Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Post by sangofe » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:49 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Wowzers, the 2013 Toriko movie received a better director and more battle scene animators. I don't think Oonishi did any action cuts for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods. "First Dragon Ball movie in seventeen years what?"
But I read the Toriko movie failed miserably?

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:11 pm

I also read the Toriko movie didn't do well earnings-wise. Reasons I can think for it getting a better budget were that it's an ongoing series where db is not, and also that Toei had been pushing really hard to try and make Toriko the next big thing.
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:32 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:Wowzers, the 2013 Toriko movie received a better director and more battle scene animators. I don't think Oonishi did any action cuts for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods. "First Dragon Ball movie in seventeen years what?"
But I read the Toriko movie failed miserably?
That wouldn't stop the movie from having more talent before it is even released. It looks like the Blu-ray only sold 485 units.
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Post by Michelle91 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:54 am

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Hellspawn28 wrote:Sci-Fi Japan release production notes on BOG.

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2013 ... ion-notes/
Yes, that is indeed a link to that page. And it's relevant because...?
Well this is the thread pertaining to any discussion on that movie..
I posted it to see if anyone was interested since the large images that they got from Toei along with Toei's production notes which hadn't been publicly released before in English. I was unsure if this site already had the info already posted. I was surprise to get a PM from Keith Aiken on another form that I go on since he told me that Sci-Fi Japan got a lot of traffic from Kanzenshuu the other day. He was surprise to see a big site that is pretty relevant for a forum devoted to only DBZ discussions.
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Post by Vegard Aune » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:25 am

Chuquita wrote:...and also that Toei had been pushing really hard to try and make Toriko the next big thing.
Oh god have they ever. Though if the movie's performance really was as weak as you guys say it was, I can't imagine they've been very successful at that. And honestly I really wish they'd just stop. If only because the yearly crossovers between Toriko and One Piece are getting to be more of an annoyance than anything else. Heck, the only reason I even bothered watching the last one was because it was also a DB-crossover, making it two franchises I enjoy crossing over with one that I couldn't care less about.

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Post by kei17 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:13 am

sangofe wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Wowzers, the 2013 Toriko movie received a better director and more battle scene animators. I don't think Oonishi did any action cuts for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods. "First Dragon Ball movie in seventeen years what?"
But I read the Toriko movie failed miserably?
The box office was 180 million yen, which is only 6 % of that of BoG.

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Post by Blade » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:38 am

Chuquita wrote:Toei had been pushing really hard to try and make Toriko the next big thing.
I'd have hoped that they would have got the idea now that it's never going to be the cash-cow that they wanted it to be. Apart from OK TV ratings (which come largely through the benefit of being bundled with One Piece in the Dream 9 slot) it doesn't look like it will ever amount to anything more.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:56 pm

That's what has bothered me about Toriko from the start too. It seemed like it came out of nowhere and was being heralded as the next big thing for Shonen Jump, and yet...you actually had to look to find people talking about it. It just didn't gel with me. I'm checking into the manga now myself so I can make my own judgement on it though.
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Post by oldboy88 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:20 pm

if there are fans of toriko I'm sorry for them becouse this bad figures,
but I've buyed some volumes of the manga, and i dont get it,
toriko is so uninspired and pinched, it is like someone had thought of a formula for the "perfect shonen" manga ... dragonball, one piece, hokuto no ken, pokemon ...
but there is no soul in this product ... indeed, i tried very hard to get into the manga, no chance.

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Post by WittyUsername » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:02 pm

So is there any word on Funimation dubbing this movie yet?

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:05 pm

WittyUsername wrote:So is there any word on Funimation dubbing this movie yet?
Nope, nothing.

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Post by Retan » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:58 pm

So is it true that the Japanese anime & manga fans are getting tired of action and characters always trying to become stronger, I thought I read that somewhere probably on this forum and thread? :) If true maybe that's why BoG went in more of a humorous rout, and why Toriko (Haven't seen or read any of the anime or manga) is failing?

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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:08 pm

Retan wrote:So is it true that the Japanese anime & manga fans are getting tired of action and characters always trying to become stronger, I thought I read that somewhere probably on this forum and thread? :) If true maybe that's why BoG went in more of a humorous rout, and why Toriko (Haven't seen or read any of the anime or manga) is failing?
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Post by Michelle91 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:11 pm

WittyUsername wrote:So is there any word on Funimation dubbing this movie yet?
If they then the front page would have news for it by now. I'm betting we will hear something before the end of the year.
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Post by GS7X7 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:01 pm

Retan wrote:So is it true that the Japanese anime & manga fans are getting tired of action and characters always trying to become stronger, I thought I read that somewhere probably on this forum and thread? :) If true maybe that's why BoG went in more of a humorous rout, and why Toriko (Haven't seen or read any of the anime or manga) is failing?
One Piece isn't failing. Sure it has humor, but it has all the rest.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Retan » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:10 pm

GS7X7 wrote:
Retan wrote:So is it true that the Japanese anime & manga fans are getting tired of action and characters always trying to become stronger, I thought I read that somewhere probably on this forum and thread? :) If true maybe that's why BoG went in more of a humorous rout, and why Toriko (Haven't seen or read any of the anime or manga) is failing?
One Piece isn't failing. Sure it has humor, but it has all the rest.

Good to know! :)

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Post by rereboy » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:38 am

Retan wrote:So is it true that the Japanese anime & manga fans are getting tired of action and characters always trying to become stronger, I thought I read that somewhere probably on this forum and thread? :) If true maybe that's why BoG went in more of a humorous rout, and why Toriko (Haven't seen or read any of the anime or manga) is failing?
Toriko's anime sucks. The manga is awesome, I like it very much, but the anime is bad. That's why it fails while the Toriko manga sells very well. In fact, Toriko's manga was the 13th best manga series in terms of sales in Japan in 2013 with almost 3 million sales: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... eries/2013

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Post by Saiga » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:16 am

I'm glad to hear the manga isn't suffering like the anime is. It's kind of sad that Toei are pushing it so hard when it looks like it just won't catch on.
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Post by Flame Dragon » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:27 am

Saiga wrote:I'm glad to hear the manga isn't suffering like the anime is. It's kind of sad that Toei are pushing it so hard when it looks like it just won't catch on.
You can't artificially create the "next big thing" by shoving it down on people's throats...
In fact, i find it pathetic and hope that they will realize that it won't work and stop.

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Post by rereboy » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:26 pm

Saiga wrote:I'm glad to hear the manga isn't suffering like the anime is. It's kind of sad that Toei are pushing it so hard when it looks like it just won't catch on.
Its their own fault. They use subpar animation and art and censor everything in the Toriko anime, besides choosing a unappealing color palette for it.

Before Toei got their hands on Toriko another studio made an Toriko anime OVA of the first few chapters... and its SOOOOO much better than Toei that its not even funny. Toriko could have been a great anime, but not in Toei's hands.

These are clips of the OVA (the second one is a amv that uses footage from the OVA): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-l-g5_AyIY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaGBjHpHFpY

This is a clip of episode 1 of Toriko by Toei (the equivalent part starts at 14:50): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5UDRF9l4bc

Notice how the colors are bright to the point that they are unpleasant and kind of more childish, how the animation and art is worse (IMO at least), how everything is censored... And in later episodes its even worse.

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