Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by GoldLiger » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:05 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:-Blog 35 Days Left-

As eyewitnesses to history, everyone should enjoy to their heart’s content this first page of the Dragon Ball legend that starts here, so that it will continue on after Revival of “F” with another film next year, and another the year after that, on and on.

That's the point!
A movie each year is not a good idea, because it could be bad quality wise. But a new one each 2 years is.
As long Toriyama is motivated and this sells, they have my approval.
A movie per year? Oh boy, we really should expect a New 52 type of retcon soon.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:13 pm

GoldLiger wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:-Blog 35 Days Left-

As eyewitnesses to history, everyone should enjoy to their heart’s content this first page of the Dragon Ball legend that starts here, so that it will continue on after Revival of “F” with another film next year, and another the year after that, on and on.

That's the point!
A movie each year is not a good idea, because it could be bad quality wise. But a new one each 2 years is.
As long Toriyama is motivated and this sells, they have my approval.
A movie per year? Oh boy, we really should expect a New 52 type of retcon soon.
What brought you to that conclusion?

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Post by Big Momma » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:14 pm

Like I said before, you guys are digging way too much into that sentence. Sure, if the movie does really well and is a success we'll probably get more films. But his statement isn't meant to be a confirmation of anything. It's just a general "Go support the movie!" statement that gets thrown around beforehand.
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Post by SSJGFrieza » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:25 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:When Toriyama makes something as atrocious as the Buu Saga, then DB is at least creatively in trouble. For now (minus well... Minus) its been going pretty strong with BoG on the movie side and XV & DBO on the game one.
Buu was the closest thing to classic Dragonball that DBZ ever got until BoG.

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This is the kind of shenanigans I missed from Dragonball, hence why I love Battle of Gods so much.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by GoldLiger » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:31 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:-Blog 35 Days Left-

As eyewitnesses to history, everyone should enjoy to their heart’s content this first page of the Dragon Ball legend that starts here, so that it will continue on after Revival of “F” with another film next year, and another the year after that, on and on.

That's the point!
A movie each year is not a good idea, because it could be bad quality wise. But a new one each 2 years is.
As long Toriyama is motivated and this sells, they have my approval.
A movie per year? Oh boy, we really should expect a New 52 type of retcon soon.
What brought you to that conclusion?
The older AT gets the worse his plotholes get. He is getting rid of SSG form and instead giving Goku and Vegeta(if Vegeta new "transformation" makes him look like) Mystic form that belonged to Gohan(hence why he goes SS in this movie).
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:31 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Translation: Akira Toriyama created Freeza with the intention of him being more like Ayres' portrayal of the character. In other words, the aristocratic and sophisticated tone is how Freeza is meant to be portrayed (sadism included).

Linda Young's Freeza is not at all like this. That doesn't mean anyone is wrong to like her more, but she is not what Toriyama envisioned when he made this character. Plain and simple. >.>
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Post by Captain Space » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:36 pm

GoldLiger wrote:
The older AT gets the worse his plotholes get. He is getting rid of SSG form and instead giving Goku and Vegeta(if Vegeta new "transformation" makes him look like) Mystic form that belonged to Gohan(hence why he goes SS in this movie).
Not only is that almost certainly not what's happening, that wouldn't be a plothole if they explained it well, and having not seen the movie you can't know the explanation yet.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:52 pm

GoldLiger wrote:The older AT gets the worse his plotholes get. He is getting rid of SSG form and instead giving Goku and Vegeta(if Vegeta new "transformation" makes him look like) Mystic form that belonged to Gohan(hence why he goes SS in this movie).
Plothole =/= Recton. If that is what you're thinking.

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:53 pm

With a little over two weeks remaining until the Premiere, I'm so excited!. I loved BoG, and Freeza returning is pure genius, I know it's more than likely for the benefit of Vegeta - only rumoured of course.
I am delighted that Toriyama Sensei seems to have rekindled his love for Dragon Ball once more, and this can only be a good thing - yes he does forget a lot of details, but I'm sure Toei are able to remind him.

I do believe Goku will have a big payoff in this movie, as to what, I'm not sure. One thing that is for sure is that there's going to be a lot of talking points in here in two week's time.
If Julian can get himself a ticket, I hope he enjoys the movie, and I look forward to him sharing some details of whatever he is able to remember.

I think it's awesome to see Roshi back fighting with the Z warriors - Tien and Yamcha deserve a win too.

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Post by Kakarot9001 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:06 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:That's fine. What's wrong is calling Linda Youngs take accurate to Freeza's character. That is the problem people are having. We don't care if you like her more. We do care though if that performances is called accurate for the character of Freeza. That's factually the truth. I've already stated I like character voices like Kaio/King Kai which do not portray the character correctly. I admit Sean does not portray Kaio/King Kai like he should be portrayed. I like Kyle Hebert as the narrator even though in Z his tone was misused as some Monster Truck Jam voice.

Problem is you can't admit to liking something that is flat out wrong when it comes to character. I can admit to liking something that incorrectly portrays a character. Why can't you? I could make a whole new thread for this topic where numerous people can post why Linda Youngs portrayal of the character was completely unfitting for the role, and you'd probably still say it's completely accurate. We're arguing character accuracy, not just who's voice is more appealing.
Well I find her good as Freeza eng voice not saying that Ayres is bad, I just think that Linda is better than him, but okay... You don't see how I see, there is nothing that will change that for now.
Well, looks like we found something to agree, I didn't like King Kai dub and Kyle Hebert as the narrator too did they changed in Kai?

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Post by Captain Space » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:08 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:With a little over two weeks remaining until the Premiere, I'm so excited!. I loved BoG, and Freeza returning is pure genius, I know it's more than likely for the benefit of Vegeta - only rumoured of course.
I am delighted that Toriyama Sensei seems to have rekindled his love for Dragon Ball once more, and this can only be a good thing - yes he does forget a lot of details, but I'm sure Toei are able to remind him.

I do believe Goku will have a big payoff in this movie, as to what, I'm not sure. One thing that is for sure is that there's going to be a lot of talking points in here in two week's time.
If Julian can get himself a ticket, I hope he enjoys the movie, and I look forward to him sharing some details of whatever he is able to remember.

I think it's awesome to see Roshi back fighting with the Z warriors - Tenshinhan and Yamcha deserve a win too.

This. All of this.

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Post by Captain Space » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:08 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:That's fine. What's wrong is calling Linda Youngs take accurate to Freeza's character. That is the problem people are having. We don't care if you like her more. We do care though if that performances is called accurate for the character of Freeza. That's factually the truth. I've already stated I like character voices like Kaio/King Kai which do not portray the character correctly. I admit Sean does not portray Kaio/King Kai like he should be portrayed. I like Kyle Hebert as the narrator even though in Z his tone was misused as some Monster Truck Jam voice.

Problem is you can't admit to liking something that is flat out wrong when it comes to character. I can admit to liking something that incorrectly portrays a character. Why can't you? I could make a whole new thread for this topic where numerous people can post why Linda Youngs portrayal of the character was completely unfitting for the role, and you'd probably still say it's completely accurate. We're arguing character accuracy, not just who's voice is more appealing.
Well I find her good as Freeza eng voice not saying that Ayres is bad, I just think that Linda is better than him, but okay... You don't see how I see, there is nothing that will change that for now.
Well, looks like we found something to agree, I didn't like King Kai dub and Kyle Hebert as the narrator too did they changed in Kai?
The thing is you keep countering by saying you like Linda Young and they keep saying that's fine and that's not their issue.
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Post by SSJGFrieza » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:14 pm

Ayres sounds like an English Eunuch.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:18 pm

Kakarot9001 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:That's fine. What's wrong is calling Linda Youngs take accurate to Freeza's character. That is the problem people are having. We don't care if you like her more. We do care though if that performances is called accurate for the character of Freeza. That's factually the truth. I've already stated I like character voices like Kaio/King Kai which do not portray the character correctly. I admit Sean does not portray Kaio/King Kai like he should be portrayed. I like Kyle Hebert as the narrator even though in Z his tone was misused as some Monster Truck Jam voice.

Problem is you can't admit to liking something that is flat out wrong when it comes to character. I can admit to liking something that incorrectly portrays a character. Why can't you? I could make a whole new thread for this topic where numerous people can post why Linda Youngs portrayal of the character was completely unfitting for the role, and you'd probably still say it's completely accurate. We're arguing character accuracy, not just who's voice is more appealing.
Well I find her good as Freeza eng voice not saying that Ayres is bad, I just think that Linda is better than him, but okay... You don't see how I see, there is nothing that will change that for now.
Well, looks like we found something to agree, I didn't like King Kai dub and Kyle Hebert as the narrator too did they changed in Kai?
You keep dodging the point. Ayres is more accurate to Toriyama's vision of Freeza. That's the point you seem to deny. You can say you like Linda more, but you can't say she fits Freeza's character better when that's factually wrong. Hiding behind the opinion excuse doesn't work when the opinion goes against facts. The fact isn't who's voice is more appealing, but who fits the character properly. Linda factually does not fit the character. She can be your preferred voice, but it's straight up bullshit to say she portrays Freeza's character better than Ayres,
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:24 pm

You two keep repeating yourselves. lol.
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Post by GoldLiger » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:26 pm

Captain Space wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:
The older AT gets the worse his plotholes get. He is getting rid of SSG form and instead giving Goku and Vegeta(if Vegeta new "transformation" makes him look like) Mystic form that belonged to Gohan(hence why he goes SS in this movie).
Not only is that almost certainly not what's happening, that wouldn't be a plothole if they explained it well, and having not seen the movie you can't know the explanation yet.
Then prepared to be disappointed when SSG no longer appears at all in this new movie.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:27 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:You two keep repeating yourselves. lol.
I swear it's another one of those "It can't be bad if I like it" things. When was it wrong to like something that's is considered bad when it comes to media?
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Post by Ajay » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:27 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:You two keep repeating yourselves. lol.
At the risk of sounding rude, it's because Kakarot9001's English doesn't seem to be good enough to fully understand the point everyone is making. It happened previously in an engagement I had with him so I just let it be.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:28 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:You two keep repeating yourselves. lol.
At the risk of sounding rude, it's because Kakarot9001's English doesn't seem to be good enough to fully understand the point everyone is making. It happened previously in an engagement I had with him so I just let it be.
I'll take your word for it.
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Post by Dyno » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:30 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:You two keep repeating yourselves. lol.
When it is not about "power level/canon" (which the latter I solved), it is "Young vs Ayres" for many pages. Well, can't blame anyone. Aside the blog, we don't get anything new to discuss.
AjayLikesGaming wrote:it's because Kakarot9001's English doesn't seem to be good enough to fully understand the point everyone is making. It happened previously in an engagement I had with him so I just let it be.
And when you try to correct/explain (to) him, he gets mad. :lol:
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