The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by goku the krump dancer » Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:21 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:base Vegetto (Goku (arrival on Namek) + Vegeta (vs. Recoome)) vs. 50% Freeza
90k times 35k-ish equals roughly 3 billion, 150 million... And that's not counting a 10x Kaioken.. Vegetto pats F on the back and his skeleton falls out.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:04 am

SSJ Goten and Trunks vs. Cell Games SSJ Vegeta and Future Trunks

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:50 am

The kids lose. I think they're strong, but not on that level.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:21 am

The kids win. Vegeta's skill advantage won't be enough to save them both from the kids' noticeable power advantage.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:50 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:SSJ Goten and Trunks vs. Cell Games SSJ Vegeta and Future Trunks
Right now I think the match up is even, so I guess Vegeta would beat one of them and then help Trunks beat the other. I feel I may have rated them too low in respect to the Boo arc adults, though.
The gap would have widened after the Cell Games, where Tenshinhan continued to train while Yamcha didn't. Evidently, Krillin still has a lead over both of them even by the time of Battle of Gods, despite doing very minimal training since Cell.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:40 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:SSJ Goten and Trunks vs. Cell Games SSJ Vegeta and Future Trunks
Goten and Trunks win.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:54 am

Here is a few from me:

- Buutenks vs Base Gogeta (GT)
- SSJ Goten vs Pan (GT)
- Yamcha (Cell arc) vs Monster Zarbon
- Omega Shenron vs SS4 Vegetto (Buu arc)
- Ultra Trunks vs Dabura
- Broly vs Kamiccolo (Cell Games arc)

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:28 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Here is a few from me:

- Buutenks vs Base Gogeta (GT)
Gogeta unfuses and let's Goku one shot him.
- SSJ Goten vs Pan (GT)
Is this GT Goten? Either way Pan probably stomps.
- Yamcha (Cell arc) vs Monster Zarbon
Yamcha.
- Omega Shenron vs SS4 Vegetto (Buu arc)
I dunno, probably Omega Shenron
- Ultra Trunks vs Dabura
Dabra one shots.
- Broly vs Kamiccolo (Cell Games arc)
Movie LSSJ Broly? I have him equal to Cell (@ Goku), while I have Piccolo closing in on 2nd Stage Cell. Broly crushes his skull.

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Post by Diotor » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:34 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Here is a few from me:

- Buutenks vs Base Gogeta (GT)
- SSJ Goten vs Pan (GT)
- Yamcha (Cell arc) vs Monster Zarbon
- Omega Shenron vs SS4 Vegetto (Buu arc)
- Ultra Trunks vs Dabura
- Broly vs Kamiccolo (Cell Games arc)
1. I've got this down as Buutenks, but not if Gogeta transforms to SSJ. That'd swing the fight in his favour.

2. SSJ Goten. Nothing shows Pan being anywhere near SSJ levels.

3. I'd assume the leaps Yamcha made with Kaio and then once again for the Androids would be easily enough to have him surpass Zarbon's absolute limit of just under 40,000.

4. GT, not a Scooby. Too many conflicting levels.

5. Ultra Trunks you mean USSJ? I'd have that to Dabra as he's certainly more powerful than Cell and Trunks couldn't handle him.

6. Which Brolly?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:43 pm

To clarify:

Movie 10 Broly LSSJ vs Kamiccolo (Cell Games arc)

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Post by singsing » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:44 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:To clarify:

Movie 10 Broly LSSJ vs Kamiccolo (Cell Games arc)
y u hate piccolo? :(

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:55 pm

singsing wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:To clarify:

Movie 10 Broly LSSJ vs Kamiccolo (Cell Games arc)
y u hate piccolo? :(
What? He can put up a fight :P

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:14 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:To clarify:

Movie 10 Broly LSSJ vs Kamiccolo (Cell Games arc)
Kamiccolo ventilates Broly's stomach with a well placed Makankosappo.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Diotor » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:06 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:To clarify:

Movie 10 Broly LSSJ vs Kamiccolo (Cell Games arc)
Yeah, that's not even close. Brolly absolute wrecks Kamiccolo.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:23 pm

singsing wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:To clarify:

Movie 10 Broly LSSJ vs Kamiccolo (Cell Games arc)
y u hate piccolo? :(
This. SSJ2 Adult Gohan can only put up a minor fight against Movie 10 Broly. Piccolo dies horribly.
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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:08 pm

Joss Whedon universe Avengers Vs Babas fighters including Gohan.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:20 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Joss Whedon universe Avengers Vs Babas fighters including Gohan.
Hulk stomps everyone.

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Post by rereboy » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:22 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Joss Whedon universe Avengers Vs Babas fighters including Gohan.
Hulk stomps everyone.
I don't know... Gohan was probably as strong as Roshi at that point and had the Kamehameha... Which means that he could probably take out mountains or even the moon if he went full out. The Hulk has been beaten before with less than that.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:29 pm

Future Gohan (1 arm, SSJ 2) vs. Android 18 (present). If he stomps make it 17.

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Post by Super SaiyaJon » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:55 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Here is a few from me:

- Buutenks vs Base Gogeta (GT)
- SSJ Goten vs Pan (GT)
- Yamcha (Cell arc) vs Monster Zarbon
- Omega Shenron vs SS4 Vegetto (Buu arc)
- Ultra Trunks vs Dabura
- Broly vs Kamiccolo (Cell Games arc)
1. Definately Buutenks. SSJ Gogeta stomps though.

2. Goten wins easily. Pan isn't strong... like... at all. (IMO)

3. Eh. Probably Yamcha. He can't possibly be THAT weak.

4. This is very hard to tell. I'm inclined to say Vegetto though because SSJ x80 equals SSJ4

5. Dabura stomps. Dabura ~ Cell, USSJ Trunks << Cell

6. Unfortunately, Broly brutally destroys.

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SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Future Gohan (1 arm, SSJ 2) vs. Android 18 (present). If he stomps make it 17.
That one arm won't make a difference. SSJ2's power would stomp 18. He would still beat 17 too. The tag team miiiight be too much for him.
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