Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[RandomGuy96]

Never. Not until Bra defeats Vegetto and Buu and becomes maximum.

[TheMightyOzaru]

SSJ God is better than Mirai Gohan beating Dabura .

[Rocketman]

Broly was better than SSG.

[RandomGuy96]

"Being pissed on is better than being shat on".

Broly was better than SSG.

DBM Broly or Actual Broly? Either way... isn't that a little harsh?

[dbzfan7]

Broly was better than SSG.

Of course he is because Broly is maximum.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Broly was better than SSG.

Not even close. I can buy a God form being stronger than Super Vegetto. Not a Broly.

[RandomGuy96]

Except it's not a god, it's a magical Goku wank power up with a stupid name. Also, Broly is not actually maximum in the series, jokes aside, so he's not as bad as SSG.

I can buy a lot of people being stronger than Vegetto. He's just two saiyans merged. What I couldn't buy the first time I watched the series were two weaklings being stronger than an ancient god eating monster + the most powerful warrior in the universe who can break Goku over his knee + the most powerful god in the universe + two kids who are supposed to be close to said weaklings + another god + (kind of) yet another god.

[Rocketman]

DBM Broly or Actual Broly? Either way... isn't that a little harsh?

DBM Broly.

I don't think it's possible for mere text to convey my hatred for SSG, so allow that comparison to do so.

[Kamiccolo9]

DBM Broly or Actual Broly? Either way... isn't that a little harsh?

DBM Broly.

I don't think it's possible for mere text to convey my hatred for SSG, so allow that comparison to do so.

Can you try? I need some ammunition for my next rant against SSJG.

[RandomGuy96]

Anti-SSG rants are always nice to listen to.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Sigh... It's not that bad people . I certainly prefer the SSJ4 concept but come on.

Except it's not a god...

It's a God form. He can sense divine Ki.

[Kamiccolo9]

Sigh... It's not that bad people . I certainly prefer the SSJ4 concept but come on.

Except it's not a god...

It's a God form. He can sense divine Ki.

It's pretty bad.
Except the design. I can live with that.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Sigh... It's not that bad people . I certainly prefer the SSJ4 concept but come on.

Except it's not a god...

It's a God form. He can sense divine Ki.

It's pretty bad.
Except the design. I can live with that.

I don't see how. The concept makes just about as much sense as the Buu saga does...

[Kamiccolo9]

I don't see how. The concept makes just about as much sense as the Buu saga does...

.....And that's supposed to be a point in it's favor?
At least the Buu Arc has a reason to be wacky. That was Toryama going back to his gag manga style. SSJG is just stupid, boring Goku wank.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I don't see how. The concept makes just about as much sense as the Buu saga does...

.....And that's supposed to be a point in it's favor?
At least the Buu Arc has a reason to be wacky. That was Toryama going back to his gag manga style. SSJG is just stupid, boring Goku wank.

Goku wank? A temporary form that anyone can have and a form Goku lost in is Goku wank?

[Kamiccolo9]

I don't see how. The concept makes just about as much sense as the Buu saga does...

.....And that's supposed to be a point in it's favor?
At least the Buu Arc has a reason to be wacky. That was Toryama going back to his gag manga style. SSJG is just stupid, boring Goku wank.

Goku wank? A temporary form that anyone can have and a form Goku lost in is Goku wank?

You didn't see Gohan or Vegeta in the form, did you? Even though both of them were stronger than Goku in this movie.
But nope. Can't have anyone but Goku saving the day.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Beers would have been bored with Gohan or Vegeta and would have blown up the Earth. It's also astonishing how people forget that Goku is a fan favorite in Japan, it's Goku or nothing. That's how it's always been, save the Cell arc, and that's how it's always going to be. Sure Toriyama or Toei may throw Vegeta or Gohan a bone once in a while but this show has always been about Goku. I don't see why people are getting mad about it all of the sudden. You also didn't address my point about Goku losing. It can't be wank if he loses with a form potentially anyone in the group can have.

[Kamiccolo9]

Beers would have been bored with Gohan or Vegeta and would have blown up the Earth. It's also astonishing how people forget that Goku is a fan favorite in Japan, it's Goku or nothing. That's how it's always been, save the Cell arc, and that's how it's always going to be. Sure Toriyama or Toei may throw Vegeta or Gohan a bone once in a while but this show has always been about Goku. I don't see why people are getting mad about it all of the sudden. You also didn't address my point about Goku losing. It can't be wank if he loses with a form potentially anyone in the group can have.

Just because it's nationally sponsored Goku wank doesn't prevent it from being Goku wank. And it's not an "all of the sudden" thing; plenty of people were pissed about Gohan being thrown to the wayside in the Buu Arc because he "wasn't popular enough."
Why not? Beers saved the day because Goku managed to put up a good fight. SSJG Vegeta or Gohan could have done the same thing. If SSJG is a multiplier, then Gohan may have even won. But nope. We get Goku. Who, by the way, has done a complete 180 from his passing the torch mentality from the Buu Arc.

[Saiga]

DBM Broly or Actual Broly? Either way... isn't that a little harsh?

DBM Broly.

I don't think it's possible for mere text to convey my hatred for SSG, so allow that comparison to do so.

I am in full agreement there.

@MightyOzaru Ahh, the good old "it's just like [thing that it isn't like at all], so it's ok" fallacy.

[RandomGuy96]

Speaking of which, I just want to bring up two quotes (that may or may not be dub only) that perfectly sum up Toei's stance on Goku and Gohan:

Buutenks (to Gohan): "Without your father holding your hand, you really are nothing."

Goku (to Trunks): "Stay out of this! This is my fight."

Why not? Beers saved the day because Goku managed to put up a good fight. SSJG Vegeta or Gohan could have done the same thing. If SSJG is a multiplier, then Gohan may have even won. But nope. We get Goku. Who, by the way, has done a complete 180 from his passing the torch mentality from the Buu Arc.

Correction: if it's a multiplier, then Gotenks or Gohan would have MURDERSTOMPED Bills/Beers/Birus whatever the fuck the cat's name is.