Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Wilderness]

Hi. I'm a long-time lurker, first time poster.

One thing I'm confused about is these made-up dialogues by members here. They're just so out of character and terribly clichè

More on-topic, it certainly is a shame that many characters and their abilities/strengths have long been forgotten. It's a harsh pattern you see in the DBZ franchise: people being in the top 5 strongest characters in the series, to being overthrown entirely and become nothing more than a filler character when it comes to battles.

Gohan, for example, over and over again became a highly strong and powerful character, but in this movie (and BOG) he's just become so redundant.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

who in the right mind would complain about vegeta beating or killing Freeza?

"fanfiction"?

oh pls tell me which character should beat Freeza so that it wont look like fanfiction?

originality?
akira toriyama giving vegeta what he deserved before he moves on to the 12 other universe.
for the non vegeta fans, sry but it is a fact that vegeta deserves a chance to fight Freeza.

imo the "I'm the king of all saiyans" is something i have been waiting since for ever to be said by vegeta.

without the 12 universe thing and new character even akira toriyama's story's in new movies would look like fanfiction.

all in all the movie seems to be interessting thats for sure.

If your talking about that rumour of the leaked ending then I don't think Vegeta killing Freeza is the main issue at least for me anyway, the main problem is the way he takes him out, it is just stupid and something I could totally see a Vegeta fan come up with also him saying King of all Saiyans is pretty silly, Vegeta has moved on from that I feel.

[bleed0range]

Has any other dragon ball thing released in recent times been filled with as much negativity before it was even out as this film? It's quite interesting to note the change from when yo! Son Goku and friends return was announced way back then to people complaining so much about actually getting more new dragon ball. ... There was a time when it seemed that would never happen at all and I miss the positivity and excitement we all used to have. Feels like we almost take it for granted now. Especially considering Toriyama had been heavily involved in the creation of these things.

[dbzfan7]

Man I hope there is no stupid King of Saiyans speech. No point for a race Vegeta doesn't care for, nor a job he can't even do.

Vegeta: I am the King of All Saiyans...

Freeza: King of what...6 Saiyans...congrats. I'm emperor of the universe, but at least I have far more than 6 subjects.

Vegeta: Shut up!

Freeza: Hell I even do my job and organize the World Trade Organization...while you just sit on your rear and proclaim kingship on a dead monkey race. Congrats.

Vegeta: Shut up

Freeza: It's like I told you Vegeta, Like a bitch.

Vegeta : I said shut up (Blows his head off)

Goku : He has a good point.

Vegeta : Do you want to join him ?

Goku : If I do then there will be even less of us around to rule.

Vegeta : Good point I guess I'll let you live.

Freeza: Not dead...KTHXDIE *Kills them both* Now then on to.

Mr. Satan: It is I, the champion of the universe.

Freeza: No...not Mr. Satan. Impossible!

Mr. Satan: Prepare to meet your doom at the hands of the champ, Mr. Satan!

Freeza: NOOOOOOOOO! *Killed by the greatest human being ever*


And scene for the best movie ever. Approved by Mr. Satan.

[Dyno]

Where did people come up with that Vegeta's line?

[Low Tone G]

Has any other dragon ball thing released in recent times been filled with as much negativity before it was even out as this film? It's quite interesting to note the change from when yo! Son Goku and friends return was announced way back then to people complaining so much about actually getting more new dragon ball. ... There was a time when it seemed that would never happen at all and I miss the positivity and excitement we all used to have. Feels like we almost take it for granted now. Especially considering Toriyama had been heavily involved in the creation of these things.

I don't want to judge the movie before knowing the story but there some negative sides that can not be overcome with a good story alone:

1. I will bring back an old villain, even if it's Freeza.
2. Speaking about the trailers, there are way too many similarities with the final part o Namek Arc. Even the most characters are the same ones who will be playing major roles.
3. There are not any signs to uncover something more about the other universes.
4. There's a high risk that Toriyama has run out of ideas and that's why rehases the Namek Arc.
5. Inconsistencies of Freeza's abilities that he is able to reach a power that is unimaginable for Goku no matter how much he trains, even if Freeza is self-claimed prodigy.

[SaiyanZ]

That ending between Freeza & Vegeta sounds.....eh, but that I am the king of the Saiyans line should not see the light of day

[Doctor.]

The fact that the entire movie is paralleling the Namek arc is either genius or lazy. Probably a little bit of both and I love it.

[Chuquita]

Re: Negativity

I'm actually not feeling as negative as I used to; probably the biggest reason lesson learned that the various areas that come together to create the movie have to cohesively work together, and I shouldn't focus too hard on a particular thing. Basically, just because a show has one amazing element doesn't mean that alone can overcome a bunch of boring (imo) elements that kind of make it unwatchable even if that one really good element is still there.

I'm not that bummed out anymore about the fact that we probably won't get cool animation is what I'm saying. (And I can always hope that we'll be able to grab Shida or Tate or both for the next film).

My other complaints about being sad that it's Freeza again instead of somebody new are slightly lowered compared to before. The complaint about "what about the other 11 universes?" still stands, but that's another "hoping it gets addressed in the next film" thing now; I really liked all the theories people were posting about how different rules for different universes could make things challenging for Gokû and the others if they had to enter one (like the one about "ki can't be accessed" or "ki can be accessed but incredibly difficult to control".)

[Dyno]

Don't think the "12 Universes" will be forgotten. As a last case, Toriyama will ask someone to continue his work focusing on this while he supervises it, come up with ideas/designs and directioning the series to where he wants. Kind of the position/what he has done to Dragon Ball Online.

[fadeddreams5]

Has any other dragon ball thing released in recent times been filled with as much negativity before it was even out as this film? It's quite interesting to note the change from when yo! Son Goku and friends return was announced way back then to people complaining so much about actually getting more new dragon ball. ... There was a time when it seemed that would never happen at all and I miss the positivity and excitement we all used to have. Feels like we almost take it for granted now. Especially considering Toriyama had been heavily involved in the creation of these things.

I don't want to judge the movie before knowing the story but there some negative sides that can be overcome with a good story alone:

1. I will bring back an old villain, even if it's Freeza.
2. Speaking about the trailers, there are way too many similarities with the final part o Namek Arc. Even the most characters are the same ones who will be playing major roles.
3. There are not any signs to uncover something more about the other universes.
4. There's a high risk that Toriyama has run out of ideas and that's why rehases the Namek Arc.
5. Incocsistencies of Freeza's abilities that he is able to reach a power that is unimaginable for Goku no matter how much he trains, even if Freeza is self-claimed prodigy.

1-4 aren't really valid complaints about the film itself. The movie isn't ripping off the namek arc at all; from what we know, there's just one parallel, and that's actually pretty damn cool.

The real reason this movie is getting hate are:
1. Frieza's method of attaining his new power is stupid beyond belief. It's true that people were skeptical about Frieza's return because they figured he was too weak to be a threat anymore. This training thing confirmed their fears. Apparently, now any villain can come back, train, and become stronger than a SSJ3 or god.

2. Inconsistency in power levels. Piccolo is seen getting punched in the face by a mook, Gohan is seen knocked out cold, and yet, Master Roshi is somehow able to fend off against most of these guys? To be fair, the devil mook might be a fusion or just someone who got a lucky punch in on Piccolo. Gohan may be knocked out by Frieza himself. And Master Roshi...may have trained...

3. Gohan is a SSJ, and again, gets knocked out cold.

4. The SSJG thing introduced in the previous movie is ruining the franchise. Now we have Ultimate Goku and Vegeta, and we are no longer seeing SSJs?

5. No confirmation of Goten, Buu, or Trunks in a movie the latter's future self is directly mentioned.

6. Golden Frieza is a lazy and ugly transformation that is only recently "growing on" people because it was not made by a fan.

1, 3, and 4 are the only things that have really disappointed me so far. 4 being something that BoG brought to the franchise, not FnF.

[Low Tone G]

Has any other dragon ball thing released in recent times been filled with as much negativity before it was even out as this film? It's quite interesting to note the change from when yo! Son Goku and friends return was announced way back then to people complaining so much about actually getting more new dragon ball. ... There was a time when it seemed that would never happen at all and I miss the positivity and excitement we all used to have. Feels like we almost take it for granted now. Especially considering Toriyama had been heavily involved in the creation of these things.

I don't want to judge the movie before knowing the story but there some negative sides that can be overcome with a good story alone:

1. I will bring back an old villain, even if it's Freeza.
2. Speaking about the trailers, there are way too many similarities with the final part o Namek Arc. Even the most characters are the same ones who will be playing major roles.
3. There are not any signs to uncover something more about the other universes.
4. There's a high risk that Toriyama has run out of ideas and that's why rehases the Namek Arc.
5. Incocsistencies of Freeza's abilities that he is able to reach a power that is unimaginable for Goku no matter how much he trains, even if Freeza is self-claimed prodigy.

1-4 aren't really valid complaints about the film itself. The movie isn't ripping off the namek arc at all; from what we know, there's just one parallel, and that's actually pretty damn cool.

The real reason this movie is getting hate are:
1. Freeza's method of attaining his new power is stupid beyond belief. It's true that people were skeptical about Freeza's return because they figured he was too weak to be a threat anymore. This training thing confirmed their fears. Apparently, now any villain can come back, train, and become stronger than a SSJ3 or god.

2. Inconsistency in power levels. Piccolo is seen getting punched in the face by a mook, Gohan is seen knocked out cold, and yet, Master Roshi is somehow able to fend off against most of these guys? To be fair, the devil mook might be a fusion or just someone who got a lucky punch in on Piccolo. Gohan may be knocked out by Freeza himself. And Master Roshi...may have trained...

3. Gohan is a SSJ, and again, gets knocked out cold.

4. The SSJG thing introduced in the previous movie is ruining the franchise. Now we have Ultimate Goku and Vegeta, and we are no longer seeing SSJs?

5. No confirmation of Goten, Buu, or Trunks in a movie the latter's future self is directly mentioned.

6. Golden Freeza is a lazy and ugly transformation that is only recently "growing on" people because it was not made by a fan.

1, 3, and 4 are the only things that have really disappointed me so far. 4 being something that BoG brought to the franchise, not FnF.

I'm aware of these... But my complaints are those mentioned ones.

[ssjjanemba]

There shouldn't even be any complaints about a movie that hasn't been released yet....

[Dyno]

Cool.

[Lord Beerus]

There shouldn't even be any complaints about a movie that hasn't been released yet....

Every person has a right to skeptic as they want to be about the movie as much as people have the right to be hyped about the movie.

[SSJGFrieza]

Wow, people really don't Vegeta to be the hero for once do they?

[Big Momma]

2. Inconsistency in power levels. Piccolo is seen getting punched in the face by a mook, Gohan is seen knocked out cold, and yet, Master Roshi is somehow able to fend off against most of these guys? To be fair, the devil mook might be a fusion or just someone who got a lucky punch in on Piccolo. Gohan may be knocked out by Freeza himself. And Master Roshi...may have trained...

Just because Roshi wasn't shown getting knocked out doesn't mean he won't be having a tough time. And who says all the mooks are the same strength? I'm sure they've got "top tier" soldiers for Piccolo and Gohan and then some cannon fodder for Roshi

4. The SSJG thing introduced in the previous movie is ruining the franchise. Now we have Ultimate Goku and Vegeta, and we are no longer seeing SSJs?

That's neither here nor there, for me. I think it says a lot that Vegeta and Goku can grow past the need for transformations. On the other hand, they're still cool to see.

5. No confirmation of Goten, Buu, or Trunks in a movie the latter's future self is directly mentioned.

I'd imagine there's a good reason for this. I doubt they're just not in it with no explanation.

6. Golden Freeza is a lazy and ugly transformation that is only recently "growing on" people because it was not made by a fan.

Again, I'm neither here-nor-there on the way it looks. But most the people I've seen call it lazy either A) didn't know what to expect in the first place or B)Expected something that would have been akin to a Cooler transformation and equally unoriginal. It's not like Toriyama was just like "Meh, I don't really feel like doing a complex design. Let's just recolor him." (Okay...I mean, I guess that wouldn't be completely impossible...) People have brought this up before and Freeza's fourth form is his natural, base form. If his new transformation is an extension of that, then it would basically be like his version of SSJ or SSJG...which aren't that different from their base forms. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that, even if he wasn't before (IMO, he was), Toriyama is more about simple transformations. And people that are really strong despite how unimpressive they look.


I hate how much I've been dropping Toriyama's name lately...it's just that I've been reading through his interviews on the site and they're super interesting

[Retan]

Wow, people really don't Vegeta to be the hero for once do they?

I do.

[JulieYBM]

I hope Vegeta continues to have a big role, as he did in the last film.

[Marco Polo]

Toei showed us EVERY character in Battle of Gods before that movie's release. Everyone and every form, even Super Saiyan God Goku. I don't see why they'd be hiding Trunks and Goten's appearance in Revival of Freeza.

As for Future Trunks, the only reason he's shown is, I think, to explain to newcomers (or people who might have forgot) why Freeza is revived as a chopped off Android instead of how he was on Namek.