"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[TekTheNinja]

Dont you knw that Piccolo is the strategist of universe 7 so Piccolo has the smarts section covered so Gohan is not nèeded for that.

Exactly. And who's training under piccolo? Gohan. Would make perfect sense for gohan to pick up some of that strategy. Besides Piccolo is too weak for his strategies to matter. I don't think his strategies have ever been effective

Why are you two arguing? Don't you realize you both want the same thing? For other Z fighters to be relevant? You should be on the same side here, bros.

[namekiansaiyan]

Dont you knw that Piccolo is Didn'tstrategist of universe 7 so Piccolo has the smarts section covered so Gohan is not nèeded for that.

Exactly. And who's training under piccolo? Gohan. Would make perfect sense for gohan to pick up some of that strategy. Besides Piccolo is too weak for his strategies to matter. I don't think his strategies have ever been effective

Gohan currently is not that much stronger than Piccolo if at all. Didn't Piccolo's stategy work in this tournament. Both Gohan amd Piccolo are weak compared to Goku and Vegeta anyway.

[LightBing]

Z did have Fake Namek (and other extracurricular episodes). I'm good with Super filler. It also buys time for the higher skilled animators for later battle episodes hopefully.

Also, Copy Vegeta. I cannot express how fun of a teaser the phase Copy Vegeta is to me. XD

Super filler has been pretty good, I think only the alien that came to fight Mr.Satan was a miss.

Z had some very bad filler. The filler between the end of the Saiyan Arc and the Namek Arc was passable, but it still damaged the flow of the show. Everyone was dead, Goku was crippled and the shadow of Vegeta lurked. The filler distracted us from this, reduced the weight the show was carrying at the time, for some shenanigans in space.

I don't want Hit to make a bombastic revelation or Cabba to invite everybody to Salad and the characters spend 4 or 5 episodes, acting like anything happened.

Regarding Copy Vegeta, with the possibility of the return of the Choushinsui I could see a Vegeta mini arc, were he attempts to discover the training Goku did.

So: asking advice of Master Roshi, being trolled by Karin while asking for the water, Mr.Popo making a copy of him from his hair. Maybe visit Kaio and being forced to come up with some puns.
How likely is this?

[namekiansaiyan]

Dont you knw that Piccolo is the strategist of universe 7 so Piccolo has the smarts section covered so Gohan is not nèeded for that.

Exactly. And who's training under piccolo? Gohan. Would make perfect sense for gohan to pick up some of that strategy. Besides Piccolo is too weak for his strategies to matter. I don't think his strategies have ever been effective

Why are you two arguing? Don't you realize you both want the same thing? For other Z fighters to be relevant? You should be on the same side here, bros.

We are aguing about who is more useful out of Piccolo and Gohan and who is more likely to be useful in the future.

[TekTheNinja]

We are aguing about who is more useful out of Piccolo and Gohan and who is more likely in the future.

Exactly. That's the thing though; you should both know by now that they're pretty much equally useless, and don't seem to have much of a future, and THAT is the problem.

[sintzu]

So: asking advice of Master Roshi, being trolled by Karin while asking for the water, Mr.Popo making a copy of him from his hair. Maybe visit Kaio and being forced to come up with some puns.
How likely is this?

If it's the only thing he can do to catch up to Goku then he'll do it.

[Retan]

I kinda confused, and I know it's confirmed but don't they usually anounce the titles around the 9th, also why do they need filler type episodes for super. But I am excited about Arale returning.

[TekTheNinja]

I just thought about the idea of SSGSS Goku in his EoZ/GT outfit. It would be neat. His gi would match his hair. :P

[kinisking]

Dont you knw that Piccolo is Didn'tstrategist of universe 7 so Piccolo has the smarts section covered so Gohan is not nèeded for that.

Exactly. And who's training under piccolo? Gohan. Would make perfect sense for gohan to pick up some of that strategy. Besides Piccolo is too weak for his strategies to matter. I don't think his strategies have ever been effective

Gohan currently is not that much stronger than Piccolo if at all. Didn't Piccolo's stategy work in this tournament. Both Gohan amd Piccolo are weak compared to Goku and Vegeta anyway.

This is going to be my last comment on this. Gohan in base trains with piccolo. I think that's enough to show that gohan is still well ahead of him, even if you don't count how much better he did against Tagoma. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see piccolo and gohan BOTH become relevant. I'm just tired of you unnecessarily try to drag his name through the mud

[alakazam^]

In Mayumi Tanaka's picture we have:

Arale, Mai, Gohan, Videl/Pan, Bulma, Kuririn and Pilaf

Assuming they aren't assigned new roles, Pilaf gang is back! So... somehow them, Arale and Gohan's family get involved in something? That might be that episode's incomplete cast though, since the narrator would have been present as well.

Shigeru Chiba did some voices in Dr. Slump but Eiko Yamada didn't so it probably is safe to say they won't appear as Penguin Village residents.

[sintzu]

Why do they need filler type episodes for super.

We don't mean filler in the same way we do when talking about original episodes in manga based anime, we mean they're not part of Super's main plots.

For example, episodes 15 didn't have anything to do with the BOG or RF arcs so it was a filler episode.

If the Arale episode has nothing to do with the current or next arc then it'll be considered a filler episode.

[namekiansaiyan]

We are aguing about who is more useful out of Piccolo and Gohan and who is more likely in the future.

Exactly. That's the thing though; you should both know by now that they're pretty much equally useless, and don't seem to have much of a future, and THAT is the problem.

I feel Piccolo has a future as the most important person other than Vegeta and Goku, I also think Goten and Trunks are probably above Gohan in terms of relevancy based on what Toriyama said about Gohan.

I know every other character apart from Goku amd Vegeta needs to be more relevant than they are now as I have been going on about it quite a bit.

This is going to be my last comment on this. Gohan in base trains with piccolo. I think that's enough to show that gohan is still well ahead of him, even if you don't count how much better he did against Tagoma. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see piccolo and gohan BOTH become relevant. I'm just tired of you unnecessarily try to drag his name through the mud

Good, Gohan is the most boring character anyway.

[Araki]

What if this "copy Vegeta" thing is about Cabba training?

Assuming Super won't have a 7-episode arc, it's safe to say it'll pass the 52 episodes we already knew were coming. This might appease some people.

Toriyama confirming a new story after the tournament basically confirmed that there wil be more than 52.

We knew already that the show wouldn't have exactly 52 episodes. It it ended in this cour, it would finish at 49 episodes, which seems impossible now. The series can't just end out of season, like in mid-July or August, that's not how it works these days. So it's gonna run, at the very least, up to 62 or so.

Not to mention the time for a replacement to be announced is running out, if they intended to have a new show in July. Super is definitely running longer than one year.

[sintzu]

I feel Piccolo has a future as the most important person other than Vegeta and Goku.

I also think Goten and Trunks are probably above Gohan in terms of relevancy based on what Toriyama said about Gohan.

That importance won't mean much if all he does is watch them fight.

It doesn't matter what he said, as of now all 3 of them are equally useless.

[namekiansaiyan]

I feel Piccolo has a future as the most important person other than Vegeta and Goku.

I also think Goten and Trunks are probably above Gohan in terms of relevancy based on what Toriyama said about Gohan.

That importance won't mean much if all he does is watch them fight.

It doesn't matter what he said, as of now all 3 of them are equally useless.

I have a feeling Piccolo does something next episode when he collects Goku because he is complaining about something.

[Pannaliciour]

Z did have Fake Namek (and other extracurricular episodes). I'm good with Super filler. It also buys time for the higher skilled animators for later battle episodes hopefully.

Also, Copy Vegeta. I cannot express how fun of a teaser the phase Copy Vegeta is to me. XD

Super filler has been pretty good, I think only the alien that came to fight Mr.Satan was a miss.

Z had some very bad filler. The filler between the end of the Saiyan Arc and the Namek Arc was passable, but it still damaged the flow of the show. Everyone was dead, Goku was crippled and the shadow of Vegeta lurked. The filler distracted us from this, reduced the weight the show was carrying at the time, for some shenanigans in space.

I don't want Hit to make a bombastic revelation or Cabba to invite everybody to Salad and the characters spend 4 or 5 episodes, acting like anything happened.

Regarding Copy Vegeta, with the possibility of the return of the Choushinsui I could see a Vegeta mini arc, were he attempts to discover the training Goku did.

So: asking advice of Master Roshi, being trolled by Karin while asking for the water, Mr.Popo making a copy of him from his hair. Maybe visit Kaio and being forced to come up with some puns.
How likely is this?

Technically there is not such thing as filler in Super. Because Super doesn't follow the manga. (Correct me if I am.wrong)

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Why do they need filler type episodes for super.

We don't mean filler in the same way we do when talking about original episodes in manga based anime, we mean they're not part of Super's main plots.

For example, episodes 15 didn't have anything to do with the BOG or RF arcs so it was a filler episode.

If the Arale episode has nothing to do with the current or next arc then it'll be considered a filler episode.

Eh. I get the feeling what most fans mean by filler these days is that the episode doesn't specifically relate to people getting punched in the face or directly setting up the required actions for people to get punched in the face, because none of Super's episodes thus far really fit that alternate description of "filler" either. The content of some of these episodes may not further the plot in a way some portions of the fandom are interested in, but they do still further plots that have been setup. Episode 15 specifically continued the plotline Satan set in motion by believing he saved the world with his love and calling for a press conference the episode prior.

Too much emphasis on continuous action would ultimately hurt the series. Having downtime in a narrative is important. Whether you like said downtime is another story entirely.

[Kuririn Fan]

I want many more than 100 epsodes but obviously only if it does not stay as the Goku and Vegeta show.

It's been that way for the last 3 arcs so chances are that's how it'll continue to be moving foreword.

Goku became SS God and fought the decisive battle against Beerus in BoG, Goku killed Freeza in RoF and Goku is currently fightung Hit, the strongest warrior of Universe 6, and even in his base form did better than Vegeta.

[FortuneSSJ]

I just thought about the idea of SSGSS Goku in his EoZ/GT outfit. It would be neat. His gi would match his hair.

For his EOZ outfit, it would be too much blue. By far, not a good choice.

[namekiansaiyan]

I want many more than 100 epsodes but obviously only if it does not stay as the Goku and Vegeta show.

It's been that way for the last 3 arcs so chances are that's how it'll continue to be moving foreword.

Goku became SS God and fought the decisive battle against Beerus in BoG, Goku killed Freeza in RoF and Goku is currently fightung Hit, the strongest warrior of Universe 6, and even in his base form did better than Vegeta.

It is obvious that Toriyama is only giving Vegeta screen time because of his fanbase but in the end he always gets left behind Goku and it always hurts Vegeta fans a lot as Toriyama does not really like Vegeta. He is basically saying to Vegeta fans I will hype his character and in the end I will bring him down hard.