"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:27 am

Goku for next God of Destruction! give me a wooo.
Manga made Goku OP as hell with that hakai move. Our boi finally has a chance against immortal beings.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:28 am

Mazingerdestro wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Hakai is OP, It won't be easy writing him in the future, addressing the question why he didn't use hakai in future fights is going to be though
They can pull a rasen shuriken "spam without training will ruin your future so don't......yet"
Well goku is still standing after that, and if it's one thing he is good at, that's training, he will get it down in no time flat..
At most this excuse will work for an arc or two..
Toyo did something very ballsy here
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Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:28 am

Mazingerdestro wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Hakai is OP, It won't be easy writing him in the future, addressing the question why he didn't use hakai in future fights is going to be though
They can pull a rasen shuriken "spam without training will ruin your future so don't......yet"
The way it's written here, it seems like Goku can't use ki blasts while keeping Blue's energy inside himself and when he releases it into an energy blast, it's something like Hakai.

That alone pretty much makes it a last ditch effort kind of attack and not something he can spam.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:28 am

ekrolo2 wrote:You should probably stop watching Dragon Ball since characters constantly just see a technique then can do it without issue.
Goku's never actually seen the Hakai technique in the manga. It's still not a huge deal, since it doesn't seem like a terribly complex technique, just thought I'd mention it.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:29 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:You should probably stop watching Dragon Ball since characters constantly just see a technique then can do it without issue.
Goku's never actually seen the Hakai technique in the manga. It's still not a huge deal, since it doesn't seem like a terribly complex technique, just thought I'd mention it.
Maybe they seen it off page, I mean Vegeta knew what it was.
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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:You should probably stop watching Dragon Ball since characters constantly just see a technique then can do it without issue.
Goku's never actually seen the Hakai technique in the manga. It's still not a huge deal, since it doesn't seem like a terribly complex technique, just thought I'd mention it.
Yeah, some one on Twitter pointed that out :P

But you're right, from what we've read so far, Goku can't fire off energy blasts without letting Blue's power leak out so I guess you could say this essentially a lethal kiai.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:32 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Hakai is OP, It won't be easy writing him in the future, addressing the question why he didn't use hakai in future fights is going to be though
They can pull a rasen shuriken "spam without training will ruin your future so don't......yet"
The way it's written here, it seems like Goku can't use ki blasts while keeping Blue's energy inside himself and when he releases it into an energy blast, it's something like Hakai.

That alone pretty much makes it a last ditch effort kind of attack and not something he can spam.
If the natural progression of blue is keeping the energy inside, then that's what Goku's gonna do, which in turn will make Goku's ki blasts a barrage of hakais..
It's not going to be a last ditch effort if that's how the form works
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:32 am

SansrivaaL wrote:Maybe they seen it off page, I mean Vegeta knew what it was.
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They wouldn't have had a chance to see it. That's a pretty weird mistake, perhaps Toyotaro has forgotten he didn't have Goku tag along with Beerus when he confronted Zamasu. I get what Toyotaro's going for though, now that he's properly maintaining God Ki inside of him, his attacks resemble that of an actual god.
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Post by Kanassa » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:33 am

Ki Breaker wrote:Hakai is OP, It won't be easy writing him in the future, addressing the question why he didn't use hakai in future fights is going to be though
Well, Hakai is a killing move and Goku tends to not purposely kill his foes as that would spoil the fun of the fight. Plus next arc has a no killing rule
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Mazingerdestro » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:33 am

Well Hakai did fail. So in the end, he needs more training. Perfect blue isn't enough

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:33 am

Welp. I'm completely over the Manga now, still not over and just all over the place guess I'll support Toyo up until Vol 2.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:34 am

I gotta say, I really like this use of Hakai. Making one of the most devastating techniques yet introduced in the series that literally turns you into ash a invisible, force push/kiai type attack feels very Toriyama to me.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:34 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote: They wouldn't have had a chance to see it. That's a pretty weird mistake, perhaps Toyotaro has forgotten he didn't have Goku tag along with Beerus when he confronted Zamasu.
That or maybe Beerus taught it to them back when they were training, I mean even if Toyo did mistake the anime for the manga Vegeta wasnt there as well but he knows Hakai was Beerus' move. Weird but at least he called it out.

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Post by Kanassa » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:35 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:[spoiler]Maybe they seen it off page, I mean Vegeta knew what it was.
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They wouldn't have had a chance to see it. That's a pretty weird mistake, perhaps Toyotaro has forgotten he didn't have Goku tag along with Beerus when he confronted Zamasu.
They describe it as Gok unleashing all of blue's power, so maybe the technique is simply unleashing God Ki? *Shrug*

Also, Zamasu is starting to look like 'Teen' Gohan in some of these shots
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Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:36 am

Kanassa wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Hakai is OP, It won't be easy writing him in the future, addressing the question why he didn't use hakai in future fights is going to be though
Well, Hakai is a killing move and Goku tends to not purposely kill his foes as that would spoil the fun of the fight. Plus next arc has a no killing rule
Yeah, but he has a guaranteed killing move now and a guaranteed sealing move too..
There shouldn't be goku is struggling because his opponent in being annoying anymore, opponent tries to go too far? Hakai to his face..

Alright screwattack, how about we do a managa goku vs Superman death battle now huh
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Post by Mazingerdestro » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:37 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Hakai is OP, It won't be easy writing him in the future, addressing the question why he didn't use hakai in future fights is going to be though
Well, Hakai is a killing move and Goku tends to not purposely kill his foes as that would spoil the fun of the fight. Plus next arc has a no killing rule
Yeah, but he has a guaranteed killing move now and a guaranteed sealing move too..
There shouldn't be goku is struggling because his opponent in being annoying anymore, opponent tries to go too far? Hakai to his face..

Alright screwattack, how about we do a managa goku vs Superman death battle now huh
How is the move guaranteed? It failed

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Post by YonedgeHP » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:38 am

Vegeta in Toyotaro's manga is somewhat like a seer, first he knows about Beerus destroying Zamas, and now he knows about his technique.
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Post by Grimlock » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:38 am

Please... Somebody tell me if Toyotaro finally ended this freaking saga and that the next chapter will start the new content advertised last year!

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Post by Mazingerdestro » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:38 am

Grimlock wrote:Please... Somebody tell me if Toyotaro finally ended this freaking saga and that the next chapter will start the new content advertised last year!
50 more chapters!!!!

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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:39 am

Mazingerdestro wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Kanassa wrote: Well, Hakai is a killing move and Goku tends to not purposely kill his foes as that would spoil the fun of the fight. Plus next arc has a no killing rule
Yeah, but he has a guaranteed killing move now and a guaranteed sealing move too..
There shouldn't be goku is struggling because his opponent in being annoying anymore, opponent tries to go too far? Hakai to his face..

Alright screwattack, how about we do a managa goku vs Superman death battle now huh
How is the move guaranteed? It failed
It failed because Zamasu used his weird portal move to grab Mai and shove her up on Goku so Goku stopped.

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