Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[Black_Liger]

Considering that Wiss one-shotted Bills at the end. I'd say the difference between Wiss and Bills is the same as Bills and Oolong

[TheGmGoken]

Considering that Wiss one-shotted Bills at the end. I'd say the difference between Wiss and Bills is the same as Bills and Oolong

Goku can 1 shot Freeza which is a smaller gap than Birsu and Whis

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[B]

I don't see how the series' ending stops making sense. Yeah, Goku is basically God, but he's not immortal, which was the general idea behind having Gohan fight Cell, letting Goten and Trunks have a shot at Buu, and taking Uub under his wing.

[TheGmGoken]

I don't see how the series' ending stops making sense. Yeah, Goku is basically God, but he's not immortal, which was the general idea behind having Gohan fight Cell, letting Goten and Trunks have a shot at Buu, and taking Uub under his wing.

He took OOb for a challenge(aka a fight) not so Oob can be protector of Earth. Vegeta comments on this.

[Cold Skin]

I don't see how the series' ending stops making sense. Yeah, Goku is basically God, but he's not immortal, which was the general idea behind having Gohan fight Cell, letting Goten and Trunks have a shot at Buu, and taking Uub under his wing.

He took OOb for a challenge(aka a fight) not so Oob can be protector of Earth. Vegeta comments on this.

More like a FUTURE challenge, I'd say. This was just a test of his potential.

And Oob has an incredible one: he is the equivalent of the final Boo: being able to put the whole universe in danger and resist Super Saiyan 3 without having been trained in his whole life.
Take the ultimate Boo and imagine him being trained by the one who is now the third strongest person in this universe for about ten years (from childhood to adulthood, excluding GT).

That means pretty much raising the fourth best fighter in this universe, not ruling out the possibility that Oob could surpass Goku's "artificial God" nature itself.
Again: untrained potential able to give trouble to Super Saiyan 3 Goku? Imagine that potential with 10 years of intense training (which no characters went through during the whole story if I remember well) by one of the bests with Godly powers inside him.

During his fight against Oob, Goku stopped the fight as soon as Oob hurt him. This would imply that the simple fact that he was able to damage him even just a bit was enough for Goku to think: "Wow! Okay, I wasn't wrong about him, he's truly out of the ordinary and unlike all other fighters so far, I could make him someone exceptionnal!". If Goku didn't expect to even get hit/hurt/damaged during the fight, and took it as the proof an exceptionnal potential, it could be that Goku is beyond pretty much any other beings and considered himself untouchable by that point, precisely because he has the Super Saiyan God power inside him and is supposed to be untouchable by anyone but Gods.

[TheGmGoken]

I don't see how the series' ending stops making sense. Yeah, Goku is basically God, but he's not immortal, which was the general idea behind having Gohan fight Cell, letting Goten and Trunks have a shot at Buu, and taking Uub under his wing.

He took OOb for a challenge(aka a fight) not so Oob can be protector of Earth. Vegeta comments on this.

More like a FUTURE challenge, I'd say. This was just a test of his potential.

And Oob has an incredible one: he is the equivalent of the final Boo: being able to put the whole universe in danger and resist Super Saiyan 3 without having been trained in his whole life.
Take the ultimate Boo and imagine him being trained by the one who is now the third strongest person in this universe for about ten years (from childhood to adulthood, excluding GT).

That means pretty much raising the fourth best fighter in this universe, not ruling out the possibility that Oob could surpass Goku's "artificial God" nature itself.
Again: untrained potential able to give trouble to Super Saiyan 3 Goku? Imagine that potential with 10 years of intense training (which no characters went through during the whole story if I remember well) by one of the bests with Godly powers inside him.

Not to sound like a jackass(I don't mean to) but you honestly think they would allow Oob to surpass Goku? Just asking. I mean I somewhat agree with you. But Oob surpassing Goku is something I don't think Toriyama or Toei would allow

[Cold Skin]

Not to sound like a jackass(I don't mean to) but you honestly think they would allow Oob to surpass Goku? Just asking. I mean I somewhat agree with you. But Oob surpassing Goku is something I don't think Toriyama or Toei would allow

Toei would certainly not.
Toriyama would, just like he did with this movie. It's actually his main objective to put Goku out of his pedestal frequently.
Ending his story with Goku actually trying to train someone who could take him out of the N°1 spot goes with that spirit, I think.

That's just my opinion though, I think Dragon Ball by Toriyama is all about Goku being surpassed and sometimes/often looking for someone who can actually surpass him, and often succeeding in doing so, if only for a certain period.

[ionutbigiu1]

hello my friends i want to ask you something. is there something like deleted scenes on the limited edition of the Dragon ball battle of gods Blu ray version?thank you a lot for patience.

[ZombieVito]

Shouldn't Goku be a 7? He fought very closely to Bills at 70%

[Kaboom]

Nah, a 6 to Beerus' 10 works best. Goku put up a good fight against 70% of Beers' power, but was still at somewhat of a disadvantage and couldn't win. It reminds me a lot of his fight with Cell.

[KentalSSJ6]

Shouldn't Goku be a 7? He fought very closely to Bills at 70%

Id be inclined to agree, but Toriyama put him at a 6 compared to Bills's 10. Goku may have been using 80% but Bills was using 70% and the gap between them is already big enough from the get go as we see earlier in the film.

[ZombieVito]

I just realized he used [Super Saiyan] to that. The funny part is that SSJ Goku fought better than a stronger SSJ God Goku.

[dbzfan7]

I just realized he used [Super Saiyan] to that. The funny part is that SSJ Goku fought better than a stronger SSJ God Goku.

That's one of the reasons I was let down by SSJ God.

[KentalSSJ6]

I just realized he used [Super Saiyan] to that. The funny part is that SSJ Goku fought better than a stronger SSJ God Goku.

That's one of the reasons I was let down by SSJ God.

Well we recently found out Goku essentially made SSJG's power a permanent edition to his base form. He doesn't need to transform into SSJG to gain its power, he constantly has it now which explains him keeping up with Bills as a SSJ1. Think of it along the lines of his X33 Zenkai he got on Namek.

[dbzfan7]

I just realized he used [Super Saiyan] to that. The funny part is that SSJ Goku fought better than a stronger SSJ God Goku.

That's one of the reasons I was let down by SSJ God.

Well we recently found out Goku essentially made SSJG's power a permanent edition to his base form. He doesn't need to transform into SSJG to gain its power, he constantly has it now which explains him keeping up with Bills as a SSJ1. Think of it along the lines of his X33 Zenkai he got on Namek.

No I mean the fight let me down. It's sad when SSJ puts up a better fight than the form that is constantly mentioned in the movie and hyped up like crazy.

[KentalSSJ6]

Still a fantastically animated fight with a great insert song.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Shouldn't Goku be a 7? He fought very closely to Bills at 70%

He was weaker than 70% Beers.

I just realized he used [Super Saiyan] to that. The funny part is that SSJ Goku fought better than a stronger SSJ God Goku.

He was fighting far more offensively when he turned Super Saiyan, that's all. He still didn't manage to do shit to Beers.

[TheGmGoken]

Still a fantastically animated fight with a great insert song.

Doesn't change the fact the fight was one of the worst MAJOR fights in DB's history.

Nah, a 6 to Beerus' 10 works best. Goku put up a good fight against 70% of Beers' power, but was still at somewhat of a disadvantage and couldn't win. It reminds me a lot of his fight with Cell.

Birsu vs SSG Goku was NOTHING like the fight with Cell. The fight with Cell is what the Birsu vs SSG Goku fight should have been. Goku is losing but still a great fight. Instead we got Birsu kicking SSG Goku ass until Goku turns SSJ. How did that remind you of Goku vs Cell? I'm curious

[dbzfan7]

Still a fantastically animated fight with a great insert song.

The SSJ fight yes. the SSJG fight no.

It reminds me a lot of his fight with Cell.

Really? The fight with Cell was actually a lot more equal. Originally I couldn't tell who was going to win. I had subtle hints that showed Cell had the advantage, but it was a close fight (until the revelation). SSJG Goku vs Birus wasn't close at all. You could tell Birus had complete control for the most part. I hoped for SSJG Goku vs Birus to live up to Goku vs Cell. Instead I only believe Base Goku/SSJ Goku vs Birus was the only good part of the fight

[KentalSSJ6]

Still a fantastically animated fight with a great insert song.

Doesn't change the fact the fight was one of the worst MAJOR fights in DB's history.

Nah, a 6 to Beerus' 10 works best. Goku put up a good fight against 70% of Beers' power, but was still at somewhat of a disadvantage and couldn't win. It reminds me a lot of his fight with Cell.

Birsu vs SSG Goku was NOTHING like the fight with Cell. The fight with Cell is what the Birsu vs SSG Goku fight should have been. Goku is losing but still a great fight. Instead we got Birsu kicking SSG Goku ass until Goku turns SSJ. How did that remind you of Goku vs Cell? I'm curious

No offense Goken, but we get it. You and Rocketman despise Battle of Gods. You have made that very clear since the majority of us saw the film.