"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Basako » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:10 pm

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batistabus wrote:Ah, so from the looks of it, when Vegeta blasts the 2 Zamasus, they are left in multiple pieces. I presume that each of these pieces is able to regenerate into an individual, full-powered Zamasu. Thanks, Super Dragon Balls!

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Looks like Majin Buu's regeneration after Majin Vegeta's explosion. :lol:
Hum, not really. In the case of Boo, the pieces became little versions of him and they had to get together to be full size again.

This time each piece becomes a full size merged Zamasu.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:27 pm

Basako wrote: Hum, not really. In the case of Boo, the pieces became little versions of him and they had to get together to be full size again.
This time each piece becomes a full size merged Zamasu.
I can give you that one, but I don't like how Toyotaro is showing his immortality because he keeps reminding me of Cell/Buu:

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Post by LowRyder2005 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:33 pm

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The gr wrote:Image
This looks so cool, Zamasu is so cool
I liked the skinnier Zamadu from the anime, this guy is just such a brute, it's hard to distinguish him from other villains, he isn't graceful or godly at all.

But I know DB fans have a muscle fetish
Well, in their defense, the fused Zamas seen in the manga does look like an actual mixture of Goku and Zamas, instead of what was basically plain Zamas with a white Super Saiyan wig. I feel as if this may render somewhat more justice to the Fusion mechanic.
Again... What if he will master it... And do it casually like Beerus?
And what if he masters a a completely invincible technique? I mean, we could go anywhere with hypotheticals here.
I wouldn't have liked this latest surprise, as well, but if it's like others have been saying and Goku needed the fully powered Blue (which posed a great risk for his body) and could only use it once before depleting his energy completely, it should be theoretically be fine - as long as the technique is counterable/avoidable/dodgeable in some shape or form, and it seems like it already fails in some departments.

After these two chapters, however, I do feel like Toyotaro should learn to implement more foreshadowing from one plot point to another. I hope he'll find a way to refine the "build up" aspect of his storytelling, because everything else is quite enjoyable.
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Post by sintzu » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:35 pm

Why couldn't the anime be this good ? if they had time to waste on nearly 30 episodes of filler then why couldn't they use some of those episodes to extend this arc out ? There's been so much going on here that the anime just rushed through.
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Post by HeroR » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:43 pm

sintzu wrote:Why couldn't the anime be this good ? if they had time to waste on nearly 30 episodes of filler then why couldn't they use some of those episodes to extend this arc out ? There's been so much going on here that the anime just rushed through.
I personally wouldn't call this good. The arc in the anime didn't need all this padding and I wished Toyo put this amount of time into something else in this arc and not the Merged Zamasu fight.
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Post by Kanassa » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:43 pm

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ALso, he took Salza's Blade
I'm having a bad memory, I don't remember mz using a blade in the anime/Manga or your referring to normal zamas, Then your right[/quote]
Merged Zamasu had a 'My sword dis bigger than yours!' match with Vegetto and Trunks
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Basako » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:50 pm

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Basako wrote: Hum, not really. In the case of Boo, the pieces became little versions of him and they had to get together to be full size again.
This time each piece becomes a full size merged Zamasu.
I can give you that one, but I don't like how Toyotaro is showing his immortality because he keeps reminding me of Cell/Buu:

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His immortality is a big part of the plot, why wouldn't he show it. Cell and Boo had their own regeneration, as well as Piccolo, so what.

Freeza used his Kiezan version too, so what? Most of the blasts are variations of the Kamehameha. Just they put their hands in different poses, say other words and change the colour.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:50 pm

So several chunks of chopped up Merged Zamasu end up turning into clones? Hmm. That's a bit too Majin Boo for my liking. I mean, I know Merged Zamasu can regenerate but this technique seem very... unorthodox. Much like how Merged Zamasu suddenly had the ability to attack via portals like Janemba did.

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Post by Miracles » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:51 pm

Goku using Hakai is no problem. All Toriyama has to say is that he seen it training with Beerus and Whis. It looks like a good chapter.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:56 pm

Basako wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:
Basako wrote: Hum, not really. In the case of Boo, the pieces became little versions of him and they had to get together to be full size again.
This time each piece becomes a full size merged Zamasu.
I can give you that one, but I don't like how Toyotaro is showing his immortality because he keeps reminding me of Cell/Buu:

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His immortality is a big part of the plot, why wouldn't he show it. Cell and Boo had their own regeneration, as well as Piccolo, so what.
Toyotaro can still show his immortality and not make it feel like he's Cell/Buu. Take the anime version or even Garlic Jr. for example. He's immortal and he never reminded me of those two.
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Post by Basako » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:59 pm

sintzu wrote:Why couldn't the anime be this good ? if they had time to waste on nearly 30 episodes of filler then why couldn't they use some of those episodes to extend this arc out ? There's been so much going on here that the anime just rushed through.
Totally agree, this is the good version of the story, not the anime. With all this material they could have done so much good episodes. A real pity, I do want the anime to be good.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:00 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Much like how Merged Zamasu suddenly had the ability to attack via portals like Janemba did.
Zamasu could already perform basic teleportation techniques pre-fusion, the portal is only a step further than that. I don't think this version of regeneration is too far of a stretch from what we've already seen, either.
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Post by Boo Machine » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:02 pm

I just realized this chapters content is entirely still Everyone vs Merged Zamasu. I kind of assumed it would have ended and they'd summon Zeno by now. But the fight is still going. I kind of have doubts the next chapter will end next chapter either. This arc is longer than I thought.

I don't particularly mind, but the idea that some folks have been aching for this arc to end for a while now and it's still not is kinda funny.
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Post by OLKv3 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:04 pm

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Lord Beerus wrote:Much like how Merged Zamasu suddenly had the ability to attack via portals like Janemba did.
Zamasu could already perform basic teleportation techniques pre-fusion, the portal is only a step further than that. I don't think this version of regeneration is too far of a stretch from what we've already seen, either.
It doesn't seem to be an ability he actually created, rather something happening because of the immortality he has. The clones have no endurance anymore, but they keep appearing
It's just like the endless faces in the anime
Boo Machine wrote:I just realized this chapters content is entirely still Everyone vs Merged Zamasu. I kind of assumed it would have ended and they'd summon Zeno by now. But the fight is still going. I kind of have doubts the next chapter will end next chapter either. This arc is longer than I thought.

I don't particularly mind, but the idea that some folks have been aching for this arc to end for a while now and it's still not is kinda funny.
How do you figure that? They're at the same point as the anime was when Zeno appeared. Instead of endless Zamasu faces, it's endless Zamasu bodies.
This arc is definitely ending next chapter.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:05 pm

Boo Machine wrote:I just realized this chapters content is entirely still Everyone vs Merged Zamasu. I kind of assumed it would have ended and they'd summon Zeno by now. But the fight is still going. I kind of have doubts the next chapter will end next chapter either. This arc is longer than I thought.

I don't particularly mind, but the idea that some folks have been aching for this arc to end for a while now and it's still not is kinda funny.
This chapter had Zamasu's fusion become unquellable, that's essentially the equivalent of cloud Zamasu. I'm positive it'll end next month.
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Post by Tsufuru » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:06 pm

sintzu wrote:Why couldn't the anime be this good ? if they had time to waste on nearly 30 episodes of filler then why couldn't they use some of those episodes to extend this arc out ? There's been so much going on here that the anime just rushed through.
pls...just no ,ok?

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Post by Basako » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:08 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Basako wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote: I can give you that one, but I don't like how Toyotaro is showing his immortality because he keeps reminding me of Cell/Buu:

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His immortality is a big part of the plot, why wouldn't he show it. Cell and Boo had their own regeneration, as well as Piccolo, so what.
Toyotaro can still show his immortality and not make it feel like he's Cell/Buu. Take the anime version or even Garlic Jr. for example. He's immortal and he never reminded me of those two.
You mean because he has the same wounds? You make so big deal of that and it's not even a bad thing. You people speak like those things had patents. Goku was so close to Merged Zamasu so he made a hole in MZ's chest. Can't nobody receive a wound like that anymore? MZ and Cell is very similar, but what's the problem? Vegetto launched his attack from the building and it made into one side of Zamasu. I don't remember how Cell got his, but it was different, just the wound is the same.

You want an exact copy of a situation, take Piccolo sacrificing himself for Gohan in the exact same way and exact same pose.
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Post by Boo Machine » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:08 pm

You guys could be right. The chapter could very well end next month. I'm just thinking about the possibility of the Zamasu army here fighting our hereos being stretched out for most of the chapter until they decide to summon Zeno.
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Post by BlueBasilisk » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:13 pm

Every time a new chapter comes out, it's like someone kicked a nest of angry hornets and threw it into the middle of the fandom. I wish this kinda thing didn't happen every month. :/

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Post by The gr » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:16 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:Every time a new chapter comes out, it's like someone kicked a nest of angry hornets and threw it into the middle of the fandom. I wish this kinda thing didn't happen every month. :/
The reaction of this chapter is tame compared to last month
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