Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

[Koitsukai]

Spoiler:

It would be pretty rad to see Bra have small talk with Pan.

Yeah, I still can't believe GT passed on that. Two young saiyan girls of fairly the same age not having one scene together, forget forming a fighting tag team, they weren't even drawn together in a same scene even though she was good friends with Bra's older brother. Hopefully this movie will fix that.
Their ages should be 4 and 3, right?

[Grimlock]

It would be pretty rad to see Bra have small talk with Pan.

Indeed it would. We got so little in the series that literally any and all interaction with everyone would warm my heart.

Starving for "end of Z" content!

[capsulecorp]

The "low stakes" is actually the aspect that has me anticipating this movie the most. That and Piccolo and Pan.

yeah, i strongly disagree that the "vast majority" of fans are thinking this movie is weird or bad for not taking the Broly approach... or at the very least, i don't think we can know one way or another until it releases. i do think you tend to see a very vocal minority online that are overly concerned with power levels and nonsense and, to be honest, i'm glad they've chosen not to pander to that crowd.

[SupremeKai25]

You know it's funny I still remember when the preview for ep. 69 first aired and people genuinely thought the kids would grow up because Trunks looked older in the preview (due to the angle of the camera or something):



I don't really care about these characters but if the kids growing up will finally make their fans rest, then make Trunks and Goten grow up

[SSJgogeto]

And Marron too, with the nose and everything.

[BWri]

And Marron too, with the nose and everything.

I wonder if growing a nose hurts.

[PurestEvil]

And Marron too, with the nose and everything.

I wonder if growing a nose hurts.

It would be a gradual process, so no. I believe her sense of smell would be weak, though.

[BWri]

And Marron too, with the nose and everything.

I wonder if growing a nose hurts.

It would be a gradual process, so no. I believe her sense of smell would be weak, though.

So you're saying she might stand a chance against Bacterian and his smelliest techniques.

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

The "low stakes" is actually the aspect that has me anticipating this movie the most. That and Piccolo and Pan.

yeah, i strongly disagree that the "vast majority" of fans are thinking this movie is weird or bad for not taking the Broly approach... or at the very least, i don't think we can know one way or another until it releases. i do think you tend to see a very vocal minority online that are overly concerned with power levels and nonsense and, to be honest, i'm glad they've chosen not to pander to that crowd.

Yep, I agree with you. I think people are vastly overestimating the amount of Dragon Ball fans who actually feel this way. There's nothing concrete to indicate that a majority of fans are against a lower-stakes story. I mean, even Battle of Gods, despite introducing a God of Destruction and a new form, felt like just another day hanging with the characters. We knew from the outset Beerus wouldn't end up destroying the Earth. If anything, it was a lower-stakes story disguised as a higher-stakes one, and I don't mean that as a detriment to the film, either.

[ZeroNeonix]

Some of my favorite episodes are filler, particularly the stuff with Gohan in the early Buu arc. Not every episode needs to be filled with screaming and bright lights.

[capsulecorp]

Some of my favorite episodes are filler, particularly the stuff with Gohan in the early Buu arc. Not every episode needs to be filled with screaming and bright lights.

But that stuff isn't filler... unless you're talking specifically about the episodes where they save the dragon from the zoo?

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

Some of my favorite episodes are filler, particularly the stuff with Gohan in the early Buu arc. Not every episode needs to be filled with screaming and bright lights.

But that stuff isn't filler... unless you're talking specifically about the episodes where they save the dragon from the zoo?

There's a lot of Great Saiyaman filler, like the ones you mentioned and the episodes with Angela. I'm with ZeroNeonix in that I love those episodes as well. Not sure if the (non-filler) Gohan and Goten training arc was meant here as well, since it was low-stakes/peactime still, but I just love that whole post-Cell/pre-Boo setup in general.

[MCDaveG]

The "low stakes" is actually the aspect that has me anticipating this movie the most. That and Piccolo and Pan.

yeah, i strongly disagree that the "vast majority" of fans are thinking this movie is weird or bad for not taking the Broly approach... or at the very least, i don't think we can know one way or another until it releases. i do think you tend to see a very vocal minority online that are overly concerned with power levels and nonsense and, to be honest, i'm glad they've chosen not to pander to that crowd.

Yep, I agree with you. I think people are vastly overestimating the amount of Dragon Ball fans who actually feel this way. There's nothing concrete to indicate that a majority of fans are against a lower-stakes story. I mean, even Battle of Gods, despite introducing a God of Destruction and a new form, felt like just another day hanging with the characters. We knew from the outset Beerus wouldn't end up destroying the Earth. If anything, it was a lower-stakes story disguised as a higher-stakes one, and I don't mean that as a detriment to the film, either.

Yesss! In my case, after countless TOEI movies being cool to me as a kid, because there was never much Dragon Ball, I really like world building and enjoyed the slice of life episodes including GT. Main reason why I am not much of a fan of the Super manga. I might like Ressurection F and Broly movies more if there were brand new and interesting foes tho.
For example Buu had a major wow effect on me back then, as he was pretty much virtually indestructible. It’s hard to top the original manga and except for Super 17, Baby and Evil Shenron were daring concepts in comparison to Moro and Granola.

This movie actually looks interesting and I hope there will be lot of new stuff.

[Xeogran]

forget forming a fighting tag team, they weren't even drawn together in a same scene even though she was good friends with Bra's older brother

Nothing really shows Bulla is a fighter besides when she was possessed by Baby, she may have inherited her mother's scientist side more. And they were drawn in the same scene, not many times though, but they were
I recall it was sometime during a dinner at the beginning of Super 17 saga episodes.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

The "low stakes" is actually the aspect that has me anticipating this movie the most. That and Piccolo and Pan.

yeah, i strongly disagree that the "vast majority" of fans are thinking this movie is weird or bad for not taking the Broly approach... or at the very least, i don't think we can know one way or another until it releases. i do think you tend to see a very vocal minority online that are overly concerned with power levels and nonsense and, to be honest, i'm glad they've chosen not to pander to that crowd.

If your talking diehard fans then no they aren’t thinking that but the casual audience who were the majority group that pushed Broly past the 100 million mark at the box office is already checking out on this movie which isn’t a good thing.
The main reason why most people even go to a DB movie is for the crazy cosmic level fights the story is inconsequential cause off the bat you know it’s gonna be terrible to average (at best)


based on the trailer,, terrible villain designs, RR rehash I see this movie @ best making 30-40 million for a worldwide total which is abysmal for a modern DB movie.

[capsulecorp]

the casual audience who were the majority group that pushed Broly past the 100 million mark at the box office is already checking out on this movie which isn’t a good thing.

The problem with declarative statements like this is that, since the film isn't out yet, they have to be based on one of more of the following:

- watching a clickbait-driven youtuber spout baseless or misinformed "content"
- abysmally small sample sizes of a handful of people posting on message boards
- the poster extrapolating their own opinion, assuming its shared with "the majority"

...but, these are just flavors of speculation. We don't know what "the majority" is thinking or planning and, even if we did, people change their minds and lie all the time. We just have to wait and see.

ALL THAT SAID, I was a betting man, I'd bet that this movie will make less money than Broly. That movie did really well! At the end of the day though, I actually don't care how much money a movie makes, I just want to see the ones I'm interested in. What Toei eats don't make me shit.

(oh yeah and I disagree about the modern DB movie stories being terrible to average! I actually think they're great, much better than the manga and obviously the anime)

[ZeroNeonix]

Broly did well in large part due to the name "Broly." They pandered hard, and it paid off. This movie does not seem to be pandering to anyone. It appears to be a regular Dragon Ball story. A story they wanted to tell, rather than one they thought would be popular. They don't even acknowledge the half second footage of Broly in the trailer. Broly probably doesn't play a big role in this, but they easily have drummed up hype by being like, "Are Goku and Broly fighting? What's that about? Hmm..."

[SupremeKai25]

I don't see this movie doing too well compared to the other DB movies. I noticed way less activity here and in the fandom in general compared to when the Broly movie was announced, although that might also be because we haven't gotten any new content aside from the comic in 4 years (while the Broly movie was wisely released shortly after the massive airing of the ToP arc, so when there was still general hype around the franchise).

I still remember when people would make fan animations of Yamoshi and whoever else being the main villain of the Broly movie, there was so much curiosity and interest. I don't find that kind of atmosphere for this movie at all.

Speaking of which, I wonder if the movie being about Broly instead of whatever evil Saiyan from the past made it more or less popular, I'd wager it could have still been pretty popular even if the Saiyan antagonist wasn't the cash machine that is Broly (all that matters is that they are a Saiyan and look cool)

As usual for me the villains and antagonists will play a massive role in judging this movie and I certainly hope that the main villains here are not those... ew... weird shark dudes, because they genuinely look like filler villains

[ObnoxiousNamek]

I don't see this movie doing too well compared to the other DB movies. I noticed way less activity here and in the fandom in general compared to when the Broly movie was announced, although that might also be because we haven't gotten any new content aside from the comic in 4 years (while the Broly movie was wisely released shortly after the massive airing of the ToP arc, so when there was still general hype around the franchise).

I still remember when people would make fan animations of Yamoshi and whoever else being the main villain of the Broly movie, there was so much curiosity and interest. I don't find that kind of atmosphere for this movie at all.

Speaking of which, I wonder if the movie being about Broly instead of whatever evil Saiyan from the past made it more or less popular, I'd wager it could have still been pretty popular even if the Saiyan antagonist wasn't the cash machine that is Broly (all that matters is that they are a Saiyan and look cool)

As usual for me the villains and antagonists will play a massive role in judging this movie and I certainly hope that the main villains here are not those... ew... weird shark dudes, because they genuinely look like filler villains

Filler villains for a Filler movie

Seriously if you showed me those guys and didn’t tell me who designed them I would have guessed Toyotaro did it not Toriyama.

It’s just hard for me to imagine the round table of executives in suits at Shuiesha/Toei/Bandai that have controlling interest in this franchise thinking this is be gonna be a hit.

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

Filler villains for a Filler movie

Seriously if you showed me those guys and didn’t tell me who designed them I would have guessed Toyotaro did it not Toriyama.

It’s just hard for me to imagine the round table of executives in suits at Shuiesha/Toei/Bandai that have controlling interest in this franchise thinking this is be gonna be a hit.

You mean these guys? . They look pretty weird, but to me they look about as Toriyama-esque as Jaco or any of the Galactic Patrol, or even Beerus and Whis.

As for the "filler" talk...honestly I doubt this will feel more like "filler" than RoF, and that had the return of arguably the most beloved villain in the entire franchise. So I don't think the success or popularity of this film is riding on these guys being less "filler-esque." Obviously we'll have to wait and see how it plays out, and obviously everyone has their own criteria for what works or doesn't work for them, but at face value, I prefer this approach to RoF. And while I liked Broly in his movie, I'm glad to have some entirely new characters.