"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[namekiansaiyan]

I don't like to count the first 2 arcs as they are based on the movies.

But they're still arcs that could've been changed a bit to give Gohan & Piccolo bigger roles but they didn't.

If anything, their roles were reduced even further cause at least in the BOG movie Beerus took out Gohan by kicking him in the stomach unlike the arc where he was taken out by getting hit with Buu.

The tournament arc could've given Gohan something to do on earth while everyone was away but it didn't, it didn't even show him doing just normal activities.

That is why I think Gohan is finished as he is not involved in this arc at all and it will be at least 12 episodes without Gohan.

[kinisking]

I don't like to count the first 2 arcs as they are based on the movies.

But they're still arcs that could've been changed a bit to give Gohan & Piccolo bigger roles but they didn't.

If anything, their roles were reduced even further cause at least in the BOG movie Beerus took out Gohan by kicking him in the stomach unlike the arc where he was taken out by getting hit with Buu.

The tournament arc could've given Gohan something to do on earth while everyone was away but it didn't, it didn't even show him doing just normal activities.

Lol are you really ignoring the fact that gohan had a much bigger role in ROF? There was character development, he beat Tagoma, he was the only one to call goku with his power. Besides this arc was like what 12 eps? It really doesn't seem to be a major arc. It makes sense for gohan to be gone so long, this tournament is basically just for fun. Why would he participate? The second they'res an actual villian, gohan will be there and ready to fight

[namekiansaiyan]

I don't like to count the first 2 arcs as they are based on the movies.

But they're still arcs that could've been changed a bit to give Gohan & Piccolo bigger roles but they didn't.

If anything, their roles were reduced even further cause at least in the BOG movie Beerus took out Gohan by kicking him in the stomach unlike the arc where he was taken out by getting hit with Buu.

The tournament arc could've given Gohan something to do on earth while everyone was away but it didn't, it didn't even show him doing just normal activities.

Lol are you really ignoring the fact that gohan had a much bigger role in ROF? There was character development, he beat Tagoma, he was the only one to call goku with his power. Besides this arc was like what 12 eps? It really doesn't seem to be a major arc. It makes sense for gohan to be gone so long, this tournament is basically just for fun. Why would he participate? The second they'res an actual villian, gohan will be there and ready to fight

Goham won't be ready fight, If he is not the strongest person there he is useless.

[Chuquita]

Since Piccolo babysat Pan at the start of the F arc, maybe he's the one babysitting her here too? (With Gokû arriving halfway though the episode and messing everything up.)

I like the idea of it being a "The Driving Episode: Part 2".

[kinisking]

Goham won't be ready fight, If he is not the strongest person there he is useless.

Lol I guess that applies to everyone lmao. That's like saying his character was useless outside of ss2 and Mystic which just isn't true. He's obviously not going to kill the main villian but he'll definitely help. He'll also definitely be more helpful than piccolo

[Kagari]

Goham won't be ready fight, If he is not the strongest person there he is useless.

What? This makes no sense at all.

[pacz360]

I don't like to count the first 2 arcs as they are based on the movies.

But they're still arcs that could've been changed a bit to give Gohan & Piccolo bigger roles but they didn't.

If anything, their roles were reduced even further cause at least in the BOG movie Beerus took out Gohan by kicking him in the stomach unlike the arc where he was taken out by getting hit with Buu.

The tournament arc could've given Gohan something to do on earth while everyone was away but it didn't, it didn't even show him doing just normal activities.

Lol are you really ignoring the fact that gohan had a much bigger role in ROF? There was character development, he beat Tagoma, he was the only one to call goku with his power. Besides this arc was like what 12 eps? It really doesn't seem to be a major arc. It makes sense for gohan to be gone so long, this tournament is basically just for fun. Why would he participate? The second they'res an actual villian, gohan will be there and ready to fight

What character development? What make you think it's going to be relevent in any future whatsoever this shit practically forced development considering what happen with the buu saga.

[kinisking]

Goham won't be ready fight, If he is not the strongest person there he is useless.

What? This makes no sense at all.

Yeah, gohan isn't his saiyan saga self anymore. He knows how to carry himself. People like to say his strength is the only reason why he can fight, but he's pretty skilled too. If the yo son goku and his friends special is canon, then that and videl prove how he's a very good teacher. Then you have him in ROF hitting vital points. I think now that he's an adult and no longer a kid is a perfect time to make use of his smarts and make him much more tactical. Would make sense for the character to develop on that way.

And to pacz gohan has never trained in complete peace time before. It makes sense for it to be relevant because he cares about his family and is now willing to get stronger. There was no reason to make gohan that much weaker in ROF (considering even at Mystic he wouldn't have done much better than freeza) unless they were building up to something

[namekiansaiyan]

Gohan won't be ready fight, If he is not the strongest person there he is useless.

Lol I guess that applies to everyone lmao. That's like saying his character was useless outside of ss2 and Mystic which just isn't true. He's obviously not going to kill the main villian but he'll definitely help. He'll also definitely be more helpful than piccolo

Piccolo will be more helpful Goku and Vegeta have strength, Buu has abilities and Strength, Tien has the Tri-beam, Piccolo has skill and strategy, Goten and Trunks can do fusion. Gohan does not bring anything apart from being useless, to me he does not currently have any great fighting power, skill, strategy or unique abilities. As usual Piccolo will be protecting him. Going by that little training session, it looked like Piccolo was dominating Gohan.

I just feel that Gohan fans should be more worried than Piccolo fans as Toriyama likes to have Piccolo involved in some form whereas with Gohan he does not as proven by this arc.

[sintzu]

Lol are you really ignoring the fact that gohan had a much bigger role in ROF?

There was character development.

He beat Tagoma.

He was the only one to call goku with his power.

Besides this arc was like what 12 eps? It really doesn't seem to be a major arc.

It makes sense for gohan to be gone so long, this tournament is basically just for fun. Why would he participate?

The second they'res an actual villian, gohan will be there and ready to fight

What did he do that was bigger then what he did in the movie ? the only extra thing he did was make Freeza look more evil by being tortured and nearly killed by him.

That remains to be seen.

In the movie he beat Shisami so it's the same thing cause he didn't take long to do it.

That was an awesome scene so I'll give you that.

It was major for us Vegeta fans cause it's the 1st time he didn't get the crap beaten out of him by an arc's main villain, instead he was the one who got the final battle while Goku was the one who lost and it was against Freeza of all villains which made it 10 times better.

Why not have him defend earth against some random villain while everyone was gone to show how stronger he'd gotten ? it didn't have to be 10 episodes long but 1 or 2 would've been more then enough.

I really hope so, I hope we get the badass who beat Cell or the more badass who made Super Buu look like nothing but I don't think we will.

[Kagari]

Gohan won't be ready fight, If he is not the strongest person there he is useless.

Lol I guess that applies to everyone lmao. That's like saying his character was useless outside of ss2 and Mystic which just isn't true. He's obviously not going to kill the main villian but he'll definitely help. He'll also definitely be more helpful than piccolo

Piccolo will be more helpful Goku and Vegeta have strength, Buu has abilities and Strength, Tien has the Tri-beam, Piccolo has skill and strategy, Goten and Trunks can do fusion. Gohan does not bring anything apart from being useless, to me he does not currently have any great fighting power, skill, strategy or unique abilities. As usual Piccolo will be protecting him. Going by that little training session, it looked like Piccolo was dominating Gohan.

I just feel that Gohan fans should be more worried than Piccolo fans as Toriyama likes to have Piccolo involved in some form whereas with Gohan he does not as proven by this arc.

But he's still the third strongest Z fighter right now. That's hardly "useless."

[VegettoEX]

Let's please keep the strength debates to the appropriate threads - thank you!

[dbzfan7]

People please, we can all see Gohan fall on his face again later. There's always time for a good Gohan flogging in Super .

[LightBing]

I hope these apparent filler like episodes don't affect the flow of the show. Seems like the current arc is very much a set-up for things to come. Which I assume would have immediate effect. Like the Saiyan Arc advancing to the Namek arc.

Let's wait and see...

[namekiansaiyan]

Goham won't be ready fight, If he is not the strongest person there he is useless.

What? This makes no sense at all.

Yeah, gohan isn't his saiyan saga self anymore. He knows how to carry himself. People like to say his strength is the only reason why he can fight, but he's pretty skilled too. If the yo son goku and his friends special is canon, then that and videl prove how he's a very good teacher. Then you have him in ROF hitting vital points. I think now that he's an adult and no longer a kid is a perfect time to make use of his smarts and make him much more tactical. Would make sense for the character to develop on that way.

And to pacz gohan has never trained in complete peace time before. It makes sense for it to be relevant because he cares about his family and is now willing to get stronger. There was no reason to make gohan that much weaker in ROF (considering even at Mystic he wouldn't have done much better than freeza) unless they were building up to something

Dont you knw that Piccolo is the strategist of universe 7 so Piccolo has the smarts section covered so Gohan is not nèeded for that.

[Sandubadear]

Damn, Arale?

It's cool because I finished reading her a few weeks ago.

What if copy-Vegeta is like this?:

Spoiler:

[Chuquita]

Z did have Fake Namek (and other extracurricular episodes). I'm good with Super filler. It also buys time for the higher skilled animators for later battle episodes hopefully.

Also, Copy Vegeta. I cannot express how fun of a teaser the phase Copy Vegeta is to me. XD

[kinisking]

Dont you knw that Piccolo is the strategist of universe 7 so Piccolo has the smarts section covered so Gohan is not nèeded for that.

Exactly. And who's training under piccolo? Gohan. Would make perfect sense for gohan to pick up some of that strategy. Besides Piccolo is too weak for his strategies to matter. I don't think his strategies have ever been effective

[Lujin_16]

i think the last episode title has something do to with Monaka maybe he has copied Vegeta and the tournament is not over

[Nejishiki]

Oh yeah, somehow I didn't even think about how much they'd have aged by now...hmm. Now that I think about it, they'd probably avoid showing us anyone else from Slump just to avoid making that decision, though I could see them taking either route if we did see them. Or even a half-and-half one, where we have slightly older (though probably not as much so as they would really be) versions of Taro and some of the other kids, but Senbei and wife and other adults seem not to have aged (ala Bulma's parents), and Turbo is still a floating psychic baby because reasons.

I'm very behind on this response and I'm not sure if it was already addressed, but Toriyama HAS designed older appearances for the Dr. Slump cast before. It's in the second volume if my memory isn't failing me.