"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Basako]

I haven't seen the volumes myself yet. I'm not sure how they are placed and what is included. I read there was an image of Krilin imagining Frost in second form and also another one of Fost preparing the sting with poison to use in battle.

I'm reading Volume 1 at the moment and they have a bunch of these pages.

Vegeta practising his bingo dance. Him being disappointed that he couldn't perform it. Beerus telling Goku he's the second strongest he's ever fought. Magetta upset over his mediocre test score. Goku punching Monaka in the face. Sorbet being shown in Hell.

No bonus pages with Toyotarou explaining any changes or anything like that before which is why I wondered if they're were supposed to be bonus pages.

I think there could be different kind of bonuses. Some could be considered supplementary to the story, others just gags. But some of them are about the author's work and Toriyama's involvement, like those we got in volume three.

And thanks for the descriptions, I didn't know about those. I'm so going to buy the books as soon as I can.

[sunkensheep]

But thats thinking in terms of a mortal, which Zamasu isn't

It just seems completely arbitrary to pick Goku over anyone else in the tournament, since Goku didn't even perform that well in it. So I like that Toyotaro closed that hole off with that little gag-panel.

I think he picked Goku because by becoming SSB he had the Ki of a God, and Zamasu saw that as he was challenging the gods themselves.

[FortuneSSJ]

Now that Freeza is officially back and he will play a key role, the fact that Toyotaro skipped ROF arc bugs me even more.
He just had to draw one more chapter to wrap up his version and throw it together in Volume 1 with the other 3 he did for the Movie.

The manga will always feel incomplete because of that.

[SaiyanGod117]

Not really. I'm glad he skipped that portion no reason to show it a third time.

[Xeztin]

Now that Freeza is officially back and he will play a key role, the fact that Toyotaro skipped ROF arc bugs me even more.
He just had to draw one more chapter to wrap up his version and throw it together in Volume 1 with the other 3 he did for the Movie.

The manga will always feel incomplete because of that.

I feel the same! Hopefully we can get some sort of special finishing chapter before then after Trunks arc to wrap RoF up? I think if he just continues it's going to be stupid especially if Goku acknowledges an arc that never happened in the manga or at least we didn't see it. They could release a special 4th chapter and finish it or do a volume 1 Kanzenban or complete edition to include it. It's flat out silly we don't have RoF but I think they skipped it because they didn't expect the manga to sell well. Unless Toyotaro recruits someone other than Freeza, it's going to be strange for me. I wonder if Toyotaro will have a problem with this? I'm sure he doesn't want that incomplete feeling if Freeza shows up during the next arc. They could release a special chapter like 26.5 or something, One Piece is always doing that.

[DrakenballP]

So how far along *is* the Manga, and does it end at this current Arc? I haven't been able to find any information past Volume 3, and I'm unsure what is in Volume 3 as I've never read a Manga.

[sintzu]

When Freeza is brought up in the manga they can have someone say "remember what happened last time when he came back" then move on with the RF arc.

[Nejishiki]

So how far along *is* the Manga, and does it end at this current Arc? I haven't been able to find any information past Volume 3, and I'm unsure what is in Volume 3 as I've never read a Manga.

"Son Goku’s Evolution", of the Future Trunks arc, was the latest chapter published in V-Jump. You're not likely to discover information for Dragon Ball Super Volume 4 yet considering the previous volume was released two days ago. Dragon Ball Super Volume 3 features chapters 16-20 alongside its exclusive, bonus pages.

[Lord Beerus]

Now that Freeza is officially back and he will play a key role, the fact that Toyotaro skipped ROF arc bugs me even more.
He just had to draw one more chapter to wrap up his version and throw it together in Volume 1 with the other 3 he did for the Movie.

The manga will always feel incomplete because of that.

I feel the same! Hopefully we can get some sort of special finishing chapter before then after Trunks arc to wrap RoF up? I think if he just continues it's going to be stupid especially if Goku acknowledges an arc that never happened in the manga or at least we didn't see it. They could release a special 4th chapter and finish it or do a volume 1 Kanzenban or complete edition to include it. It's flat out silly we don't have RoF but I think they skipped it because they didn't expect the manga to sell well. Unless Toyotaro recruits someone other than Freeza, it's going to be strange for me. I wonder if Toyotaro will have a problem with this? I'm sure he doesn't want that incomplete feeling if Freeza shows up during the next arc. They could release a special chapter like 26.5 or something, One Piece is always doing that.

I think the best solution would be to have a flashback chapter, much like Future Trunks training with Kaioshin and dealing with Kibito and Babidi in his timeline. I agree that skipping ROF in the manga was not the best decision. Especially now that the arc has great relevance and ties into the story significantly. But I have faith in Toyotaro that he will find a way around it.

[The gr]

Here's the list what I think that's is part of toriyama Outline and it would appear in the Manga version of the Universe survival arc,in 3 catogaries, likely, probably and unlikely

Likely

[spoiler]-Frieza ressurection

-#17 recruitment

-vegeta in the hyperbolic time chamber

-bra birth

-gohan road to Ultimate

-40 hours for the recruitment

-caulifla and Kale transformation

-28 planet

-U7 and 9 being the worst Universe in terms of quality[/spoiler] Probably

[spoiler]-the exhibition matches

-spies in U4

-the zeni subplot

-hit and Frost

-U11,U9,U3 and U2 screentime

-And Yamcha appearing

[/spoiler] Unlikely[spoiler]

-The dojo episode

-the poacher episode

-skinny buu

-kaioken

[/spoiler]

[micah007]

Not really. I'm glad he skipped that portion no reason to show it a third time.

I feel the same. No need.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

So how far along *is* the Manga, and does it end at this current Arc? I haven't been able to find any information past Volume 3, and I'm unsure what is in Volume 3 as I've never read a Manga.

As far as the Japanese volumes, we're up to #3, which takes us up to Chapter 20. That would bring the story up to the point where Trunks buys time for Goku and Vegeta to escape to the past after initially losing to Zamasu. However, Viz has only released volume 1, which only takes you up to the point where Frost reaches his final form in the U6 Tournament. Outside of the collected volumes, V-Jump and Viz are both up to Chapter 24, which I wouldn't spoil the contents of, since it's pretty different from how things play out in the TV show, but it's taking place just after Vegetto Blue defuses.

[HybridSaiyan]

Dat SS Rosé.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Does that in any way indicate a possible colored version?

Love how Vegeta Is kinda wearing his Buu Saga outfit here
Why does kid Trunks have blue hair too though?

[dbgtFO]

Why does kid Trunks have blue hair too though?

Cause Toriyama designed both versions of Trunks with blue hair ever since providing character designs for BoG and Trunks obviously would have the same natural hair color as an alternate timeline version of himself.

[emperior]

About Toriyama's outline for the US arc, here's what I believe comes from him:

- Goku reminding Zeno of the tournament
- Super DBs wish for the winner
- An exhibition match (though I believe Toriyama didn't go into details for it)
- Average Mortal Level, with U9 being worst and U7 second worst
- Tournament rules
- 40 hours of time for recruitment
- 28 planets with intelligent life in U7
- U7 Team
- Bra's birth
- Gohan's training and Goku choosing him as the team leader
- Buu sleeping 2 months
- Freezer's 24 hours resurrection
- Some details about the new characters (such as
Jiren being much stronger than Toppo, Ribrianne being a parody of magical girls, Caulifla having a lot of potential etc...)


I hope there's more to this in Toriyama's outline

[HybridSaiyan]

Why does kid Trunks have blue hair too though?

Cause Toriyama designed both versions of Trunks with blue hair ever since providing character designs for BoG and Trunks obviously would have the same natural hair color as an alternate timeline version of himself.

Why didn't Toei follow in Toriyama's steps then and give Kid Trunks blue hair In the Super?

[dbgtFO]

Why didn't Toei follow in Toriyama's steps then and give Kid Trunks blue hair In the Super?

'Cause it's Toei
But seriously, Toriyama is not that consistent in his artworks, when it comes to colors. Back in his interview for Daizenshuu 1 he said, he didn't really go back to check, if he was consistent and also just goes with whatever he thinks works for that particular piece(he also gave Pilaf light green skin color for BoG instead of blue).
That's why Bulma's hair mostly ended up as purple in the illustrations he did for the manga, while the anime went with teal for her hair colour, because in her very first appearance he drew her with that colour, but went with purple not long after.

So basically they could have looked at the designs and be completely justified in just taking them as guidelines in regards to clothes, but change the colors to what they typically are in animated DB. It's not like they would draw Piccolo with 4 fingers either just because Toriyama does after all.

Funnily enough though in RoF, they gave Bulma's hair the blue color it has today, which was lifted from Toriyama's character design for her, a hair color he also gave her in BoG. In her case it is more believable and not so jarring, than Trunks going from light purple to blue.

[HybridSaiyan]

Why didn't Toei follow in Toriyama's steps then and give Kid Trunks blue hair In the Super?

'Cause it's Toei
But seriously, Toriyama is not that consistent in his artworks, when it comes to colors. Back in his interview for Daizenshuu 1 he said, he didn't really go back to check, if he was consistent and also just goes with whatever he thinks works for that particular piece(he also gave Pilaf light green skin color for BoG instead of blue).
That's why Bulma's hair mostly ended up as purple in the illustrations he did for the manga, while the anime went with teal for her hair colour, because in her very first appearance he drew her with that colour, but went with purple not long after.

So basically they could have looked at the designs and be completely justified in just taking them as guidelines in regards to clothes, but change the colors to what they typically are in animated DB. It's not like they would draw Piccolo with 4 fingers either just because Toriyama does after all.

Funnily enough though in RoF, they gave Bulma's hair the blue color it has today, which was lifted from Toriyama's character design for her, a hair color he also gave her in BoG. In her case it is more believable and not so jarring, than Trunks going from light purple to blue.

Oh yeah, I remember 18 had different color of hair too in the advertisement of promoting the BoG movie.
I'm just puzzled why Toei just never kept Future Trunks' hair purple since that's his iconic look. The future games will have his purple hair style too now. It just adds that unnecessary confusion lol since they're the same person.

[OLKv3]

Why does kid Trunks have blue hair too though?

Cause Toriyama designed both versions of Trunks with blue hair ever since providing character designs for BoG and Trunks obviously would have the same natural hair color as an alternate timeline version of himself.

Why didn't Toei follow in Toriyama's steps then and give Kid Trunks blue hair In the Super?

Kid Trunks isn't the problem, they should have given Future Trunks the same hair color as Kid Trunks, to be consistent with how they've been for the entire DBZ.

[sunkensheep]

Cause Toriyama designed both versions of Trunks with blue hair ever since providing character designs for BoG and Trunks obviously would have the same natural hair color as an alternate timeline version of himself.

Why didn't Toei follow in Toriyama's steps then and give Kid Trunks blue hair In the Super?

Kid Trunks isn't the problem, they should have given Future Trunks the same hair color as Kid Trunks, to be consistent with how they've been for the entire DBZ.

My first guess was that they changed Future Trunks' color to avoid confusion with kid Trunks, maybe because they were already thinking to expand the story after the EoZ. That way if the two Trunks ever meet again, the audience would be able to tell the difference. Don't know what they'd do with the other Trunks though.