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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:12 pm

On the subject of cursing in DBZKai, words like "shit", "bastard", "bitch" or even "f**k" have little place in a children's show and should rarely be used.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:17 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:On the subject of cursing in DBZKai, words like "shit", "bastard", "bitch" or even "f**k" have little place in a children's show and should rarely be used.
Why, because it will make kids into drunken, dead-beat, murdering psychopaths if they hear those words?
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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:23 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:On the subject of cursing in DBZKai, words like "shit", "bastard", "bitch" or even "f**k" have little place in a children's show and should rarely be used.
Why, because it will make kids into drunken, dead-beat, murdering psychopaths if they hear those words?
No, that's why there's rap music. :P


Seriously, words like "crap", "damn" and "hell" are alright, but the words I mentioned before are just going too far.

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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by ohaimynameiserik » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:31 pm

Eh, I bet "shit" will be the most offensive word we hear.

Doubt we'll get a "fuck" out of anybody.

And to be honest, "shit" is not that bad whatsoever.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:32 pm

ohaimynameiserik wrote:Eh, I bet "shit" will be the most offensive word we hear.

Doubt we'll get a "fuck" out of anybody.

And to be honest, "shit" is not that bad whatsoever.
I think "shit" will be said, just not a lot.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:44 pm

ohaimynameiserik wrote:Doubt we'll get a "fuck" out of anybody.
Has FUNimation ever used that word in any of their dubs?
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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:48 pm

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ohaimynameiserik wrote:Doubt we'll get a "fuck" out of anybody.
Has FUNimation ever used that word in any of their dubs?
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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:57 pm

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ohaimynameiserik wrote:Doubt we'll get a "fuck" out of anybody.
Has FUNimation ever used that word in any of their dubs?
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I'm sorry. I've never seen that show before! :lol:

It does seem to be a word they don't use often in many dubs (that I've seen), especially shonen anime dubs. I'm certain it won't be used in Kai.
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:04 am

They should just have one character you wouldn't expect to ever swear to swear a blue streak.

Like Chaozu.
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Post by ohaimynameiserik » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:20 am

penguintruth wrote:They should just have one character you wouldn't expect to ever swear to swear a blue streak.

Like Chaozu.
That shot of him and Nappa falling down towards the spiky rock just before he explodes,

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:46 am

I gotta admit, I'm excited as hell for this dub...in some ways I think those hoping for a loyal redub of DBZ got their wish with Kai. Granted, a full redub of Z would have been better, but I'll take "short and sweet" over "long and has-it's-moments-but-they're-almost-always-crushed-by-bad-rewrites." For fans of the Japanese version, it's pretty much Z repackaged. For fans of the English version, especially those wanting a loyal re-dub, though...I dunno. I think it's funny how fate works out sometimes. Sometimes I think fate conspired to make Kai just to make us dub fans happy.
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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Blue » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:00 am

I must have missed the point in time where "shit" and "bastard" made it onto "the most offensive words" list. Then again I've been hearing people say "hell" and "crap" are swear words so I guess my mind has been corrupted by the evil. The only common swear words I feel shouldn't be included are bitch and fuck. So long as they avoid Funi's One Piece frequency of cursing I'm fine.

How on Earth do you guys manage to watch the show subbed?
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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Xyex » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:09 am

ohaimynameiserik wrote:To all of you who say people in the real world don't really cuss that much, if at all,
you are lying.
To all of you who say people in the real world really do cuss often, even a lot, you are lying.

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ohaimynameiserik wrote:Doubt we'll get a "fuck" out of anybody.
Has FUNimation ever used that word in any of their dubs?
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Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Seriously, words like "crap", "damn" and "hell" are alright, but the words I mentioned before are just going too far.
"Crap" isn't even a swear, it's pseudo-swear/replacement word.
Blue wrote:I must have missed the point in time where "shit" and "bastard" made it onto "the most offensive words" list. Then again I've been hearing people say "hell" and "crap" are swear words so I guess my mind has been corrupted by the evil. The only common swear words I feel shouldn't be included are bitch and fuck. So long as they avoid Funi's One Piece frequency of cursing I'm fine.
"Hell" has always been a swear word and "bastard" has always been on the 'high offender' list. I don't get why you think "bitch" should be left out but don't think the same for "bastard". They're effectively the same word, just genderized.
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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Rocketman » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:23 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:On the subject of cursing in DBZKai, words like "shit", "bastard", "bitch" or even "f**k" have little place in a children's show and should rarely be used.
Child abuse - yes.
Murder - yes.
Genocide - yes.
"Fuck" - no.


...?

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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Blue » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:30 am

Xyex wrote:
Blue wrote:I must have missed the point in time where "shit" and "bastard" made it onto "the most offensive words" list. Then again I've been hearing people say "hell" and "crap" are swear words so I guess my mind has been corrupted by the evil. The only common swear words I feel shouldn't be included are bitch and fuck. So long as they avoid Funi's One Piece frequency of cursing I'm fine.
"Hell" has always been a swear word and "bastard" has always been on the 'high offender' list. I don't get why you think "bitch" should be left out but don't think the same for "bastard". They're effectively the same word, just genderized.
I think we already established you and I have a very different opinion as to what is swearing. Maybe in your world those are on the "high offender" list, unfortunately I don't live there and neither do many others I know from the big ol' interwebs. But whatever, keep on keepin' on.

Just out of curiosity's sake do you watch the subbed version of DBZ? I thought I remember you saying you were a sub fan but wouldn't that be hard if you're morally offended by a good deal of the translated dialogue? I'm not trying to sound like a dick I'm honestly just curious.
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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:51 am

Rocketman wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:On the subject of cursing in DBZKai, words like "shit", "bastard", "bitch" or even "f**k" have little place in a children's show and should rarely be used.
Child abuse - yes.
Murder - yes.
Genocide - yes.
"Fuck" - no.


...?
I get where you're coming from but it would just be out of place for Vegeta to say "Fuck You" to Freeza, Japanese version or dub.

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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Rocketman » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:56 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I get where you're coming from but it would just be out of place for Vegeta to say "Fuck You" to Freeza, Japanese version or dub.
...why?

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:00 am

Rocketman wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I get where you're coming from but it would just be out of place for Vegeta to say "Fuck You" to Freeza, Japanese version or dub.
...why?
Because harsh swearing has no place in a children's cartoon.

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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Rocketman » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:02 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I get where you're coming from but it would just be out of place for Vegeta to say "Fuck You" to Freeza, Japanese version or dub.
...why?
Because harsh swearing has no place in a children's cartoon.
And the other things I mentioned do?

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Re: Dragonball Kai dub?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:07 am

Rocketman wrote:
And the other things I mentioned do?
Swearing is different to violence and besides, the things that happen in DBZ aren't that graphic anyway and even less so thanks to Kai.

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