derpgoku wrote:We got the heros ssj cards leak on feb 18 ,while we usualy get ths manga chapter leak on 16(i think).
Nope. SSJ Vegeta wasn't revealed at that point. I specifically remember because I made this comment on Febuary 18th:
SaiyaSith wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:
SaiyaSith wrote:Confirmation that Vegeta goes normal SSJ during the tourney?
People seem to be very much struggling with the fact that V-Jump is a general-purpose magazine promoting all sorts of different things. It's not Dragon Ball Super-centric. That's just one of the many things it covers.
Just because something's shown one way in Dragon Ball Heroes / Zenkai Battle / Discross / ICCarddass / etc. doesn't necessarily mean it will or has to show up that way in Dragon Ball Super.
I know, I was partially kidding. But I'd say there's a good chance since we just saw normal SSJ Goku in the manga and now they're advertising him and Vegeta in DBH.
I hope Mira is not in Super. I rather see more original content. Fans will bitch about on how Super is using video game characters like Mira and Towa .
I don't want Mira and Towa in Super simply because it already feels like "we've already done that twice; first via DBO and then via Xenoverse". It's the same reason I'm wary about them bringing Future Trunks back even though I like Future Trunks. He's already returned multiple times by way of so many videogames. @_@
Unless the rest of the cast gets to time-travel with him (like in "Atsumare! Gokû World!" where it's revealed Gokû makes for a horrible time-traveller) that could be fun.
But I want to go to Planet Salad/Sadla/Sadal so much more than I could possibly currently care about Future Trunks and/or Mira and Towa that they'll just feel like filler to me while I'm waiting for actual brand new plot to start.
I hope we are not going videogames character route. I think there are so many other things they can do or explore with new material that we dont need video game characters. I would not mind future trunks but he better have a good reason to be involved.
I honestly don't see Toriyama using video game characters and plot to write his own. That's probably something they would do only after/if he stops writing.
Araki wrote:I honestly don't see Toriyama using video game characters and plot to write his own. That's probably something they would do only after/if he stops writing.
Well, Towa and Mira are his characters and his designs, provided as assets for a plot that he oversaw originally for Dragonball Online. The fact that Xenoverse repurposed them recently doesn't make them any less his own creations to utilise as he pleases.
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Araki wrote:I honestly don't see Toriyama using video game characters and plot to write his own. That's probably something they would do only after/if he stops writing.
They are his characters. They're really cool characters too and we never got to see what happened to them after DBO shut down. Toriyama had involvement in DBO, not Xenoverse.
I don't know if this will influence a decision at all, but I would love it if because of the response they decided to make the Super manga go weekly or at least bi weekly.
Araki wrote:I honestly don't see Toriyama using video game characters and plot to write his own. That's probably something they would do only after/if he stops writing.
Well, Towa and Mira are his characters and his designs, provided as assets for a plot that he oversaw originally for Dragonball Online. The fact that Xenoverse repurposed them recently doesn't make them any less his own creations to utilise as he pleases.
I know he designed them, but we don't know the extent of Toriyama's involvement with that game - and you said it yourself, he oversaw it, but it wasn't really his plot. So that wouldn't be much different from Toriyama recycling any other character he came up with designs for DB animation/games, really.
Araki wrote:
I know he designed them, but we don't know the extent of Toriyama's involvement with that game - and you said it yourself, he oversaw it, but it wasn't really his plot. So that wouldn't be much different from Toriyama recycling any other character he came up with designs for DB animation/games, really.
I wouldn't care too much even if Toriyama didn't write their story, they could make one of the best arcs ever. Future Trunks and his time machine open up so many possibilities it's insane.
Araki wrote:I honestly don't see Toriyama using video game characters and plot to write his own. That's probably something they would do only after/if he stops writing.
Well, Towa and Mira are his characters and his designs, provided as assets for a plot that he oversaw originally for Dragonball Online. The fact that Xenoverse repurposed them recently doesn't make them any less his own creations to utilise as he pleases.
I know he designed them, but we don't know the extent of Toriyama's involvement with that game - and you said it yourself, he oversaw it, but it wasn't really his plot. So that wouldn't be much different from Toriyama recycling any other character he came up with designs for DB animation/games, really.
I'm under the impression that the overall direction of the game was of his design.
Spoiler:
The plot being that the time-breakers are causing havock, and time patrol Trunks is tasked at setting things right.
Xenoverse took a different spin on it - and it remains to be seen if certain elements, such as Demigra, would be included in any Super adaptation going forward. I'm not entirely convinced that Demigra is a Toriyama character or design - I think that someone who worked on the game was misquoted as implying as much during a French-language interview. As far as I understand it, Toriyama provided a design for the Supreme Kai of Time, but the game designers changed it quite a lot to what we see in the final game. It's not even clear whether that was an asset from the old Dragonball Online that was never used, or whether Toriyama did something fresh for them - which I'm of a mind to be cautious about.
Honestly, I think if Toriyama had had extra involvement in Xenoverse, they would have been singing it from the rooftops in promotion of the game. The fact that they didn't makes me a little incredulous on the matter.
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When I read the comments from Toyotaro/Toriyama about the "future" and "white haired" villain, I made me think of Time Patrol Trunks, Towa and Mira. I was glad to find others have thought the same, even if it does seem blatantly obvious. Their transition from DBO-exclusives to the wider franchise has gathered momentum, what with "recent" appearances in Xenoverse, Extreme Butoden and Heroes . I know the latter particularly mines all the nooks of the series for characters to use but the timing, just as they could be appearing in Super, would be a good tie-in.
Then there's the Fu/Hit theory - I thought it was a stretch but I'm starting to find something in it. The skin colour and his eyes in general and then also the Time Breaker Churai form DBO, who has the same two-tone face as Hit really make me think there could be something in it. Also his time-skipping technique too. There are definitely threads to work with, even if they are vague.
Also I'm going for Future Trunks to be the one to show up in the ring. Maybe he's picked up on Hit's time-skipping and has come to investigate. Maybe the ripples have alerted Towa and Mira, or maybe even freed Demigra if we're going down that route. There was the comment from Toriyama about hopefully being ok for kids to follow - the time travelling aspect could be the problem he's alluding too and Toki Toki this other Universe, unless that's 6.
I don't know if this will influence a decision at all, but I would love it if because of the response they decided to make the Super manga go weekly or at least bi weekly.
I don't think it's gonna happen, as much as I would love it to. The manga's purpose is to ultimately be a promotion for the anime.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I don't know if this will influence a decision at all, but I would love it if because of the response they decided to make the Super manga go weekly or at least bi weekly.
I don't think it's gonna happen, as much as I would love it to. The manga's purpose is to ultimately be a promotion for the anime.
I know, but hopefully since it is successful as well I hope that they might discuss the possibility of having chapters come out more often. That's more money for Shueisha.
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