Games, back to killing and destroying.

But let's say that he did have free will. Why would Cell lie? Umm, because he dealt so much pain there's no reason to trust him? I don't know, would you personally trust a serial killer who escaped the law who moves in next door and promises he won't hurt anyone anymore? The only answer is no. You wouldn't trust this serial killer, and so, you can't trust Cell, some monster on a whim decides he isn't going to be bad anymore after everything he's done.

Cell also has the option to train in the event that such a thing occurs.

Hence self defense which goes back to my initial statement. They're not going to just tolerate Cell being on Earth. Cell would be forced to defend himself. Someone dies, Gohan's not going to like that. At that point, the argument would be if Cell could reach his Super Perfect Form via training when Gohan reaches SSJ2 by rage.

Cell would be just fine as if he decided to stop killing/being evil Goku and Gohan would leave him alone, and that's all that matters as none of the others can do shit to him. He doesn't even need to fight them as with his full power he can easily tank all of their attacks until they wear themselves out.

So because you can't stand up to my previous logical statements, you double down? Well, that's your decision I guess. Good thing about forums, even if you're wrong, your opinion is your own, and no one can take that from you.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Hence self defense which goes back to my initial statement. They're not going to just tolerate Cell being on Earth. Cell would be forced to defend himself. Someone dies, Gohan's not going to like that. At that point, the argument would be if Cell could reach his Super Perfect Form via training when Gohan reaches SSJ2 by rage.

So because you can't stand up to my previous logical statements, you double down? Well, that's your decision I guess. Good thing about forums, even if you're wrong, your opinion is your own, and no one can take that from you.

I was going to sleep so I didn't have the time to respond, drop the condescending attitude.

You're really depending on one moment of cowardness to determine everything Gohan would or wouldn't do. But there are plenty of times of courage when Gohan against all odds attacked. What I'm getting at is eventually, Gohan will strike back against Cell. one moment of weakness, versus 4 to 5 moments of strength.

All of those were in the heat of the moment when the enemy was right in front of him. He also always did so with provocation and due to clear ill intent from the enemy, since Cell has decided to do nothing he definitely wouldn't get a rage boost out of nowhere.

Because his blood, body, and technological wiring demands him to be a villain? Cell isn't a creature of free will. If he was, he wouldn't have went through all this trouble to become perfect, he wouldn't be absorbing people, or the Androids. He could do any number of things, but his programming tells him kill and destroy. It was only choice words from Trunks that Cell decided to have some fun, but at the end of his Cell Games, back to killing and destroying.

But let's say that he did have free will. Why would Cell lie? Umm, because he dealt so much pain there's no reason to trust him? I don't know, would you personally trust a serial killer who escaped the law who moves in next door and promises he won't hurt anyone anymore? The only answer is no. You wouldn't trust this serial killer, and so, you can't trust Cell, some monster on a whim decides he isn't going to be bad anymore after everything he's done.

Beerus' job is to destroy, but they trust him just fine. He's extinguished countless planets of life and threatened to do so to Earth as well, but they don't take issue with that, compared to Beerus Cell's killcount is actually incredibly low.

Hence self defense which goes back to my initial statement. They're not going to just tolerate Cell being on Earth. Cell would be forced to defend himself. Someone dies, Gohan's not going to like that. At that point, the argument would be if Cell could reach his Super Perfect Form via training when Gohan reaches SSJ2 by rage.

Goku and Gohan would, Goku has a history of letting enemies off the hook even when they're still evil like Piccolo and Vegeta, he certainly wouldn't attack Cell who's decided to stop being evil on his own. The others may still be pissed but they're too weak to do anything.

[TheGodfather93]

What if Goku's pod landed on Kami's Lookout instead of the forest near Grandpa Gohan's house?

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) When the Demonic Being had first appeared in the Future Timeline, who would have been the next black-hearted scum of the Universe after him?

2) Also, could Goku Black have created the Scythe version of his Violent Fierce God Slicer before achieving the Super Saiyan Rosé transformation?

[Ki Breaker]

* Even if black never met f zamasu, Future Zamasu would still eventually turn evil, we will most likely get a trunks black as he could be on their god tube, shown defeating demon king and zamasu might see him as the cause shin died.
Zamasu gets like that sometimes

* There is no way to tell, if he found out how to do that with rage or whatever before hand, I don't see why he can't do it..
After all a transformation only gives more power, dosen't help learning new techniques

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Son Gohan, Son Goten, Trunks Brief, and Videl had all trained under Piccolo in the 7 years following the Cell Games? With Broly starting off his awakening by going to Super Saiyan 2?

2) And if Bio-Broly had never been weakened through exposure to the Culture Fluid?

[kinisking]

What if Goku's pod landed on Kami's Lookout instead of the forest near Grandpa Gohan's house?

This time Goku doesn't survive his fall.

[Gog]

What if Goku's pod landed on Kami's Lookout instead of the forest near Grandpa Gohan's house?

Well this covered it well https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8684933/1/Guardian

[Gog]

1) Son Gohan, Son Goten, Trunks Brief, and Videl had all trained under Piccolo in the 7 years following the Cell Games? With Broly starting off his awakening by going to Super Saiyan 2?

2) And if Bio-Broly had never been weakened through exposure to the Culture Fluid?

1) Broly would be effortlessly crushed, by Gohan, Goten, and Trunks. Super Saiyan two isn't going to change the outcome, as legendary super Saiyan being as strong as it.

2) If he never was weakened, the boys would either die or get Vegeta and Gohan, to kick Broly to the curb

[Ki Breaker]

What if Goku's pod landed on Kami's Lookout instead of the forest near Grandpa Gohan's house?

This time Goku doesn't survive his fall.

That was good

[Merged Zamasu]

What if Zamasu had met Vegeta instead of Goku? Would Zamasu's opinion of mortals possibly change? Vegeta is far more respectful and elegant than Goku is, so he wouldn't just repeatedly annoy/humiliate Zamasu.

...

And we would have Vegeta Black.
/nerdgasm

[Gog]

What if Zamasu had met Vegeta instead of Goku? Would Zamasu's opinion of mortals possibly change? Vegeta is far more respectful and elegant than Goku is, so he wouldn't just repeatedly annoy/humiliate Zamasu.

...

And we would have Vegeta Black.
/nerdgasm

No his opinions of mortals would plummet far below, what Goku ever did. Vegeta is not more respectful, and elegant he's a brat, an asshole, Vegeta would tell Zamasu he's not worth his time, Vegeta would one hit Zamasu. Vegeta would tell him he's worthless. Zamasu's hate of mortals might be greater than what we got in canon.

[Doctor.]

Took 74 pages but the thread got stickied.

I should get a medal for this honor.

[miguelnuva1]

1. What if Frieza never destroyed Planet Vegeta?

2. What if a female saiyan landed on Earth with Goku and he marries her after the 23 budokai?

3. What if Goku taught the humans and Piccolo maxi fusion during the saiyan saga or the Android saga?