Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by ryou766 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:01 pm

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This shot of Black, though. How he just looked down at Goku in addition to the bgm sent chills down my spine.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by Sodhi » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:03 pm

ryou766 wrote:Image

This shot of Black, though. How he just looked down at Goku in addition to the bgm sent chills down my spine.
He seems to get best entrances I have seen in a while from dragon ball.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:45 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
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Kishido wrote:Is it me or why does Gokunlooks like a regular Super Saiyan instead of 2?
Looks like they drew him as a regular Super Saiyan in this episode. Could be an error, or maybe he was just using regular SSJ against Trunks because his SSJ is far above Trunks's SSJ2.

Anyways, next week look amazing.
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It visually reminds me a lot of Karasawa's last episode, I wonder if he has Wanpak with him again.
Man SS without aura looks so weird (any SS transformation) but yeah next week does look great!
That sort of stuff happened quite frequently in Z, too. Not say that's an excuse, but Toei have always been quite lazy when it comes to provide aura for SSJ transformations on a constant basis. My guess is that having the aura's frequently would be too much work for them.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by Cursemark505 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:00 pm

An episode supervised by Onishi with key animation from Kuroyanagi should have looked much better.

Super can make a mess out of anyone.

It's completely unacceptable for their talent to have been downgraded to this level.
FortuneSSJ wrote:I noticed they have been doing this "white shades" more and more often in the last episodes.
I don't remember seeing this in other animes. Is Toei the only studio that uses this style?!

Bleach started doing it at some point as well.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by Ajay » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:17 pm

Yoichi Onishi only seems alright from what we've seen of him on Super so far. Despite drawing fairly on-model, he tends to give people Kanon faces. I laughed so hard at his Videl back in his debut episode. There were quite a few instances of it with Bulma towards the end of this week's episode, too. Give me the good Onishi back (Ryo)! Do you know much about Yoichi Onishi?

Anyway, you're not wrong, though. I'm surprised Kuroyanagi didn't provide more impressive work. The whole episode seemed kinda rushed to me, honestly. It certainly wasn't terrible by any stretch of the imagination, but it felt less polished compared to the previous two.

I'll be interested to see how (presumably) Karasawa's episode next week pans out. I know that I'm definitely not looking forward to another Kitano episode. Same with Yashima, but I'm a bit less concerned after his last one. It wasn't too bad, really.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by kinisking » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:25 pm

Ajay wrote:Yoichi Onishi's only alright. Despite drawing fairly on-model, he tends to give people Kanon faces. I laughed so hard at his Videl back in his debut episode. There were quite a few instances of it with Bulma towards the end of this week's episode, too. Give me the good Onishi back (Ryo)!

You're not wrong, though. I'm surprised Kuroyanagi didn't provide more impressive work. The whole episode seemed kinda rushed to me, honestly. It certainly wasn't terrible by any stretch of the imagination, but it felt less polished compared to the previous two.

I'll be interested to see how (presumably) Karasawa's episode next week pans out. I know that I'm definitely not looking forward to another Kitano episode. Same with Yashima, but I'm a bit less concerned after his last one. It wasn't too bad, really.
NEP looks straight amazing. I have faith in my boy Karasawa.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by Sodhi » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:42 pm

Cursemark505 wrote:An episode supervised by Onishi with key animation from Kuroyanagi should have looked much better.

Super can make a mess out of anyone.

It's completely unacceptable for their talent to have been downgraded to this level.
I understand Kuroyanagi but whats so special about onishi Yoichi?. He is certainly not onishi ryo.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:21 pm

Ajay wrote:Yoichi Onishi only seems alright from what we've seen of him on Super so far. Despite drawing fairly on-model, he tends to give people Kanon faces. I laughed so hard at his Videl back in his debut episode. There were quite a few instances of it with Bulma towards the end of this week's episode, too. Give me the good Onishi back (Ryo)! Do you know much about Yoichi Onishi?

Anyway, you're not wrong, though. I'm surprised Kuroyanagi didn't provide more impressive work. The whole episode seemed kinda rushed to me, honestly. It certainly wasn't terrible by any stretch of the imagination, but it felt less polished compared to the previous two.

I'll be interested to see how (presumably) Karasawa's episode next week pans out. I know that I'm definitely not looking forward to another Kitano episode. Same with Yashima, but I'm a bit less concerned after his last one. It wasn't too bad, really.
The episode look rushed because it probably is not an important episode for them to focus on. The talents would be better utilized on the important episodes, like the previous two and the next one.

I wouldn't be as impressed if Uchiyama supervised the episode of Goku's very first SSj transformation instead of Minoru Maeda.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by HybridSaiyan » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:35 pm

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They drew SSJ2 Goku amazingly here. The hair, the expression and the lightning all 100% perfection.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by Ajay » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:43 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:The episode look rushed because it probably is not an important episode for them to focus on. The talents would be better utilized on the important episodes, like the previous two and the next one.

I wouldn't be as impressed if Uchiyama supervised the episode of Goku's very first SSj transformation instead of Minoru Maeda.
Well no, you don't give your least talented artists your big scenes, but that's a totally separate issue from a rushed production. The large majority of the episode seemed just fine, but there were several scenes that were visibly scribbled out very quickly, and while that's not unusual for Super, it's strange given the place the schedule is in now, and even more so when you look at where the staff have been lately.
HybridSaiyan wrote:They drew SSJ2 Goku amazingly here. The hair, the expression and the lightning all 100% perfection.
While that's all well and true, this thread is for Super animation discussion. It's best to keep comments regarding other series as part of comparisons. :thumbup:
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by HybridSaiyan » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:46 pm

Ajay wrote:
While that's all well and true, this thread is for Super animation discussion. It's best to keep comments regarding other series as part of comparisons. :thumbup:
Oops, sorry! I just thought I'd post a SSJ2 Goku image since users were discussing the form earlier. :lol:

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:49 pm

They need to stop spreading what they have too thinly. Keep all of the good animators for Tate Naoki's episode and just make one good episode every two months. That's their only hope at this point.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by HybridSaiyan » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:06 pm

Noah wrote:Wow, this episode art/animation was abysmal if we compare to the last one (#48), some off-model faces, they didn't get Goku SSJ2 hair right and Trunks as a SSJ2 was laughable, not difference at all, they could at least try something like this:

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Also Trunks fighting against Dabura was pitiful, hope they improve in the next one.
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Trunks actually looks more like an SSJ2 here? His hair strands are sharper and spikier.

but i'm sorry, this just looks terrible.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by nite_jay » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:18 pm

The SSJ2 shots of Goku in the NEP look good but did anyone else see what looked like choppy animation as Goku Black looked up?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by Sodhi » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:20 pm

nite_jay wrote:The SSJ2 shots of Goku in the NEP look good but did anyone else see what looked like choppy animation as Goku Black looked up?
What's choppy about that?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by kinisking » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:37 pm

JulieYBM wrote:They need to stop spreading what they have too thinly. Keep all of the good animators for Tate Naoki's episode and just make one good episode every two months. That's their only hope at this point.
That would be horrible. Shimanuki and Karasawa deserve better. I'd rather all the episodes be decent than one episode being amazing while the rest are shit. The way it currently is, is much better imo. We still have good episodes every now and then without resorting to that.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:37 pm

Sodhi wrote:
nite_jay wrote:The SSJ2 shots of Goku in the NEP look good but did anyone else see what looked like choppy animation as Goku Black looked up?
What's choppy about that?
It does look a bit odd, almost like its moving a lot slower than the other shots while still being fast. I really cant explain it but I dont think its bad or choppy but rather its just the gif.


I was too busy looking at how Goku seems to catch the punch of Black with his balls and throw him to the ground :lol:
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by Sodhi » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:41 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote: I was too busy looking at how Goku seems to catch the punch of Black with his balls and throw him to the ground :lol:
Lol ikr, I thought black was going for a nut shot and goku blocked it in time.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:43 pm

Sodhi wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote: I was too busy looking at how Goku seems to catch the punch of Black with his balls and throw him to the ground :lol:
Lol ikr, I thought black was going for a nut shot and goku blocked it in time.
I think Black will surpass (original and Kai version) Frieza as my favorite villain if he really goes for the nut shot on purpose.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #49]

Post by nite_jay » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:45 pm

Sodhi wrote:
nite_jay wrote:The SSJ2 shots of Goku in the NEP look good but did anyone else see what looked like choppy animation as Goku Black looked up?
What's choppy about that?
The whole thing doesn't look choppy but it looked like it just jumps to the last frame as he looks up. Although it probably was just the GIF.

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