Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Chuquita]

Still sad that nor Goku or Vegeta will be SSJs in this movie

Good, Super Saiyan has been done to death.

Besides Goku absorbed Super Saiyan God into his body so his base form is actually stronger than his SSJ3 form.

And thus Ultimate/Mystic Goku, was born.

But I would really love to see the aesthetics of the Super Saiyan God appear again the FnF. I loved the design of the transformation.

Seconded so much. *Points to her avatar.* I especially want to see Gokû learn more about that ki blast absorption technique he surprised himself with at the end of BOG when he jumped into ssjg form the 2nd time.

I understand there's no guarantees, but I'm holding out hope based on that magenta lightning behind Gokû on the poster for F.

[Sandubadear]

They said that the Galactic Patrol turns a blind eye to Frieza and Saiyans because they're weak and are only stronger than baby Goku, so there's no reason for Jaco to show up because of Frieza. I also hope they have a better reason for Jaco to show up other than what I just said.

[Hugo Boss]

I can't see Vegeta as the next God of Destruction, but who knows?

I don't see that happening because we already know how Z ends, and Bejita doesn't look like a God, to me. The God Powers will probably be a temporary thing.

Maybe it's just me, but I think Toriyama is not necessarily following the final chapter while writing those scripts. It's like he is trying to continue the story just after the evil Boo was defeated and create a new way.

[shinmaru]

I can't see Vegeta as the next God of Destruction, but who knows?

I don't see that happening because we already know how Z ends, and Bejita doesn't look like a God, to me. The God Powers will probably be a temporary thing.

Maybe it's just me, but I think Toriyama is not necessarily following the final chapter while writing those scripts. It's like he is trying to continue the story just after the evil Boo was defeated and create a new way.

I like the Classic DBZ over the new, but I'm hoping that he does so we get more DBZ. They did that with the 80s Transformers too, it haves endings.

[Kakarot9001]

Still sad that nor Goku or Vegeta will be SSJs in this movie

There's most likely a grander scheme as to why Goku and Vegeta aren't going SSJ in the movie.

Like what?

And thus Ultimate/Mystic Goku, was born.

But I would really love to see the aesthetics of the Super Saiyan God appear again the FnF. I loved the design of the transformation.

Not really, SSJG design was pretty lame but I would like to see Vegeta as a God even for once.

All that swap in FnF really makes me sick... So Goku/Vegeta are now Mystic and Gohan don't?

WHY?

Maybe it's just me, but I think Toriyama is not necessarily following the final chapter while writing those scripts. It's like he is trying to continue the story just after the evil Boo was defeated and create a new way.

Well, I really hope don't... DB was good the way it ended in the manga or GT lol

[Dyno]

I don't see that happening because we already know how Z ends, and Bejita doesn't look like a God, to me. The God Powers will probably be a temporary thing.
Hey who knows if we must believe Beerus there are still many foes to fight before DBZ ends, anything can happen. I'm very curious about what is going to happen to DBZ after this movie.

The End of Z blocks many things from happening, even Tarble won't appear as long as it continues to be the future of all these new stuff. Kinda sad, I must say.

Maybe it's just me, but I think Toriyama is not necessarily following the final chapter while writing those scripts. It's like he is trying to continue the story just after the evil Boo was defeated and create a new way.

I also don't see Toriyama re-writing for the third time a new end to Z. But... It is Toriyama we are talking about.

[mAcChaos]

I don't see that happening because we already know how Z ends, and Bejita doesn't look like a God, to me. The God Powers will probably be a temporary thing.
Hey who knows if we must believe Beerus there are still many foes to fight before DBZ ends, anything can happen. I'm very curious about what is going to happen to DBZ after this movie.

The End of Z blocks many things from happening, even Tarble won't appear as long as it continues to be the future of all these new stuff. Kinda sad, I must say.

Maybe it's just me, but I think Toriyama is not necessarily following the final chapter while writing those scripts. It's like he is trying to continue the story just after the evil Boo was defeated and create a new way.

I also don't see Toriyama re-writing for the third time a new end to Z. But... It is Toriyama we are talking about.

How does EoZ block anything? We only see them for a few hours of a day. We have no idea what else was going on then. They could have been fighting Beerus again the day before for all we know.

[Dyno]

Don't remember saying something about Bills specifically... However, Tarble can't be around without being shown, for example.

[mAcChaos]

Why? I don't get the Tarble thing.

[Dyno]

I would like to see him again. But as long as that end insists to exist, Tarble can't appear and stay, because it would contradict the fact that Tarble is nowhere to be seen in the final chapters. And it would not have a point for him to re-appear and then leave Earth once again, that would be plenty stupid. For Tarble to appear now, End of Z must be re-written for him to fit it.

[VegettoEX]

Jaco left Earth at the end of his series, and yet he's back for the movie.

Nothing stopping Tarble from leaving and coming back.

There's no contradiction here that requires a second re-write to the end of the manga.

[Sandubadear]

Tarble lives in another planet. He just came to Earth to ask Vegeta's help to defeat the Aka duo. After that he went back to his planet. He continues living there, so I don't get why he must be on Earth to exist.

[Dyno]

Jaco came to extinct Kakarot (his job). He leaves because... Here is not his home planet/there's nothing for him here or for whatever other reason. He is back to accomplish his job.

Can you imagine a reason for Tarble to appear again before the End of Z? Imagine Tarble coming back allowing Vegeta to achieve Super Saiyan God (it is not needed, but still), and then he leaves... Seriously.

EDIT: You guys didn't understand yet? Hope Mewzard is around to explain it, he is always undestanding what I intend to say.

[Luso Saiyan]

Can you imagine a reason for Tarble to appear again before the End of Z?

You're the one with the burden of proof for why he can't appear again.

[Dyno]

*He appears, does whatever the author wants him to do and then he vanishes again, thus explaining why he didn't appear in the End of Z*. Yeah, amazing. Wonderful reason to bring him back.

Or...

*He appears, does whatever the author wants him to do and then he stays on Earth, thus leading to many wonder why he didn't appear in the End of Z*.

[Kamiccolo9]

*He appears, does whatever the author wants him to do and then he vanishes again, thus explaining why he didn't appear in the End of Z*. Yeah, amazing. Wonderful reason to bring him back.

Or...

*He appears, does whatever the author wants him to do and then he stays on Earth, thus leading to many wonder why he didn't appear in the End of Z*.

The end of Z covers a period of a few hours out of one day. They don't have to explain anything.

[Dyno]

Exactly. Before the last hour he can't appear as he is nowhere to be seen. After that there's no problem at all, Tarble would appear after Z, in this case.

[Kamiccolo9]

Exactly. Before the last hour he can't appear as he is nowhere to be seen. After that there's no problem at all, Tarble would appear after Z, in this case.

Why can't he appear before that?

[VegettoEX]

I don't understand why you want to make this so/more difficult for yourself.

Jaco came and left. He still has friends here. He lives elsewhere. He can come and leave as he pleases.

Tarble came. We don't know if he left. He made new friends here. He lives elsewhere. He can come and leave as he pleases.

You don't have to like how it's written. That's fine. But... like... characters are allowed to do things.

At this point, however, the discussion has little to do with Revival of "F", seeing as how Tarble isn't confirmed to be a part of it in any way.

[Dyno]

He can come and leave as he pleases.

Wouldn't that be somewhat... Stupid? His role would be just *appear and disappear*, *be useful here. Now be absent there*...

At this point, however, the discussion has little to do with Revival of "F", seeing as how Tarble isn't confirmed to be a part of it in any way.

Agreed. Maybe another time/more adequate place I try to explain it better.